TROLLING We Need to Get Out of the B12

[Willona Woods]

We are 11-20 in the B12. We should move down to the AAC where we could compete for conference championships.

We will never recruit well enough to compete in the B12, and the travel is ridiculous.

 

[torontoeers]

Weak...at least make an effort.

 

[sammyk]

Wait a minute I think I said the same thing. But I do not think WVU wins the AAC this year. Memphis, Houston and Temple are all pretty good as is Navy, I think WVU is in the Mix but by no means is the AAC a cake walk . I think if you get WVU in the AAC it becomes a Power conference, plus you actually play someone who is not 1000 miles away

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

Sadly the AAC is not far behind the Big 12, this team would get steamrolled by Memphis and Houston, and would most definitely lose to Temple. Cincy, ECU, and Navy would be dog fights.

So don't act like we'd be faring much better in the American Conference.

 

[sammyk]

I think WVU would be in the Mix, right now they are a non factor in the Big 12 in AAC they would be more of a factor and in a few years could be the big dog in that conference.

 

[Willona Woods]

Sadly the AAC is not far behind the Big 12, this team would get steamrolled by Memphis and Houston, and would most definitely lose to Temple. Cincy, ECU, and Navy would be dog fights.

So don't act like we'd be faring much better in the American Conference.

Very true, but at least we would have a few games in our time zone.

 

[CE4WVU]

We are 11-20 in the B12. We should move down to the AAC where we could compete for conference championships.

We will never recruit well enough to compete in the B12, and the travel is ridiculous.

Hmmm... TCU was competing well in the MWC a handful of years ago and most years dominated... even winning against a tough Wisconsin team in 2011 to get the coveted Rose Bowl win. They are thriving in the Big 12 with Gary Patterson and staff at the helm. How do you make such an pathetic assessment when we have a coaching staff that's obviously not cutting it for this program and in this conference?

I prefer staying put and hoping that Lyons is smart enough to get a coach that will assemble a staff that actually cares about seeing a program like ours being in the upper half of a P-5 conference.

You want to see a program lose all credibility? Downgrade back to a joke conference like that while trying to figure out how we're going to pay the exit fee and deal with the GoR.

 

[mountiefan88]

LOL. WVU makes too much money being a punching bag. It is a bad fit. Most realize this. The fans' behavior over the past twenty years burned some bridges.

 

[sammyk]

I know that WVU has played the best the Big 12 has to offer so far and is giving up about 45 points a game. They have some wins left, Iowa State is awful and Kansas might be one of the worst teams in the NCAA. K state Texas Tech are vital, if WVU loses those then no country roads in December. And lets just say this continues to lose and be non competitive in the B12, it will set the WVU program back 10 years

 

[steeleer]

Dumbest. Thread. Ever.

Take less money, ruin our recruiting, less (nearly non-existent) TV exposure, essentially locked out of the Play-off mix, on the outside looking in when the P5 schools go independent of the NCAA and make a separate TV contract...leaving the rest of CFB to rot?

Are you seriously shitting me?

Everyone who agrees with this needs to read my first line again and then tattoo it backwards on your forehead to remind you how dumb this is when you are brushing your teeth every morning until you kick the bucket.

 

[sammyk]

Losing will hurt recruiting as well. WVU is and East coast team they recruit the East coast. They will never get the top kids from Texas, ever. Kids will stop coming to WVU if they continue to bomb.

 

[Willona Woods]

Sadly the AAC is not far behind the Big 12, this team would get steamrolled by Memphis and Houston, and would most definitely lose to Temple. Cincy, ECU, and Navy would be dog fights.

So don't act like we'd be faring much better in the American Conference.

Very true, but at least we would have a few games in our time zone.

LOL. WVU makes too much money being a punching bag. It is a bad fit. Most realize this. The fans' behavior over the past twenty years burned some bridges.

Yes, our fans directly caused the ACC to reject us. Duke, UNC, UVA, Miami, and WF all said that they did not want anything to do with our fans and traveling to Morgantown.

They cited drunkenness and criminal misconduct, including the incident where fans threw that trash can from the upper deck and hit Miami assistant Randy Shannon in the head. They then tipped over his ambulance outside the stadium. He nearly died from head trauma.

 

[Coolridge69Vette]

Yeah, there's a good idea.....lets move back to the new Big East so the program can make a fraction of the money they are now, while playing much improved teams that we aren't sure we could even beat right now, all the while hoping and praying that we finish ranked high enough among the "P5 left out" teams so we might get into a decent bowl game. That's got yippee written all over it. While we are in the mood to make such good decisions, why don't we write a contract to play Marshall for the next 10 years and play every game in Huntington while were at it.

 

[sammyk]

WVU goes to the AAC the AAC becomes a power conference, plain and simple. And getting kicked in the teeth week after week is not a great idea either. I think it would be better for WVU to got Indy than stay in the B12. At least then you could play Pitt, PSU, VT, MD, Louisville, ND, every year

 

[steeleer]

WVU goes to the AAC the AAC becomes a power conference, plain and simple.

Do you think the P5 conferences are going to give a Golden Ticket to the AAC when that gives the networks another conference to leverage against them in negotiations for TV contracts?

"Well B12, why pay you guys x, when the AAC will give us the same number (or more) games for half that?"

If anything, you will see the P5 purging certain programs (Vandy, Boston College, Colorado) that don't earn their keep before the "Great Migration" to independent status.

 

[sammyk]

The AAC is in some great TV markets, Philly, Orlando, Tampa, Houston, Dallas, Washington DC, New Orleans,

 

[Willona Woods]

Do you think the P5 conferences are going to give a Golden Ticket to the AAC when that gives the networks another conference to leverage against them in negotiations for TV contracts?

"Well B12, why pay you guys x, when the AAC will give us the same number (or more) games for half that?"

If anything, you will see the P5 purging certain programs (Vandy, Boston College, Colorado) that don't earn their keep before the "Great Migration" to independent status.

We would be better off as an Independent rather than continue in the B12.

 

[steeleer]

WVU goes to the AAC the AAC becomes a power conference, plain and simple. And getting kicked in the teeth week after week is not a great idea either. I think it would be better for WVU to got Indy than stay in the B12. At least then you could play Pitt, PSU, VT, MD, Louisville, ND, every year

Murox...is this you?

 

[sammyk]

I like the Indy status option. WVU could easily get great games on the East coast and make a ton of money and win. Who is Murox????

 

[Keyser76]

I think we should join the AFC East, Lol.

 

[sammyk]

Here is an argument for the AAC

WVU would play 3 ranked teams and Navy who is pretty good. WVU would got to a bowl in the AAC, they are not going bowling in the B12 , not this year(and that hurts recruiting). Down the road if WVU starts winning the conference which they should and go 11-1 or 12-0 then I am sure they get to a major bowl game and if undefeated they are in the playoff. With the potential of schools like Temple/ECU/Memphis/Houston/ Cincy/C and S Florida and the steady play of Navy the AAC could and in my opinion would be a power conference. You would play teams that are close and create more natural rivalries.

 

[sammyk]

Here is my argument for Indy status. You can play teams like PSU, Pitt, ND, Maryland every year. You could still get great recruits from PA/OH/FL. Here is what a possible schedule might look like

Temple
Notre Dame
Penn State
Maryland
East Carolina
Miami(FL)
Virginia Tech
Syracuse
Rutgers
Louisville
Navy
Pittsburgh

Morgantown would rock, great rivalries from the past re ignited and all games would be within driving distance. And most are winnable games

 

[CE4WVU]

And click goes the ignore button...

Very true, but at least we would have a few games in our time zone.


Yes, our fans directly caused the ACC to reject us. Duke, UNC, UVA, Miami, and WF all said that they did not want anything to do with our fans and traveling to Morgantown.

They cited drunkenness and criminal misconduct, including the incident where fans threw that trash can from the upper deck and hit Miami assistant Randy Shannon in the head. They then tipped over his ambulance outside the stadium. He nearly died from head trauma.

 

[wbgvwbgv]

We are 11-20 in the B12. We should move down to the AAC where we could compete for conference championships.

We will never recruit well enough to compete in the B12, and the travel is ridiculous.

I know that this is an idiot board, but what school in America would leave a power conference. Marshall wins most their games and no one even thinks it is an accomplishment. The program is bleeding money and there is a real possibility that they won't even be around in a few years.

B12 = $$$

 

[skygusty_rivals]

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[Art Selwyn]

Here is my argument for Indy status. You can play teams like PSU, Pitt, ND, Maryland every year. You could still get great recruits from PA/OH/FL. Here is what a possible schedule might look like

Temple
Notre Dame
Penn State
Maryland
East Carolina
Miami(FL)
Virginia Tech
Syracuse
Rutgers
Louisville
Navy
Pittsburgh

Morgantown would rock, great rivalries from the past re ignited and all games would be within driving distance. And most are winnable games

This would be much better than our current situation in the B12, which likely will dissolve in the near future anyway.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

WVU goes to the AAC the AAC becomes a power conference, plain and simple. And getting kicked in the teeth week after week is not a great idea either. I think it would be better for WVU to got Indy than stay in the B12. At least then you could play Pitt, PSU, VT, MD, Louisville, ND, every year

You must not really understand the money side of the equation! I wish in my heart WVU was in the Coastal Division of the ACC! Perfect athletic fit! But didn't happen so WVU had to jump at the Big 12. The saving grace would be if Cinci and Memphis/Crental Florida gets invited into conference.

 

[mountiefan88]

You must not really understand the money side of the equation! I wish in my heart WVU was in the Coastal Division of the ACC! Perfect athletic fit! But didn't happen so WVU had to jump at the Big 12. The saving grace would be if Cinci and Memphis/Crental Florida gets invited into conference.

The fans should have acted like adults then it might have.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

Here is my argument for Indy status. You can play teams like PSU, Pitt, ND, Maryland every year. You could still get great recruits from PA/OH/FL. Here is what a possible schedule might look like

Pitt, PSU, ND, and Maryland have no interest in playing us every year.

 

[VaultHunter]

I always thought WVU should have gone the independent route when the original Big East collapsed. Would have been cool to see who we could have played with that freedom.

But now that WVU is a Big12 member I wouldn't want that.

Only thing that makes sense for WVU other than the Big12 is a move to ACC/SEC/BigTen

I don't see any of those happening so WVU is right where they need to be.

Notre Dame travels coast to coast to play football games so let's drop the travel hurts talk k

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

WVU would make no freaking money as an independent. Don't you think we would have gone that route if the money was there?

What are some of you smoking?

 

[30Kelly]

Marshall wins most their games and no one even thinks it is an accomplishment. The program is bleeding money and there is a real possibility that they won't even be around in a few years.

B12 = $$$

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[thumbsup] kay: [thumbsup]

 

[MountaineerLegion]

If it weren't for 4 plays we win that game last night.

 

[Round Hillbilly]

We are 11-20 in the B12. We should move down to the AAC where we could compete for conference championships.

We will never recruit well enough to compete in the B12, and the travel is ridiculous.

hell let's just drop to fcs and play jmu, richmond, villanova, etc. i bet we'd be the big boys on the block again!