We offer pocket passer Nick Tiano..
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Disagree on pocket passer
I know I'll get eyes rolled at me but he reminds me of a slightly more athletic Bo Wallace (with more arm strength). He's not a pro style statue. He has pocket mobility and can run the spread option. Not a burner but Relf wasn't and Dak isn't really either.
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I know I'll get eyes rolled at me but he reminds me of a slightly more athletic Bo Wallace (with more arm strength). He's not a pro style statue. He has pocket mobility and can run the spread option. Not a burner but Relf wasn't and Dak isn't really either.
highlights>> http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1548759/nick-tiano
Yes.
Mullen can coach a pocket passer. Just because ONE didn't pan out at MSU doesn't mean all will (odd saying that when he holds practically every QB related record at State). There are probably guys who blocked for TR who could run faster 40's...
If he's mobile inside the pocket, I want him. Ala Alex Smith.
Mullen can coach a pocket passer. Just because ONE didn't pan out at MSU doesn't mean all will (odd saying that when he holds practically every QB related record at State). There are probably guys who blocked for TR who could run faster 40's...
If he's mobile inside the pocket, I want him. Ala Alex Smith.
I don't either. Seems like we are after josh white as well, who is another pro style. It's obvious Mullen's system works best with a bigger dual threat QB. Not sure why he doesn't think so.
Hope the Davis kid that transferred from New Hope to S-ville gets a look. S-Miss already offered him a scholly.
Alex Smith ran for 631 yards and 10 TDs his final year at Utah. That's more rushing TDs than Chris Relf ran for in his entire career at MSU.
I'm confused by how we define "pocket passer" and "dual threat" -- because statistically, Alex Smith was about as much of a "dual threat" as there was at the time, Vince Young notwithstanding.
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I agree he doesn't fit the term "Pocket Passer". I don't know what Bo Wallace's
time in the 40 is but I would guess around 4.8 or 4.9 which is why he is very ineffective trying to run laterally but he does a fine job running north and south when he doesn't end it with a Wallacing*, sorry.
time in the 40 is but I would guess around 4.8 or 4.9 which is why he is very ineffective trying to run laterally but he does a fine job running north and south when he doesn't end it with a Wallacing*, sorry.
I can understand why you wouldn't want your qb compared to Bo Wallace, but I think Wallace is a pretty good example of how a qb can be an effective runner without being fast.
And I'm sure a significant amount of those yards didn't come off of designed plays. And that's really my point... He doesn't have to be Manziel, but we just need a guy with the ability to evade the pass rush. Colt McCoy did it. McCarron did it. Luck did it (I can recall him running for like 50 yards on a scramble off the top of my head and he is NOT a dual). Practically any successful QB I can think of did it. The ability to stand in the pocket but rush for the 1st when **** hits the fan was always what was keeping TR from turning the corner. He had the same mobility as Ryan Mallett without the excuse of being a giant.
And Alex Smith hasn't had a designed running play called for him until that pistol this past season where he faked it to a ghost before running in for the TD. Not a dual.
Again, the pocket passer can thrive under Mullen, but he's going to have to have some raw athleticism that TR just didn't possess.