Weather Storm Essentials:

The Peeper

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Trying to learn something from this winter storm, what have you and or/family and friends that have had issues found to be essential for getting through it so far , things you don't think anybody should be without? I think I was ready but not sure because I never lost anything in Starkville luckily.

We all know to an extent i.e. a power source of some kind, water and food supplies, heat source, fuel. Specifically though what have been the most useful items for you? What did you think would help but has been pretty useless?
 

aTotal360

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How to Maintain Your Generac Home Generator
 

MagnoliaHunter

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solar phone charger and /or power block charger for the phone. some of the packs of hand warmers. put a pack in your shoes/boots and your feet will stay warm for 12 hours. Use a pack for your hands. It's amazing how much cold you can stand if your hands and feet are warm. Get an electric jacket. You can get them off of amazon for about $60 now. if you have one of the small jump boxes that has a USB port, it will run forever on it. I have two flashlights that run off of my Ryobi batteries and several batteries.
 

ckDOG

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No power issues here but I'll be getting a transfer switch installed so I can run a decent generator for next time. I don't think I want/need a whole house generac setup though. There's some areas of my house that could also use some insulation upgrade.

Anyone have a good generator rec that I can just wheel over when needed after I get the infrastructure taken care of? I'd be interested only in powering a gas furnace, lights, and refrigerator.
 
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thatsbaseball

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Trying to learn something from this winter storm, what have you and or/family and friends that have had issues found to be essential for getting through it so far , things you don't think anybody should be without? I think I was ready but not sure because I never lost anything in Starkville luckily.

We all know to an extent i.e. a power source of some kind, water and food supplies, heat source, fuel. Specifically though what have been the most useful items for you? What did you think would help but has been pretty useless?
Two thoughts : 1. If you have natural gas to your house have a plumber install a couple of wall outlets and use space heaters if you lose electric power. 2. If you have any 18 or 20V power tools be aware that the company that made those tools also probably makes an LED light that use the same batteries and will work for many hours off of a charged battery.
 

aTotal360

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What does something like that run; installed?
Not as much as you'd think. Install is going to be about 25% of the price. I'd say you can get a 24k Generac installed for around 10 grand if you shop it around. Neighbor got one from Costco. Used the Costco installer too. He's getting 24 months of free maintenance and got something like a $1000 gift card as well. Used that to buy all new deck furniture.
 

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My thoughts.

1. HEAT: If you don't have a fireplace or wood stove you need some other form of heat. I opt for a kerosene heater. You can spend $11-$17 or so per gallon of K1 kerosene to run it for 10 hours on my unit. You can also buy K1 kerosene from the pump at a gas station for $5/gallon. Start looking for the little pumps with the short hose at the station. This is the way to go. The unit I got is a 10,000 BTU. It has a removable 1 gallon tank so you can take the tank outside and fill it while it is still running, which is something you can't do on the tower units. Kerosene is easy to spill a drop here and there and it stinks up the house, so I like filling it outside. Once burning, you can barely smell it and 1 10,000 BTU heater per 1000 sq/ft of home will keep it at 66 degrees in the 25 degree temps we had.

My brother had a diesel heater that he ran and said it worked well to heat his man cave while his gas logs heated his home.

I also had backup heat with 3 20lb propane tanks with a single burner heater on top. I was good on heat for at least 15 days comfortably.

I have a gas generator that I don't have a house hookup for. If the weather was hot, I would use it to run my fridge and freezer. This week I moved our fridge contents to coolers outside with no ice in them and moved some cans of beer and cooked meat in the garage which was very cold.

2. Food: I used propane and white gas Coleman stoves galore. I also used a Coleman white gas lantern outside at night when I was grilling. I recommend a kamado style grill since they are efficient and you can close the vents and put the fire out, thus conserving your lump charcoal. I had 3 big bags. I smoke a pork shoulder and cooked a huge pot of chili. We have the normal long term floods as well. We ate like kings.

3. Water. Fill up bathtubs when power goes out to have non potable water. You can get a water bob to line a bathtub for potable water. I have a Berkey filter for drinking water, but it's slow in the winter. I always store a few hundred gallons of water in the garage for emergencies. Bottles of water usually suffice though.

4. Light: Battery powered lanterns are awesome after dark inside.

5. Communication: I had some cheap baofeng radios for if cell coverage went out and I went somewhere. I tested it when I went to explore the roads in my jeep. I could pick up my family from 1.5 miles away through heavy woods and hills.

6. Battery banks to recharge electronics like cell phones and run breathing treatments (nebulizers) for the elderly, which I needed since I picked up some elderly family to stay with us.
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My thoughts.

1. HEAT: If you don't have a fireplace or wood stove you need some other form of heat. I opt for a kerosene heater. You can spend $11-$17 or so per gallon of K1 kerosene to run it for 10 hours on my unit. You can also buy K1 kerosene from the pump at a gas station for $5/gallon. Start looking for the little pumps with the short hose at the station. This is the way to go. The unit I got is a 10,000 BTU. It has a removable 1 gallon tank so you can take the tank outside and fill it while it is still running, which is something you can't do on the tower units. Kerosene is easy to spill a drop here and there and it stinks up the house, so I like filling it outside. Once burning, you can barely smell it and 1 10,000 BTU heater per 1000 sq/ft of home will keep it at 66 degrees in the 25 degree temps we had.

My brother had a diesel heater that he ran and said it worked well to heat his man cave while his gas logs heated his home.

I also had backup heat with 3 20lb propane tanks with a single burner heater on top. I was good on heat for at least 15 days comfortably.

I have a gas generator that I don't have a house hookup for. If the weather was hot, I would use it to run my fridge and freezer. This week I moved our fridge contents to coolers outside with no ice in them and moved some cans of beer and cooked meat in the garage which was very cold.

2. Food: I used propane and white gas Coleman stoves galore. I also used a Coleman white gas lantern outside at night when I was grilling. I recommend a kamado style grill since they are efficient and you can close the vents and put the fire out, thus conserving your lump charcoal. I had 3 big bags. I smoke a pork shoulder and cooked a huge pot of chili. We have the normal long term floods as well. We ate like kings.

3. Water. Fill up bathtubs when power goes out to have non potable water. You can get a water bob to line a bathtub for potable water. I have a Berkey filter for drinking water, but it's slow in the winter. I always store a few hundred gallons of water in the garage for emergencies. Bottles of water usually suffice though.

4. Light: Battery powered lanterns are awesome after dark inside.

5. Communication: I had some cheap baofeng radios for if cell coverage went out and I went somewhere. I tested it when I went to explore the roads in my jeep. I could pick up my family from 1.5 miles away through heavy woods and hills.

6. Battery banks to recharge electronics like cell phones and run breathing treatments (nebulizers) for the elderly, which I needed since I picked up some elderly family to stay with us.
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The kerosene heaters you buy at Tractor supply come with a little hand pump to get the fuel in the heater.
 

onewoof

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Buddy up with fam/friends man, turn off the water source and go hang out and help others... The idea that every damn house needs a $10K backup is not realistic. Since when did America and MISSISSIPPI start living so isolated. Damn.
 

jethreauxdawg

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@Jeffreauxdawg told us about tire chains/cables a few years ago. They are freaking awesome, cheap, and easy to install. I don’t rember the brand I got, but just googled tire cables and got some for around $100
 
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If the Generac is a bit pricey you can get a 16,000 watt generator and have someone wire you in a plug to your panel. That would power most of your house except the AC but would easily power the blower fan on a NG/LP heater plus your house.

They have tri fuel ones that will run off gas/LP/NG.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

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@Jeffreauxdawg told us about tire chains/cables a few years ago. They are freaking awesome, cheap, and easy to install. I don’t rember the brand I got, but just googled tire cables and got some for around $100
It's a cheap date for sure. I bet a wrecker charges $300+ to pull someone out of the ditch in a snow storm these days.
 

OG Goat Holder

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If the Generac is a bit pricey you can get a 16,000 watt generator and have someone wire you in a plug to your panel. That would power most of your house except the AC but would easily power the blower fan on a NG/LP heater plus your house.

They have tri fuel ones that will run off gas/LP/NG.
This is what I will do eventually since I have gas heat and hard-wired fan (I really don't want to 17 with splicing it).

In the summer, you can survive without the AC. Generator can power refrigerator so you don't lose your shlt. But in the winter, with temps the way they are now, it's rough.
 

RivaDawg

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Not as much as you'd think. Install is going to be about 25% of the price. I'd say you can get a 24k Generac installed for around 10 grand if you shop it around. Neighbor got one from Costco. Used the Costco installer too. He's getting 24 months of free maintenance and got something like a $1000 gift card as well. Used that to buy all new deck furniture.
Thanks
 

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If the Generac is a bit pricey you can get a 16,000 watt generator and have someone wire you in a plug to your panel. That would power most of your house except the AC but would easily power the blower fan on a NG/LP heater plus your house.

They have tri fuel ones that will run off gas/LP/NG.
Another option if you already have a tractor. A PTO driven generator is a cheap option. I think I paid around $2500 for a 20 kw generator but that was probably ten years ago.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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Buddy up with fam/friends man, turn off the water source and go hang out and help others... The idea that every damn house needs a $10K backup is not realistic. Since when did America and MISSISSIPPI start living so isolated. Damn.
this is the way. A friend with a generator during a rough winter is better than a friend with a boat during the summer.
 

MaxwellSmart

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If the Generac is a bit pricey you can get a 16,000 watt generator and have someone wire you in a plug to your panel. That would power most of your house except the AC but would easily power the blower fan on a NG/LP heater plus your house.

They have tri fuel ones that will run off gas/LP/NG.

If you have new appliances with the all the smart stuff then you'll need an inverter instead of a regular old generator.
 

dawgstudent

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My thoughts.

1. HEAT: If you don't have a fireplace or wood stove you need some other form of heat. I opt for a kerosene heater. You can spend $11-$17 or so per gallon of K1 kerosene to run it for 10 hours on my unit. You can also buy K1 kerosene from the pump at a gas station for $5/gallon. Start looking for the little pumps with the short hose at the station. This is the way to go. The unit I got is a 10,000 BTU. It has a removable 1 gallon tank so you can take the tank outside and fill it while it is still running, which is something you can't do on the tower units. Kerosene is easy to spill a drop here and there and it stinks up the house, so I like filling it outside. Once burning, you can barely smell it and 1 10,000 BTU heater per 1000 sq/ft of home will keep it at 66 degrees in the 25 degree temps we had.

My brother had a diesel heater that he ran and said it worked well to heat his man cave while his gas logs heated his home.

I also had backup heat with 3 20lb propane tanks with a single burner heater on top. I was good on heat for at least 15 days comfortably.

I have a gas generator that I don't have a house hookup for. If the weather was hot, I would use it to run my fridge and freezer. This week I moved our fridge contents to coolers outside with no ice in them and moved some cans of beer and cooked meat in the garage which was very cold.

2. Food: I used propane and white gas Coleman stoves galore. I also used a Coleman white gas lantern outside at night when I was grilling. I recommend a kamado style grill since they are efficient and you can close the vents and put the fire out, thus conserving your lump charcoal. I had 3 big bags. I smoke a pork shoulder and cooked a huge pot of chili. We have the normal long term floods as well. We ate like kings.

3. Water. Fill up bathtubs when power goes out to have non potable water. You can get a water bob to line a bathtub for potable water. I have a Berkey filter for drinking water, but it's slow in the winter. I always store a few hundred gallons of water in the garage for emergencies. Bottles of water usually suffice though.

4. Light: Battery powered lanterns are awesome after dark inside.

5. Communication: I had some cheap baofeng radios for if cell coverage went out and I went somewhere. I tested it when I went to explore the roads in my jeep. I could pick up my family from 1.5 miles away through heavy woods and hills.

6. Battery banks to recharge electronics like cell phones and run breathing treatments (nebulizers) for the elderly, which I needed since I picked up some elderly family to stay with us.
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My dad still runs his. I remember this kerosene heater from the 1989 Ice Storm we had in Vicksburg. We would warm up canned vegetables on the metal grate on top. Also the first time I ever had a grilled frozen pizza. It was damn good.

Also if you need some 1950’s World book encyclopedias - my parents got you covered.

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My dad still runs his. I remember this kerosene heater from the 1989 Ice Storm we had in Vicksburg. We would warm up canned vegetables on the metal grate on top. Also the first time I ever had a grilled frozen pizza. It was damn good.

Also if you need some 1950’s World book encyclopedias - my parents got you covered.

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You conveniently cropped out the 110" 8K micro-LED screen on the right, though . . .
 

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If the Generac is a bit pricey you can get a 16,000 watt generator and have someone wire you in a plug to your panel. That would power most of your house except the AC but would easily power the blower fan on a NG/LP heater plus your house.

They have tri fuel ones that will run off gas/LP/NG.
16,000 watt would have something like, 12,000 or so running? That's plenty to run a central A/C. Those things use about 1000 watts per ton so a 3 ton rated ac would use somewhere around 3000 watts. Go ahead and throw in 500 more for good measure. you would have to budget your wattage when asking it to power an electric water heater too. Can be done but you won't be left with much.

it is recommended to get one of those new "soft start" boxes for the central unit to eliminate that big surge of demand when it's starting.

they also have those new transfer switches that mount right into your meter base between that and the meter. Called a gener link. I think it's a 40 amp limit right now but takes a 50 amp plug.

 

dawgman42

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16,000 watt would have something like, 12,000 or so running? That's plenty to run a central A/C. Those things use about 1000 watts per ton so a 3 ton rated ac would use somewhere around 3000 watts. Go ahead and throw in 500 more for good measure. you would have to budget your wattage when asking it to power an electric water heater too. Can be done but you won't be left with much.

it is recommended to get one of those new "soft start" boxes for the central unit to eliminate that big surge of demand when it's starting.

they also have those new transfer switches that mount right into your meter base between that and the meter. Called a gener link. I think it's a 40 amp limit right now but takes a 50 amp plug.


I put in a manual transfer switch w/ mechanical interlock on my house outside of Houston. Have a 10-kW dual-fuel (gas and propane) portable generator that I design it to work with. The electrician re-wired my entire panel and set it up to have a 70-amp custom-made cable plug into the generator and then plug into a new plug and box on the exterior. By my calculations, we could run most of the downstairs, downstairs 4-ton unit, and probably all the lights, TVs, etc., upstairs with ease; had an outside shot to run the entire house.

Of course, I moved away before I needed to use it and do NOT have that setup in the current house.
 

dudehead

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My dad still runs his. I remember this kerosene heater from the 1989 Ice Storm we had in Vicksburg. We would warm up canned vegetables on the metal grate on top. Also the first time I ever had a grilled frozen pizza. It was damn good.

Also if you need some 1950’s World book encyclopedias - my parents got you covered.

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I see Childcraft too. We have been assimilated on a similar track.
 
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Another option if you already have a tractor. A PTO driven generator is a cheap option. I think I paid around $2500 for a 20 kw generator but that was probably ten years ago.
If I wanted to I could go get one of our power units off of a pivot and run my house no problem but my neighbors would probably hate me.
 
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For power the only things I need to run are the fireplace blower, tv and satellite which total to 202W. I have a Honda eu2200i and 15 gallons of gas. I just bought an EcoFlo Delta 3 Plus that I can charge with the Honda since I have plenty of wattage left over and I'm eventually going to get the extra battery for it to raise its wattage to 2800. I will only run the Honda a few hours a day saving wear and tear and gasoline then finish out the day on the EcoFlo.

For food, I have a Coleman camp stove and 5 refillable 1lb bottles. I also have tons of food cooked and in the freezer so all I have to do is heat it up which is quicker and requires less gas than cooking it from scratch.

For heat, I have 8 20lb propane tanks and a single burner heater. If you get the tanks refilled instead of exchanging them, one tank will easily last 24 hours with the heater on high. I'm pretty sure the tanks that you exchange only have 16lbs of propane in them and it costs more than refilling them too.

I also have a camp shower. Heat water on the camp stove and dump it in a 5 gallon bucket or my crawfish cooker, place it in the shower, drop in the 4 D-cell sump, hang the nozzle and you have a warm/hot shower. I also have a Buddy Heater that uses the 1lb bottles to put in the bathroom for shower time.