Well, Refs sucked again.. or biased.. but it did not matter..

jerseybird

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"Zero posts regarding football" is what I said. I'm looking at your history as I type. Prior to this past Saturday these are the topics you posted on: George Floyd Hoax, All Season Tires, November 22, 1963, JMA Court Renovation, Why Do IRS Agents Need Guns? (5 posts), Guitar/Guitarist Appreciation Thread (2 posts), Why do you need to shoot a suspect when he doesn't have a gun? (4 posts).
This goes back to August 16. No football posts. My search for @jerseybird gives me that list. Am I looking at the wrong person? If I am I apologize and please direct me to the correct history.
Guess I'll have to up my post count with some Fire Schiano, Wimsatt isn't a P5 QB, Pike can't recruit, or coach offense or Mike O'Neil has let the game pass him by.
 

Colbert17!

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Guess I'll have to up my post count with some Fire Schiano, Wimsatt isn't a P5 QB, Pike can't recruit, or coach offense or Mike O'Neil has let the game pass him by.
Nice, but still wondering why all the comments this week when you've been quiet all year. I think that your choice of potential topics says a lot.
 

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Nice, but still wondering why all the comments this week when you've been quiet all year. I think that your choice of potential topics says a lot.
Not necessarily "potential" topics as some have been touched on in posts fairly recently on this board. And those topic denotations are meant in a sarcastic sense as I am a big fan of Greg, Gavin, Steve & Mike.
 
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Colbert17!

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Not necessarily "potential" topics as some have been touched on in posts fairly recently on this board. And those topic denotations are meant in a sarcastic sense as I am a big fan of Greg, Gavin, Steve & Mike.
Thanks. looking forward to hearing more from you (not sarcasm :) )
 

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I thought the PI against us was legit. DB can’t grab and hold that WR like that. And there was no need to do it.
There was reason for contact. Live.. and first replay I agreed with call because I do not know what the official thought he saw. But what actually happened was legal contact going both ways then an illegal push-off by the WR that send Melton off-balance and he steadied himself on the WR's shoulder.

That is what happened. If there was a flag there.. it should have been on the offense. The ball was not in teh air.. clearly.. so contact by the DB is allowed. The DB did not stop teh WR from coming downfield and teh WR pushed off before he was hindered in any way from coming back.

Given that no Iowa player was called for any contact against our WRs with teh ball in teh air.. even just before it got caught.. this should have been a no-call. And maybe if I had access to an Al--22 camera angle.. I might see that the flag was thrown only after the official in question saw it was a sack. Then again, it gave a free first down to Iowa, so maybe he was looking for any excuse... OR.. somehow he did not see the WR push off but saw teh DB's hand on the WR's shoulder "preventing" him from coming back for a ball that had not been thrown.
 

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There was reason for contact. Live.. and first replay I agreed with call because I do not know what the official thought he saw. But what actually happened was legal contact going both ways then an illegal push-off by the WR that send Melton off-balance and he steadied himself on the WR's shoulder.

That is what happened. If there was a flag there.. it should have been on the offense. The ball was not in teh air.. clearly.. so contact by the DB is allowed. The DB did not stop teh WR from coming downfield and teh WR pushed off before he was hindered in any way from coming back.

Given that no Iowa player was called for any contact against our WRs with teh ball in teh air.. even just before it got caught.. this should have been a no-call. And maybe if I had access to an Al--22 camera angle.. I might see that the flag was thrown only after the official in question saw it was a sack. Then again, it gave a free first down to Iowa, so maybe he was looking for any excuse... OR.. somehow he did not see the WR push off but saw teh DB's hand on the WR's shoulder "preventing" him from coming back for a ball that had not been thrown.
I had thought it looked like any contact Melton had with him was in the 5 yd buffer before tge ball was thrown and agree anything after that was on the WR. Meanwhile- the pass on our series, their guy hit our WR way before the ball was even close.
 

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I think you can expect that for the foreseeable future. I will be very interested to see how they handle the West Coast teams. Do they get the same treatment, or do they get the calls?
They are all college football powers, 3 traditional power, and one nouveaux power in Oregon. They will all be getting favorable calls when they play the have nots of the Big Ten.
 

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And before those that will come in again and tell us the refs did not cost us the game- We agree with you all that Iowa kicked our asses- but, that is not a reason to bend over to these refs this year- they have been brutal to us.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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I had thought it looked like any contact Melton had with him was in the 5 yd buffer before tge ball was thrown and agree anything after that was on the WR. Meanwhile- the pass on our series, their guy hit our WR way before the ball was even close.
Guess what.. I thought the same thing.. that NFL and College shared the 5-yard rule. Recently learned they do not. And that's why we see contact downfield without flags. In college, you can have contact anywhere.. UNLESS.. unless the ball is in the air.

Who knew? Not me. Not until a couple weeks ago I saw someone mention it during a game.

 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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And before those that will come in again and tell us the refs did not cost us the game- We agree with you all that Iowa kicked our asses- but, that is not a reason to bend over to these refs this year- they have been brutal to us.
EXACTLY CORRECT.

When refs blow it and we think it cost us the game we will say so... explicitly. But this game? Even if I stretch my imagination and say something about momentum and emotions and a closer score late changing things... I cannot say the calls cost us the game. We got outplayed.

And yet.. I can safely say the refs sucked and were biased as well.
 
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"The refs, the refs, the refs" is code for: out-coached, out-played and out-muscled.
EXACTLY CORRECT.

When refs blow it and we think it cost us the game we will say so... explicitly. But this game? Even if I stretch my imagination and say something about momentum and emotions and a closer score late changing things... I cannot say the calls cost us the game. We got outplayed.

And yet.. I can safely say the refs sucked and were biased as well.

Good ole - agree. I can’t understand why people can’t wrap their brain around the concept that BOTH can be true:

(1) the refs can suck and be biased (not a single Iowa penalty… yeah OK)

AND

(2) we can be out-coached, out-muscled and out-played

Imho this game is perfect example of that

Iowa was clearly the better team BUT the refs absolutely DID SUCK (particularly in first half).

Both are true
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Good ole - agree. I can’t understand why people can’t wrap their brain around the concept that BOTH can be true:

(1) the refs can suck and be biased (not a single Iowa penalty… yeah OK)

AND

(2) we can be out-coached, out-muscled and out-played

Imho this game is perfect example of that

Iowa was clearly the better team BUT the refs absolutely DID SUCK (particularly in first half).

Both are true
Yes.. both true and the OP title specifically states the refs were not the difference... but to push this idea that questioning refs.. questioning authority.. is somehow a sign of weakness.. that is ridiculous.
 
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I was at the game and agree the Refs were terrible....Take that out of the mix and we still lose the game......I was talking to a bunch of Iowa fans in the parking lots before the game and they all felt that we should win the game. They thought our D would be on par with theirs and our O was better, the general consensus from Iowa fans was all we had to do is get out in front and we should win. Obviously that was not the case......Bottom line

  1. We were out coached
  2. GW is not the answer
  3. O Play calling was atrocious
  4. Because of 2 & 3 above the D was on the field way too long in the second half
  5. Shot our selves in the foot with false starts