Well, some things just don't change

[kaz36_rivals189319]

At least he waited 2 years there before failing a drug test there.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/dec/17/-more-ysu-players-not-with-team-will-not/?newswatch&mobile

 

[N-sane]

Some men you just can't reach.

 

[jeans15]

Some men you just can't reach.

That's the parents job..not coaches.

That's why these things keep happening....because we forget that a lot of these young men had no quality home training. They are potential meal tickets as well.

I'm 43 and my mom still makes sure I'm doing the right things in life..

 

[huskerfan1414]

My gosh people are idiots.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Someone has to be responsible. I'll go with the 22 year old who should know what the rules are.

 

[jeans15]

Someone has to be responsible. I'll go with the 22 year old who should know what the rules are.

Yep.....but pretty much everyone in jail knew the rules.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Yep.....but pretty much everyone in jail knew the rules.

So the reason they don't respect those rules is because their parent(s) didn't provide quality home training? Sounds like a never ending cycle to me.

 

[jeans15]

So the reason they don't respect those rules is because their parent(s) didn't provide quality home training? Sounds like a never ending cycle to me.

Umm yeah..parents are not their just to pay for everything ..the government can do that......that's the basics of parenting.....teaching you to respect authority.


And until we start shaming bad parenting the sooner that cycle can be minimized.


Lawrence Phillips had issues for a reason........they didn't start at Nebraska.

 

[19Football19]

That's the parents job..not coaches.

That's why these things keep happening....because we forget that a lot of these young men had no quality home training. They are potential meal tickets as well.

I'm 43 and my mom still makes sure I'm doing the right things in life..

Good for you for admitting it and having the respect of your mom and hopefully parents. I'm 46 and agree whole heartedly with you.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Umm yeah..parents are not their just to pay for everything ..the government can do that......that's the basics of parenting.....teaching you to respect authority.


And until we start shaming bad parenting the sooner that cycle can be minimized.


Lawrence Phillips had issues for a reason........they didn't start at Nebraska.

So the answer is shaming bad parenting? Got it and I will start immediately. Do you have a checklist I can use? I want to shame only the bad parents.

 

[jeans15]

So the answer is shaming bad parenting? Got it and I will start immediately. Do you have a checklist I can use? I want to shame only the bad parents.

Too easy... I will pass.

You are right. Parenting means nothing.,,gtfo...I'm done.

 

[otismotis08]

This makes Bo a bad parent?

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Too easy... I will pass.

You are right. Parenting means nothing.,,gtfo...I'm done.

Where did I say parenting means nothing? You want to blame it all on parenting. The coach not enforcing rules does nothing to curb behavior. The player choosing to break rules at the age of 22 is his fault. Not every criminal came had a bad upbringing and not every kid from a bad upbringing is a criminal.

Talk about too easy.

 

[jeans15]

Where did I say parenting means nothing? You want to blame it all on parenting. The coach not enforcing rules does nothing to curb behavior. The player choosing to break rules at the age of 22 is his fault. Not every criminal came had a bad upbringing and not every kid from a bad upbringing is a criminal.

Talk about too easy.

Yes..it is his fault.

That's a cop out answer. Of course not every one does anything, good lord.

The majority of criminals come from that background. Bad parenting Coming from opulence doesn't equal good parenting.


It entails more than you are even imagining.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Yes..it is his fault.

That's a cop out answer. Of course not every one does anything, good lord.

The majority of criminals come from that background. Bad parenting Coming from opulence doesn't equal good parenting.


It entails more than you are even imagining.

The cop out answer? When did self responsibility become a cop out?

Jeans I enjoy reading your posts but you are a prototypical enabler and rarely put the blame on the player. When Armstrong plays badly, it was poor play calling. When the team plays poorly they weren't coached well enough. When a kid fails a drug test it's the parent(s) fault.

At some point we all have to look at ourselves and realize the decisions we make are our own. The cop out answer is not taking ownership of those decisions and their consequences.

 

[jeans15]

The cop out answer? When did self responsibility become a cop out?

Jeans I enjoy reading your posts but you are a prototypical enabler and rarely put the blame on the player. When Armstrong plays badly, it was poor play calling. When the team plays poorly they weren't coached well enough. When a kid fails a drug test it's the parent(s) fault.

At some point we all have to look at ourselves and realize the decisions we make are our own. The cop out answer is not taking ownership of those decisions and their consequences.

I agree. I put myself in that situation sometimes to be the voice of the player.

I agree it is his fault. I guess I was taking the convo somewhere instead of sticking with the single action of the player.

 

[dockentwo]

I agree. I put myself in that situation sometimes to be the voice of the player.

I agree it is his fault. I guess I was taking the convo somewhere instead of sticking with the single action of the player.

Your somewhere else is important, nice you can bottom line it ; I knew the two of you could come to a positive point. .... Some of the best people and parents I have known at every stage of my life; have sat and shook their heads at a child's actions. Sometimes you can perceive some helicopter parenting; but even then, too help set them straight. Now , looking at their kids pushing 40 and acting out and even somewhat cruel in their response - parents find themselves grappling with their perceived failure, that things will never change. And in some cases, kids eventually adapt to their parents issues. But we demand freedom at a young age in this country; and there are legal ages for responsibility. Fences and borders.