Well the DVC is dead,...
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Going to be a great new conference. Probably the best 7A conference in the state (ok they have one 8A school...)
The DVC will survive I think - but they really need 3 schools to make an 8 team conference. If DVC can't get the oswegos or Plainfield north or Bolingbrook ... I guess they could try and get some non con crossover games going with the CCL blue! Aren't those guys always looking for teams to put on the schedule?
The DVC will survive I think - but they really need 3 schools to make an 8 team conference. If DVC can't get the oswegos or Plainfield north or Bolingbrook ... I guess they could try and get some non con crossover games going with the CCL blue! Aren't those guys always looking for teams to put on the schedule?
Going to be a great new conference. Probably the best 7A conference in the state (ok they have one 8A school...)
The DVC will survive I think - but they really need 3 schools to make an 8 team conference. If DVC can't get the oswegos or Plainfield north or Bolingbrook ... I guess they could try and get some non con crossover games going with the CCL blue! Aren't those guys always looking for teams to put on the schedule?
Two 8A schools, Lake Park and St. Charles East.
Yes 2 Sorry I stand corrected - sometimes I forget LP is 8A. And the Wheaton's and Glenbard don't seem to mind LP being 8A either and/or they forget as well.
Per the Daily Herald the remaining DVC schools extend invitations to three mystery schools to round out the conference, hopefully they accept since they have very few options to begin with. Out of state games could become the norm for them if they are stuck with five teams.
And the Upstate 13 becomes the Upstate 9,...
http://football.dailyherald.com/article/20161120/sports/161129939/
http://football.dailyherald.com/article/20161120/sports/161129939/
I know the tradition of the WSC and it's century-long rivalries will prevent this from happening.... BUT..... the remainder of the DVC, BB, and WSC consist of 20 schools that could break down in very nice divisions. Crossovers maintain the rivalries, and the divisions can be adjusted. Here is the new West Suburban Silver, Gold, and White
Naperville Central
Naperville North
Neuqua Valley
Waubonsie Valley
Bolingbrook
Glenbard West
Hinsdale Central
Lyons
Metea Valley
Oak Park
Downers North
Downers South
York
Hinsdale South
Addison Trail
Willowbrook
Leyden
Proviso East
Proviso West
Morton
Convince R-B to forget about whatever bad idea they currently have, and you can keep the recent tradition of 7-team divisions in the WSC
WSC-W
NN - NC - NV - WV - MV - BB - GW
WSC-S
HC - LT - DGN - DGS - Y - OPRF - HS
WSC-G
AT - WB - RB - PE - PW - M - L
Which schools say no????
Naperville Central
Naperville North
Neuqua Valley
Waubonsie Valley
Bolingbrook
Glenbard West
Hinsdale Central
Lyons
Metea Valley
Oak Park
Downers North
Downers South
York
Hinsdale South
Addison Trail
Willowbrook
Leyden
Proviso East
Proviso West
Morton
Convince R-B to forget about whatever bad idea they currently have, and you can keep the recent tradition of 7-team divisions in the WSC
WSC-W
NN - NC - NV - WV - MV - BB - GW
WSC-S
HC - LT - DGN - DGS - Y - OPRF - HS
WSC-G
AT - WB - RB - PE - PW - M - L
Which schools say no????
Good luck getting anyone into that DVC although I would like all the open dates for non con games, thats likely what will make it not happen. Plus of course I am now nervous about the playoffs when I had never been before.
that DuKane Conference looks nice though. Not sure how it helps LP though
that DuKane Conference looks nice though. Not sure how it helps LP though
I love the new DuKane. Also, while I diasagree with Bartlett being a nice fit in football, the split of students in Carol Stream between North and Bartlett, and the proximity, would make for a sweet rivalry.
They have extended invites but has there been any talk if the invited schools are actually interested or if it is just wishful thinking by the remaining DVC schools?
I could see Bolingbrook being interested due it being a closer place to play and some natural rivalries but the Oswego schools have a pretty good set up in their conference right now.
Would be disappointed in the Brook, if they were not interested. Seems like a great fit. There's no reason why they wouldn't be competitive in the "new" DVC. They have the enrollment and talent to compete. Plus, their current conference is a mess.
We're a basketball school now, somehow. Before this year I didnt believe it, now I do. Going DVC hurts hoops and kills football for us. Yeah we have the enrollment, but thats about it.
PJJP,
Here is what I know about invites and discussions. Probably makes sense why no one is rushing to the potentially dead DVC.
The DVC invited Oswego, Oswego east which was a No go, and Bolingbrook which was a No go.
The "No go" was because the DVC has no long term plan to grow the Conference. Also they will revert back to home and away for two opponents just to make a schedule work. Why would any of these schools leave the setup they currently have?
Here is what I know about invites and discussions. Probably makes sense why no one is rushing to the potentially dead DVC.
The DVC invited Oswego, Oswego east which was a No go, and Bolingbrook which was a No go.
The "No go" was because the DVC has no long term plan to grow the Conference. Also they will revert back to home and away for two opponents just to make a schedule work. Why would any of these schools leave the setup they currently have?
I get why the Oswegos would not want to leave the Southwest Prairie. They are in a stable conference that makes sense from a geographical sense. However, the DVC would seem to involve less travel for Bolingbrook. Also, their current conference is a mess. The DVC would seem like a great fit for the Brook. There are some natural rivalries with the Naperville schools.
PJJP,
Would you want to play two of your conference opponents twice every year because there are not enough teams? The DVC has no plan to attempt an expansion beyond that, which I personally believe is the single biggest issue. Seriously think about who is leading the Conference today. It truly is a shame but I have a bad feeling the DVC as we know it is dead.
Would you want to play two of your conference opponents twice every year because there are not enough teams? The DVC has no plan to attempt an expansion beyond that, which I personally believe is the single biggest issue. Seriously think about who is leading the Conference today. It truly is a shame but I have a bad feeling the DVC as we know it is dead.
If you are the Brook, make your joining contingent upon the conference adding two other schools to bring the total number of teams to 8. If 2 others are not added, then it's a no go for the Brook.
From what I understand there was an issue of uncertainty regarding how many games were guaranteed. With the DVC in limbo about who was in and who was out there was no way to answer.
If the other two schools are in that takes care of one issue, only 2 non con games need to be found. But all those potential losses make me queasy.
Whats the SWP looking like?
If the other two schools are in that takes care of one issue, only 2 non con games need to be found. But all those potential losses make me queasy.
Whats the SWP looking like?
I would think the SWP would be a viable option. The Brook could join their Valley View partner, Romeoville. I'm guessing the SWP would need one more school to bring the total to 12 and have two divisions of 6 teams each.
Am I misreading the Brook's current conference affiliation in the Southwest Suburban? Is the turmoil of LWN closing and the two Joliets leaving overblown? How about plans going forward for the conference? Seems like a 13-team conference needs something to happen to even things out.
The Southwest Suburban needed Stagg to leave 12 teams works so much smoother then 13.
Yeah I'm thinking that could leave the Brook out in the cold without a conference.
Imagine telling your mistress hey lose 20# and if you do I'll leave my Wife. Wife gets word of this and your out of the house and now the Mistress is making the rules. My opinion, worthless or otherwise, it just ain't worth it!
Imagine telling your mistress hey lose 20# and if you do I'll leave my Wife. Wife gets word of this and your out of the house and now the Mistress is making the rules. My opinion, worthless or otherwise, it just ain't worth it!
See this is problematic. Cant have that DVC slate and our other rivals are LWE and HF. Its just not feasible.
I think Oswego could hang in football, probably an annual 4-7 win team in the league. Probably be OK to bad in everything else. OE I'm not sure would compete in much on a year-to-year basis.
Must be banking on the thought processes the Oswego/Montgomery area is about to boom again and enrollment is going to go up and they are looking to go bigger?
Bolingbrook, who knows?
If I'm the D203's and D204's I think you almost need to go beg the WSC to let you in and re-do the divisions.
IHSA vision of districts is plain stupid. Get rid of the title entitlement attitude and have quality teams reach the playoffs rather than 256 teams and all the shuffling and whining goes away.
If they (DVC) are trying to sell playing a conference team twice in the football regular season,.. then I get it. No one wants to do that (I think the DVC did that with one team each in 2014 before the valleys arrived?).
However - If they can make a 6 team or ideally an 8 team conference - then what is the issue?
Come on Bones - you aren't saying Boilingbrook should be worried about competing with NC/NN and the Valleys are you? Your post seems to imply that from my perception (am I right, wrong?) Additionally Some of the comments on this thread are implying that's one of the reasons schools (Oswegos) are shying away from the invite. It's not like these 5 schools are Bishop Gormans or Loyola's - they are good programs- but not world beaters. They will have up years and down years just like most other schools.
That said - me personally - I wouldn't mind 5 conference games in a six school league.
* 2 Non con games at beginning of year for warm up
* 5 Conference games
* 2 Non con games at end of year to prep for playoffs (if you have to go out of state to play some independents or privates - just a little more travel. make sure one of the games is very tough to prep for playoffs.
Hell - NC/NN/Valleys should talk to the CCL blue about a non conf game or 2 so they can prep as well? Or maybe replace the CCL crossovers if other CCL teams don't like playing Blue crossovers?
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I think skinny jeans have done serious damage to football making it difficult to compete.
I have to imagine if they can't get anyone to join the DVC that NN and NC will try to break out on their own and join another conference.
The Valley schools are stuck with an odd number of schools and no conference is going to want them or a five team Naperville package.
The Valley schools are stuck with an odd number of schools and no conference is going to want them or a five team Naperville package.