West Ratings..

[DEVILSLB99]

A game or two left to play, but this is what I got...

1. Woodgrove 29.3
2. Amherst 25.5
3. Millbrook 25.4
4. Salem 25.16
5. Byrd 25.16
6. Pulaski 24.6
7. Glass 24.5
8. Champe 24.3
9. GW 24
10. Heritage 23.67
11. Dominion 23.4
12. Charlottesville 23.16

13. LV 22.67

 

[DinwiddieProud]

Where is Sherando? 14th?

 

[Hoofprint]

Looks like Salems only chance to move up to 2nd is for Amherst to lose one more. And win out of course.

 

[mikesalem]

Looks like Salems only chance to move up to 2nd is for Amherst to lose one more. And win out of course.

Probably true, they keep moving up the list every week. They will have a challenge with PH and Pulaski. Amherst has some challenges with JF, Heritage, Rustburg, and Appomattox the next 4 games. Losing their QB is a huge deal. We'll have to see how they respond after losing to Brookville and with 4 tough games ahead. Most teams would have difficulty with that tough schedule and a 2nd string QB.

 

[hamspear]

Who plays tonight

 

[Hoofprint]

I think Amherst and Salem have the best shot at knocking off Woodgrove. So from a purely selfish standpoint I'd like to see Amherst at 4 so they could take a shot and possibly have us avoid a 4 hour trip.

 

[DinwiddieProud]

This might help.

Friday's Scores

Abingdon 45, Lebanon 0
Albemarle 26, Charlottesville 18
Altavista 61, Chatham 6
Annandale 28, Mount Vernon 21
Appomattox 16, Dan River 14
Battlefield 45, Osbourn Park 22
Bishop Sullivan 51, Charlotte Providence Day, N.C. 9
Bluestone 13, Nottoway 0
Brentsville 42, Fauquier 27
Briar Woods 35, Westfield 34
Broad Run 29, Yorktown 7
Brooke Point 55, North Stafford 17
Brookville 32, Amherst County 31
C.D. Hylton 56, Gar-Field 0
Castlewood 20, Twin Springs 6
Centreville 21, Oakton 12
Chancellor 38, Courtland 23
Chantilly 49, McLean 14
Chincoteague 43, Portsmouth Christian 37
Clarke County 52, Strasburg 14
Clover Hill 48, George Wythe-Richmond 16
Colonial Forge 52, Forest Park 14
Cosby 26, Huguenot 14
Covenant School 40, Fishburne Military 0
Dinwiddie 28, Thomas Dale 19
Dominion 37, Loudoun County 10
Douglas Freeman 43, Glen Allen 0
E.C. Glass 21, Liberty-Bedford 0
Eastside 44, Rye Cove 8
Edison 32, Wakefield 14
Episcopal 42, St. Stephens-St. Agnes 3
Essex 33, Northumberland 6
Franklin 26, Brunswick 6
Gate City 38, Virginia High 20
George Wythe-Wytheville 48, Northwood 10
Glenvar 13, Giles 10, OT
Goochland 49, Buckingham County 8
Graham 49, Grayson County 10
Grassfield 35, Great Bridge 3
Hampton 48, Kecoughtan 0
Hampton Roads Generals 45, Brunswick Academy 13
Harrisonburg 21, Spotswood 18
Henrico 72, Armstrong 0
Heritage-Lynchburg 56, Franklin County 34
Hermitage 42, Deep Run 13
Hickory 20, Deep Creek 16
Highland Springs 42, Hanover 0
Hopewell 16, Meadowbrook 0
Hurley 56, Grundy 6
J.I. Burton 46, Honaker 27
J.R. Tucker 99, Mills Godwin 0
James Monroe 21, Caroline 0
Jamestown 29, New Kent 8
John Battle 27, Central Wise 21, OT
John Champe 53, Rock Ridge 14
Kettle Run 22, Culpeper 7
King George 47, Spotsylvania 7
King William 38, Charles City 30
Lafayette 50, Grafton 18
Lake Braddock 42, T.C. Williams 7
Lake Taylor 51, Churchland 6
Langley 26, Washington-Lee 12
Lee-Davis 21, Atlee 10
Liberty-Bealeton 35, Manassas Park 14
Loudoun Valley 40, Handley 14
Louisa 28, Powhatan 20
Manchester 54, Midlothian 26
Martinsburg, W.Va. 45, Liberty Christian 13
Martinsville 42, Halifax County 0
Massaponax 31, Stafford 20
Matoaca 38, Petersburg 14
Maury 19, Woodrow Wilson 14
Middlesex 21, West Point 20
Millbrook 66, Skyline 28
Monacan 42, James River-Midlothian 0
Monticello 35, Fluvanna 14
Nandua 53, Snow Hill, Md. 14
Narrows 47, Bland County 20
Norcom 26, Granby 7
Norfolk Academy 42, Atlantic Shores Christian 40
Norview 56, Booker T. Washington 0
Orange County 63, Western Albemarle 22
Oscar Smith 21, Indian River 7
Patrick Henry-Glade Spring 41, Holston 6
Patrick Henry-Roanoke 24, Cave Spring 0
Potomac 31, Mountain View 13
Prince George 48, Colonial Heights 21
Pulaski County 42, Christiansburg 0
Quantico 48, Northern Virginia HomeSchool 6
Randolph Henry 28, Cumberland 6
Rappahannock County 52, Massanutten Military 0
Richlands 45, Tazewell 0
Riverbend 24, Woodbridge 5
Riverheads 49, East Rockingham 28
Riverside 31, George Mason 13
Rustburg 27, Jefferson Forest 26
Salem 57, Blacksburg 21
South County 56, W.T. Woodson 32
South Lakes 56, Herndon 23
St. Albans, D.C. 34, Paul VI 21
St. Christopher's 50, Fork Union Prep 42
Stone Bridge 36, James Robinson 21
Stonewall Jackson-Manassas 26, Osbourn 0
Sussex Central 32, Park View-South Hill 14
Thomas Walker 27, Hancock County, Tenn. 19
TJ-Richmond 21, John Marshall 16
Turner Ashby 50, Fort Defiance 7
Tuscarora 24, Potomac Falls 17, OT
Union 50, Lee High 14
Varina 26, Patrick Henry-Ashland 14
Warwick 14, Denbigh 0
Washington & Lee 41, Lancaster 40
Waynesboro 21, R.E. Lee-Staunton 4
West Potomac 47, West Springfield 40
Western Branch 21, Nansemond River 0
William Byrd 43, William Fleming 20
William Campbell 38, Gretna 0
William Monroe 35, Warren County 10
Wilson Memorial 51, Stonewall Jackson-Quicksburg 8
Woodberry Forest 35, Collegiate-Richmond 16
Woodbridge, Del. 40, St. John Paul the Great 0
Woodgrove 52, Freedom (South Riding) 14
Woodstock Central 45, Madison County 26
York 40, Bruton 21

POSTPONEMENTS AND CANCELLATIONS
Alleghany vs. Lord Botetourt, ppd. to Oct 10.
Amelia County vs. Prince Edward County, ppd. to Oct 10.
Bath County vs. Covington, ppd. to Oct 10.
Buffalo Gap vs. Stuarts Draft, ppd. to Oct 10.
Chilhowie vs. Rural Retreat, ppd. to Oct 10.
Eastern Montgomery vs. Auburn, ppd. to Oct 8.
Fuqua School vs. Roanoke Catholic, ppd. to Oct 10.
Galax vs. Fort Chiswell, ppd. to Oct 8.
Hidden Valley vs. Carroll County, ppd. to Oct 10.
James River-Buchanan vs. Craig County, ppd. to Oct 10.
Luray vs. Page County, ppd. to Oct 8.
Magna Vista vs. Bassett, ppd. to Oct 10.
Radford vs. Floyd County, ppd. to Oct 10.
Staunton River vs. Northside, ppd. to Oct 10




Thursday's Scores from he AP :

Bayside 48, First Colonial 16
Colonial Beach 39, Rappahannock 0
Falls Church 56, Lee-Springfield 21
Green Run 41, Kempsville 0
GW-Danville 54, Patrick County 0
Hampton Roads 34, Greenbrier Christian 14
Hayfield 54, Fairfax 9
Heritage (Leesburg) 42, Park View-Sterling 3
J.E.B. Stuart 42, TJ-Alexandria 6
James Madison 41, George Marshall 0
King's Fork 46, Lakeland 31
Norfolk Christian 46, Broadwater Academy 0
Ocean Lakes 34, Kellam 0
Poquoson 45, Warhill 10
Salem-Va. Beach 21, Frank Cox 9
Smithfield 32, Tabb 14
Southampton Academy 54, Grace Christian-Raleigh, N.C. 12
Surry County 48, Windsor 0
Tallwood 25, Princess Anne 22
Woodside 53, Bethel 8


moved to Sat due to short week
Galax @ Fort Chiswell, 12:30
Eastern Montgomery @ Auburn, 1:00
Luray @ Page Co., 6:00


moved to 7:00 Monday due to wx
Chilhowie at Rural Retreat
Radford at Floyd County, tba
Hidden Valley at Carroll County
Staunton River at Northside
Alleghany at Lord Botetourt
Magna Vista at Bassett
Bath County at Covington
Fuqua at Roanoke Catholic

Indian River @ Oscar Smith - moved from 1:00 Sat. to 7:00 Friday at Hickory HS
Heritage @ Phoebus - moved from Sat. to Fri., Nov. 4 @ 7:00

 

[DinwiddieProud]

I can't vouch for the accuracy, but it was posted by VHSL Helper, who is usually on the mark.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

That Tucker/Godwin score is a wee bit off.

 

[DEVILSLB99]

That Tucker/Godwin score is a wee bit off.

LOL..LT-Churchland was 58-12 too

 

[DEVILSLB99]

Where is Sherando? 14th?

They're only at 20.5

 

[hamspear]

Sherando score not listed on here , but seen on Friday night someone put 34-10, and cal preps picked it up as the same. It was 34-0. No biggie

 

[1MoreHokie]

Looks like Salems only chance to move up to 2nd is for Amherst to lose one more. And win out of course.

Salem will struggle to be #1 in the West(mostly not their fault, though) from here on out. Too much parity in the region and you can't count on certain teams anymore to pull their weight consistently. Letting FC drop them also hurt as they provided good 6A points. PH will be a 4A next year as well. If they're now willing to travel further for OOD play they shouldn't schedule 4A for that anymore but 5A and 6A schools and let those points work for them.

Will probably be some time before another semis is played at home again. I mean the same thing goes for say, Amherst. Just too many middling teams on the schedule in a given year, too many district teams taking bad OOD losses and then just beating up on each other in district play(the Seminole is a great example of brutal conference play).

 

[Hoofprint]

OOD next year is Amherst Franklin County Dinwiddie Northside.

 

[1MoreHokie]

OOD next year is Amherst Franklin County Dinwiddie Northside.

Right and I'm saying when they finish the home-and-home with Dinwiddie they need to pick up another 5A or 6A, maybe just head up 81 and find one. FC was never usually a powerhouse when Salem played them but even the points from a middling 6A do wonders for a 4A. If Salem wants to be home during West finals they need to schedule for that OOD.

It also doesn't help that a lot of area schools that used to be 5A and 6A have shrunk to basically all 4A in the area minus FC. Instead of keeping those same middling teams on the schedule when they're 4A and do Salem no good, seek a middling 5A or 6A team and get some benefit. 4A teams almost always benefit from playing Salem, only 1-2 a year respond in kind. Seeing now that they're willing to make trips to play football it's probably a good idea to schedule more aggressively for points since nobody in the area is really doing Salem any favors.

 

[mikesalem]

Salem will struggle to be #1 in the West(mostly not their fault, though) from here on out. Too much parity in the region and you can't count on certain teams anymore to pull their weight consistently. Letting FC drop them also hurt as they provided good 6A points. PH will be a 4A next year as well. If they're now willing to travel further for OOD play they shouldn't schedule 4A for that anymore but 5A and 6A schools and let those points work for them.

Will probably be some time before another semis is played at home again. I mean the same thing goes for say, Amherst. Just too many middling teams on the schedule in a given year, too many district teams taking bad OOD losses and then just beating up on each other in district play(the Seminole is a great example of brutal conference play).

I don't think PH is going 4A anytime soon. They just barely fit in 5A. Fleming is moving up to 5A next year I think. 1900 students at PH, 1500 at Fleming, there isn't a way to gerrymander the lines to get both in 4A (I think that would be the ideal dream of RCPS)

 

[1MoreHokie]

I don't think PH is going 4A anytime soon. They just barely fit in 5A. Fleming is moving up to 5A next year I think. 1900 students at PH, 1500 at Fleming, there isn't a way to gerrymander the lines to get both in 4A (I think that would be the ideal dream of RCPS)

You're probably right, I think I was confusing them with Fleming. If Fleming's 5A again let's make that happen then

Ideally I'd really like Northside(bc rivals), FC(6A), and at least one if not two 5/6A schools OOD every single year.

 

[Hoofprint]

Amherst will pick up 36 points for a win over Appomattox this year. FC would have to win 5 games to get us 36 points. We just need our opponents to win some games, that's what's hurting us the most. CS, HV , Bburg, Cburg, CC, and even NS this year. 11 wins from those 6 schools

 

[mikesalem]

Amherst will pick up 36 points for a win over Appomattox this year. FC would have to win 5 games to get us 36 points. We just need our opponents to win some games, that's what's hurting us the most. CS, HV , Bburg, Cburg, CC, and even NS this year. 11 wins from those 6 schools

An opponent with a lot of wins is more important than classification. it would be nice if we could have both. Hopefully Franklin Co will have a competitive team next yr and going forward. We can't do anything about the RRD unfortunately, it used to be much more competitive. This year besides Salem, PH, & Pulaski the other members may not be above .500 and could all miss the playoffs.

 

[numb3rs]

Salem should definitely pick up a 5A William Fleming. Outside of WF and FC, I'm not sure what other 5A/6A options are realistic. I think there's a slight chance that a Loudoun County 5A school would schedule Salem, which I'd love to see, but not a great one. Another possibility would be a newly opening 5A/6A school in need of games, though that might not generate many playoff points.

After the Dinwiddie series, I'd recommend a Sherando-Salem series, particularly if/when the Warriors move up to 5A. Despite the distance, it's a straight shot on I-81, and Sherando always has to schedule several out of state opponents so I think it'd be attractive to them too.

 

[one man]

A game or two left to play, but this is what I got...

1. Woodgrove 29.3
2. Amherst 25.5
3. Millbrook 25.4
4. Salem 25.16
5. Byrd 25.16
6. Pulaski 24.6
7. Glass 24.5
8. Champe 24.3
9. GW 24
10. Heritage 23.67
11. Dominion 23.4
12. Charlottesville 23.16

13. LV 22.67

Thanks for posting this Mike. Been refreshing the VHSL page all morning,

Observations:

Dulles district has 4 of top 12 and 5th team sitting at 13. Conventional wisdom says they'll get 3 teams for sure and possibly a 4th as the 11 or 12. I'll take Woodgrove, Champe and Dominion as sure bets with the Heritage-LV winner possibly landing a spot. I'm guessing Woodgrove gets the #1 and Salem will also win out to earn a 1st round bye, not sure the seed. Amherst still has Appo and Seminole games so they could lose another if they aren't careful which would knock them out of bye range. Millbrook has Sherando standing in their way of 9-1. Byrd has LB standing in their way of 9-1. I'd guess 9-1 Byrd would outpoint 9-1 Millbrook as LB would bring more points than anyone left of Millbrooks schedule. Glass has Seminole slate which is always tough and Champe has Dominion & Heritage left as tough games. GW should win out, might get challenged by MV but I'd say 8-2 finish for them. We look like the most vulnerable team in the top 12 based on our remaining schedule and current ranking.

I'm going to say 10 of the current top 12 are sure bets to remain in the top 12 in a shuffled order.

Not sure of their point totals but these are Teams not listed to keep an eye on...

Sherando - Still have the tough game with Fort Hill but if they can knock off Millbrook, they'd have to be the highest rated 6-4 and with a bit of help, could sneak in. If they win out, they should easily make the top 12 at 7-3.

LCA - Just lost their 4th game (Bishop Sullivan, Martinsburg, Benedictine and Amherst) with 5A contender Norview still looming. If they upset Norview they'll get a ton of points. Not sure what they get for the other privates on their schedule but maybe at 6-4 they could possibly outpoint a 7-3 team for the final spot?

Harrisonburg - 3-3 right now coming off win over Spotswood. Maybe rival TA can give them a game, other wise I'd bet the Streaks will win out and finish 7-3 with losses to Cville, Glass and Brookville.

Jefferson Forest - 2-4 with all 4 loses being close. Still have Amherst & Glass, wins there and they'll get a lot of points. In the same boat as Sherando, they'll need to pull upsets and possibly get help.

Good Luck this week to your teams. Keep rooting for us, we're still working!!!

 

[1MoreHokie]

Salem should definitely pick up a 5A William Fleming. Outside of WF and FC, I'm not sure what other 5A/6A options are realistic. I think there's a slight chance that a Loudoun County 5A school would schedule Salem, which I'd love to see, but not a great one. Another possibility would be a newly opening 5A/6A school in need of games, though that might not generate many playoff points.

After the Dinwiddie series, I'd recommend a Sherando-Salem series, particularly if/when the Warriors move up to 5A. Despite the distance, it's a straight shot on I-81, and Sherando always has to schedule several out of state opponents so I think it'd be attractive to them too.

I mean it's like I said, if we're willing to head up the road every other year for a trip like we are with Dinwiddie I see no reason why not to schedule someone and yea, a middling team would be best. Doesn't need to be LC Bird, just someone who will win 5-6 games and do more for us than a 3-7 3A team or something of the sort.

 

[wikki]

A game or two left to play, but this is what I got...

1. Woodgrove 29.3
2. Amherst 25.5
3. Millbrook 25.4
4. Salem 25.16
5. Byrd 25.16
6. Pulaski 24.6
7. Glass 24.5
8. Champe 24.3
9. GW 24
10. Heritage 23.67
11. Dominion 23.4
12. Charlottesville 23.16

13. LV 22.67

If playoffs were today, does the number 1 seed play the 12th seed or do some get byes

 

[Hoofprint]

Top 4 get bye. 5 plays 12 and so on.

 

[Flexable]

Amherst will pick up 36 points for a win over Appomattox this year. FC would have to win 5 games to get us 36 points. We just need our opponents to win some games, that's what's hurting us the most. CS, HV , Bburg, Cburg, CC, and even NS this year. 11 wins from those 6 schools

I think Appomattox will beat Amherst. How many points will the Lancers get for losing to an undefeated Appomattox team?

 

[Hoofprint]

16. 6 for losing to a 2a and 10 for their 10 wins

 

[Bulldogs_to_flames]

LCA has 4 loses right now, all 4 loses are against really good teams ( 2 undefeated in martinsburg and Benedictine, 1 loss team in Amherst, and an under achieving bishop Sullivan which is probably the most talented team in the state). With that being said, the upcoming schedule has a 1 win fork union team which I think is equivalent to a 2a public, a 3 win 6a team in Franklin county, and a 3-4 win 5a team in norview. If LCA is win out and the rest of their previous points win is it possible that LCA sneaks into the playoffs as a 5-4 team just off points (Franklin county and norview will carry a lot of points)?

 

[hamspear]

Salem should definitely pick up a 5A William Fleming. Outside of WF and FC, I'm not sure what other 5A/6A options are realistic. I think there's a slight chance that a Loudoun County 5A school would schedule Salem, which I'd love to see, but not a great one. Another possibility would be a newly opening 5A/6A school in need of games, though that might not generate many playoff points.

After the Dinwiddie series, I'd recommend a Sherando-Salem series, particularly if/when the Warriors move up to 5A. Despite the distance, it's a straight shot on I-81, and Sherando always has to schedule several out of state opponents so I think it'd be attractive to them too.

Well Sherando will only be keeping Martinsburg on the schedule from out of state starting next season. We lost EV , Louisa, Fort hill, and no longer be playing the other two WV teams washington and Jefferson. I think part of it is because we have the new district approved up here, I know we picked up Broadway, Kettle Run, Fauquier , and got Liberty back on the schedule .think there is another school also. I am thinking with that schedule this year , we might have been right up there with tops in the west in Points. but that is what happens when you schedule the best available, if you lose it can bite you in the butt come playoff time. Oh Well this team was not championship caliber anyway, knew it was going to be a transitional year.

 

[DEVILSLB99]

16. 6 for losing to a 2a and 10 for their 10 wins

Incorrect. They will get 20.. 6 for losing to a 2a but 4 extra points for playing down 2 divisions. Then 1 point for each win.

 

[dringtuoti]

Incorrect. They will get 20.. 6 for losing to a 2a but 4 extra points for playing down 2 divisions. Then 1 point for each win.

I thought you only got the bonus points for playing down if they are in your district.

 

[DEVILSLB99]

I thought you only got the bonus points for playing down if they are in your district.

They eliminated all that district mess this year. So whenever you lose or beat a team you get the full points as if they were a team in your division. So for 4A no matter who they play down they gonna get 22 for a win and 10 for a loss.

 

[dringtuoti]

Thanks