GAME THREAD West Virginia vs. N.C. State

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Disagree with some of your assessment. Kirby Smart has things clicking at UGA, UCF hasn't missed a beat, Texas is on the rise (or so they'd have us believe), Les Miles is turning things around....

I think that the coaches that have early success do it because they're willing to adapt to the talent that's on the team and not try to force a system onto players that are suited for that system (see Chip Kelly).

What I hope we're seeing is a coach that is willing to pivot, use the talent he has, and adapt accordingly - I think that's a smart move.

This team will also only go as far as Kendall's talent will take it and unless we can produce some seven foot tall receivers, we're in some trouble.
I doubt someone like you would have said Kansas had things turned around after losing to Coastal Carolina a week ago. What was kirby smarts record in year 1?
 

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You ran the entire team into the gutter - so easy there with any criticism. Oh and I did mention that our secondary was good and so were the rbs. Your query was about nfl talent so suck eggs.
This is a young team with a new coach and new system. That is not a recipe for immediate success. There are talented players at certain positions but not enough to expect championship level results. You never named one player when asked all you did was avoid the question. But hey that's what trolls do isn't it.
 

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Yes but richt last season was 9-3 so it was a step back. BTW last year we had an NFL QB what about this year?

Ummmm you went from a dude that had a few seasons under his belt (at QB) to a true freshman - I think 8-5 is acceptable

Oh btw, who recruited Kendall?
 

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This is a young team with a new coach and new system. That is not a recipe for immediate success. There are talented players at certain positions but not enough to expect championship level results. You never named one player when asked all you did was avoid the question. But hey that's what trolls do isn't it.
Why can’t you just admit you were wrong....what’s so difficult about that?
 

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Ummmm you went from a dude that had a few seasons under his belt (at QB) to a true freshman - I think 8-5 is acceptable

Oh btw, who recruited Kendall?
You went from a 3rd round NFL draft pick to a guy that had been nothing more than a back up. 8-5 isn't acceptable at Georgia considering they fired a guy who went 9-3 the year before.
 

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Why can’t you just admit you were wrong....what’s so difficult about that?
Im not wrong about anything I explain my position. you duck and weave like a typical troll. So since were on the subject of other teams what do you say to that whiny crybaby at Houston who is complaining today? Second time I have asked you this.
 

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Im not wrong about anything I explain my position. you duck and weave like a typical troll. So since were on the subject of other teams what do you say to that whiny crybaby at Houston who is complaining today? Second time I have asked you this.
Are you and Allen somehow related?

CMR didn't get fired because he had a 9-3 season, he got fired because he had another 9-3 season. Which, according to you, is the same reason why DH got fired from WVU. So not sure what your point is?

And so Kirby only had 8 wins his first season with a true freshman at the helm. By all accounts that's a good season for a new coach, with a new system, and a brand new QB. Not sure exactly what your point is with the whole UGA thing, but whatever it is, it's a loser

Speaking of unanswered questions, you still haven't answered the basic question: does this team have talent? Last week you were bemoaning the fact that DH left this team w/o talent. Do you stand by that statement and if not why not? Simple question.

And why do I care what DH does or doesn't do? Not obsessed with him and he's not or coach......soooooooooo have fun with that.
 
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Disagree with some of your assessment. Kirby Smart has things clicking at UGA, UCF hasn't missed a beat, Texas is on the rise (or so they'd have us believe), Les Miles is turning things around....

I think that the coaches that have early success do it because they're willing to adapt to the talent that's on the team and not try to force a system onto players that are suited for that system (see Chip Kelly).

What I hope we're seeing is a coach that is willing to pivot, use the talent he has, and adapt accordingly - I think that's a smart move.

This team will also only go as far as Kendall's talent will take it and unless we can produce some seven foot tall receivers, we're in some trouble.

I can't speak to your specific examples as I am not familiar enough to speak intelligently about much outside of the Mountaineers. All I'll say is it's not a fair comparison to Brown if those teams are blue bloods with top 30 recruiting classes year in and year out or they hired a coach from within the system already like OSU or OU. All I know is WVU had a head coach that seemed to not know enough about defense or special teams to oversee those units as a head coach. A coach with a come in at 9a and leave at 3p with an extra long lunch mentality. A coach that hardly ever adjusted at half time. A coach that didn't think it was necessary to improve after the 2nd or 3rd game. A coach that could never adapt his system to what he had given his QB recruits. So, I'm okay with growing pains if players adopted the mentality/personality of the former head coach and must be broken of it. Get rid of any vestiges of that man's lax, fly by the seat of your pants taint on the program.
 

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Are you and Allen somehow related?

CMR didn't get fired because he had a 9-3 season, he got fired because he had another 9-3 season. Which, according to you, is the same reason why DH got fired from WVU. So not sure what your point is?

And so Kirby only had 8 wins his first season with a true freshman at the helm. By all accounts that's a good season for a new coach, with a new system, and a brand new QB. Not sure exactly what your point is with the whole UGA thing, but whatever it is, it's a loser

Speaking of unanswered questions, you still haven't answered the basic question: does this team have talent? Last week you were bemoaning the fact that DH left this team w/o talent. Do you stand by that statement and if not why not? Simple question.

And why do I care what DH does or doesn't do? Not obsessed with him and he's not or coach......soooooooooo have fun with that.
I have answered it many times. You won't answer the question because it destroys your trolling agenda.
 

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I can't speak to your specific examples as I am not familiar enough to speak intelligently about much outside of the Mountaineers. All I'll say is it's not a fair comparison to Brown if those teams are blue bloods with top 30 recruiting classes year in and year out or they hired a coach from within the system already like OSU or OU. All I know is WVU had a head coach that seemed to not know enough about defense or special teams to oversee those units as a head coach. A coach with a come in at 9a and leave at 3p with an extra long lunch mentality. A coach that hardly ever adjusted at half time. A coach that didn't think it was necessary to improve after the 2nd or 3rd game. A coach that could never adapt his system to what he had given his QB recruits. So, I'm okay with growing pains if players adopted the mentality/personality of the former head coach and must be broken of it. Get rid of any vestiges of that man's lax, fly by the seat of your pants taint on the program.

I’m not comparing Brown to anyone. When I see a crap performance (like last week) I call it a crap performance and find all the excuse making (by the fans not the coaching staff) to be laughable. Esp. Then the “fans’ of this program proudly declare that there isn’t a shred of talent on this team.
 

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So you don't our QB is up to snuff? Get over yourself! The kid can chuck the ball and also runs very well.
 
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Kendall needs more playing time. He has some ability. One is the attempt to make something happen. Works for Oklahoma because they have an OLine and a lot of speed at WR.

Just needs the confidence. He can go through his progressions on the run.
Very difficult for even some of the strongest arm QBs.
This has become what you grade QBs on over arm strength.
Arm strength and the ability to take off and run are just pluses
 
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Kendall needs more playing time. He has some ability. One is the attempt to make something happen. Works for Oklahoma because they have an OLine and a lot of speed at WR.

Just needs the confidence. He can go through his progressions on the run.
Very difficult for even some of the strongest arm QBs.
This has become what you grade QBs on over arm strength.
Arm strength and the ability to take off and run are just pluses
Meh, don’t know how much arm strength helps when the ball sails over everyone’s head or lands 5 yards beyond the open receiver. I’m hoping Brown and Co., spend the bye week (after the KU game) to work on his accuracy
 
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Meh, don’t know how much arm strength helps when the ball sails over everyone’s head or lands 5 yards beyond the open receiver. I’m hoping Brown and Co., spend the bye week (after the KU game) to work on his accuracy

That is timing.
Cannot expect college players who have started only a few games to have everything together.
Plus OU hasn't developed a QB yet under Lincoln Riley. They have relied on transfers. Their QBs who leave aren't there yet.
 
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You are talking about some great throws.
You see a lot of misses like that in college football. Even the NFL with some that need to be rewired.

It is confidence. Get his timing it will help with the ability to make these throws.
 

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Kendall is not accurate Yeah he throws a good one here and there, who doesnt, but way too many bad ones that are easy throws. And his attitude. He starts calling out his receivers saying come back or whatever after he throws it 20 yards over their head. There are a few throws clearly that he can make and a few, even some easy ones, that he just cant, even though it cripples the offense they're just going to have to limit the playbook
 
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Matters the team and the situation.

You can't limit a QB when there is a chance you go down 21-0.
Then you are stuck without an offense relying on a QB who hasn't gotten his rhythm to carry you

QBs get better with more throws when they can understand a defense and can go through their progressions.
 

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You are talking about some great throws.
You see a lot of misses like that in college football. Even the NFL with some that need to be rewired.

It is confidence. Get his timing it will help with the ability to make these throws.
At this level, he needs to make more throws than he’ currently making. If we want to be competitive, he needs to make more throws than he’s making. He needs to work on his accuracy
 
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At this level, he needs to make more throws than he’ currently making. If we want to be competitive, he needs to make more throws than he’s making. He needs to work on his accuracy

That is obvious. I think college players are there to improve and turn into that professional who works on their craft.
Difference between an average and great QB.
 

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All I know is that we are 2-1. Which is exactly where most of us thought we would be.

First two games were uglier than we thought they would be. But the third game was way better than I thought it would be.

Onward and ...
 

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Kendall is not accurate Yeah he throws a good one here and there, who doesnt, but way too many bad ones that are easy throws. And his attitude. He starts calling out his receivers saying come back or whatever after he throws it 20 yards over their head. There are a few throws clearly that he can make and a few, even some easy ones, that he just cant, even though it cripples the offense they're just going to have to limit the playbook

Show me a QB that doesn't throw it over the heads of a receiver. Even the supposed NFL QB Will Grier threw over receivers heads. At least Kendall knows how to chuck it into the stands when nobody is open.

Yes sure the guy isn't the greatest but he is sufficient. He is also still learning the new system as is the entire offense.
 

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That is obvious. I think college players are there to improve and turn into that professional who works on their craft.
Difference between an average and great QB.
He doesn’t pass the eye test and let’s be honest, there’s a reason why he was a career backup. Kendall may have been a fine backup, but as a weekly starter....he needs to improve......a lot.
 
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He doesn’t pass the eye test and let’s be honest, there’s a reason why he was a career backup. Kendall may have been a fine backup, but as a weekly starter....he needs to improve......a lot.

You are just looking to troll.
At least troll with something relevant and interesting.
What is happening with WV at the QB position is going to happen. They aren't there yet as a program to win with any QB. More importantly they need a QB to win at a high level. This is pretty much the truth now with all teams. Won't get near the NC unless you have QB play now.
What you saw with Bama before Tua won't happen again. Reason why Bama brought in a QB. They are even QB dependent.