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jwheat

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meeks is trying to force everyone into his stone age views. if he doesn't want to buy beer in his county, nobody should be able to. why don't we just prohibit the sale of all the foods that you dislike too?
 

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I guess we can agree to disagree. Most arguments I have ever heard at some point turns into...I hate having to drive all the way to (insert closest wet county here) because I should just be able to get it at the store.

And you know what? That's a perfectly valid reason because alcohol is legal and adults should have the choice to buy a legal product in their hometown if they want.
 

larry the cable guy

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meeks is trying to force everyone into his stone age views. if he doesn't want to buy beer in his county, nobody should be able to. why don't we just prohibit the sale of all the foods that you dislike too?

Where have I said you have to believe or think what I think. To the contrary I said differing opinions is what makes things interesting in this world. I have stated my opinion about what it will or will not do to your town's economic situation. I don't know if you are a liberal democrat but you would make a good candidate for one if you are not. When somebody says something you don't agree with just call them names, insult their intelligence or imply they are living in the dark ages. That is the liberal way.

And you know what? That's a perfectly valid reason because alcohol is legal and adults should have the choice to buy a legal product in their hometown if they want.

You are correct it is a valid reason and no where did I say it wasn't. As I have said several times in this thread if that is their reason then fine, just own it but don't act like they really care or think any of the other stuff will happen such as a boom in the economy or jobs.
 

larry the cable guy

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Everything you typed here is your opinion and nothing more. That's fine, you're entitled to it.

No one in this thread has implied that making a county wet solves all it's problems. Like I said in an earlier post, it starts with competent leadership. It sounds like you don't have much faith in yours, so maybe you should consider running for office. Otherwise, you come across as someone who just likes to complain.

You said "if I owned a business..." Do you? I suspect not, because if you did and you weren't morally against the sale of alcohol, then your opinion on the matter would likely be far different (and more informed).


The only problem with my county and most around me is when a good person runs for the office they rarely get in unless they are willing to buy votes...yes I know that is against the law but if you think it doesn't happen in small town KY you are delusional. Oh and by the way I did run for a local office once a few years ago and I didn't win. In case you were wondering I didn't buy votes.
 

Boyd_Givens

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So...meeksfor3 says he doesn't drink but goes on to say that he doesn't care either way on alcohol sales. He then points out correctly, that alcohol sales in small counties are not going to suddenly bring in hundreds of jobs and then gets slammed for "trying to force stone age views on people." OK.

I agree with meeksfor3 in that the pro-alcohol sales folks need to just own it and say it's to make buying something that's already legal more convenient. Not a thing wrong with that. I agree that it will also bring in some tax revenue but you are kidding yourself if you think Cheddar's or some chain like that is going locate in the metropolis of Burkesville. The population simply isn't there to support it. Alcohol sales might bring 30 jobs at the most to somewhere like Burkesville and most of those jobs will be part time minimum wage jobs.

From earlier in the thread: Yes, Belden in T'ville closed a few years ago. Belden announced that the Monticello plant will be closing by the middle of '17. I expect Rocore in Burkesville to close in the next couple of years as well. Honeywell owns that building and has put it up for sale and some of Rocore's customers are closing plants and moving operations to Mexico. It's only a matter of time.
 

jwheat

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Now I would like for you to find where I said it would bring a cheddars or anything besides tourist money and tax dollars into our county. Try reading the whole thread next time, sir
 

allabouttheUK

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It takes more than just allowing the sale of alcohol in a town to really give it a boost. Danville and Lawrenceburg for comparison. Lawrenceburg used to be the "last stop for 100 miles" on U.S. 127. Alcohol sales haven't really had a visible impact on that community. Then you have Danville, they allowed sales 10 or so years ago and the city has grown since, BUT they also have more going it for it. They have more manufacturers, strong medical presence as their seems to be a clinic on every other block, and last but certainly not least...CENTRE College!
So two towns that before alcohol sales weren't much different, but because of what Danville already had in place the alcohol sales was like an injection of adrenaline. Danvile also recently put in a Cheddars..just sayin.
 

Boyd_Givens

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Now I would like for you to find where I said it would bring a cheddars or anything besides tourist money and tax dollars into our county. Try reading the whole thread next time, sir

Did I refer specifically to you in any way concerning chains like Cheddars? Nope. Learn reading comprehension bud.

I was referring to this:

The average chain restaurant has 55-65 employees. High volume places like chedders or Fridays may have 75. granted not all jobs are full time. But if a town gets two restaurants easily could bring 100 jobs.
 

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I don't want it passed for my convenience. I want it passed in every country of every state because prohibition is ******** and only creates more crime and problems. That, and being forced to live by the rules of a religion I don't follow also is bovine excrement.
 
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Please refer to the KY booze map I made:
What the hell am i looking at?
 

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Pulaski is dry but Somerset is wet. The city has really benefited from this. New restaurants have and are still being built. Super Kroger should be done this late Summer. Executives from Target and Sams Club have interest in the area. Manufacturing and factory jobs pay $15-$22 a hour.
 

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The only thing you hear from people who don't want it passed is they have some false vision that their town instantly becomes debauchery filled and people are stumbling around like the walking dead they are so drunk...nope.
 

jwheat

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I don't want it passed for my convenience. I want it passed in every country of every state because prohibition is ******** and only creates more crime and problems. That, and being forced to live by the rules of a religion I don't follow also is bovine excrement.


:pray::pray:
 

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Not saying I disagree with those that are making arguments for the sale of alcohol in what are now dry areas, but if you feel that strongly about it why not just move to a wet area?

Somerset is an interesting town/city to me. It's out of the way, doesn't have a real draw to it, yet it continues to expand. It also houses offices for a couple of federal agencies which has always struck me as odd. I'm guess it's expansion has more to do with being the gateway to Bowling Green and Lake Cumberland near by?
 

jwheat

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Not saying I disagree with those that are making arguments for the sale of alcohol in what are now dry areas, but if you feel that strongly about it why not just move to a wet area?
I start to like you a little as a poster and a human being, but then you post some **** like this.

update: we only needed 300 signatures of registered voters for it to be put on the ballot. committee meeting Monday to gather up those signatures then it will go to the court house. three months down the road it should be put on the ballot.
 

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I start to like you a little as a poster and a human being, but then you post some **** like this.

update: we only needed 300 signatures of registered voters for it to be put on the ballot. committee meeting Monday to gather up those signatures then it will go to the court house. three months down the road it should be put on the ballot.

I guess you took what I said too personal. My point is if I don't like the way something is done, and I know I'm in the minority then I go to where I'm a part of the majority. I'm not saying you are complaining in the least, and agree with a lot of what you have said. I'm just saying I never complained about Mercer being dry, and had no problem driving 10 or 20 miles to get beer or liquor, that's all.

Where did you say you were located, TB? Just curious as to the makeup of your County.
 

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It is an absurdity for any government agency to ban alcohol and/or marijuana sales in any county in any state, anywhere.

Oh, you can buy cigarettes but alcohol and marijuana can't be sold? Absurd and hypocritical.
 

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It is an absurdity for any government agency to ban alcohol and/or marijuana sales in any county in any state, anywhere.

Oh, you can buy cigarettes but alcohol and marijuana can't be sold? Absurd and hypocritical.

Nowadays it's not a government agency that's banning the sale of alcohol, it's the people in the given area. It's all about the county demographics. Alcohol was voted on in my county for the past 15 years, and now it looks like we are finally going wet after several years of being damp.
 

jwheat

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I guess you took what I said too personal. My point is if I don't like the way something is done, and I know I'm in the minority then I go to where I'm a part of the majority. I'm not saying you are complaining in the least, and agree with a lot of what you have said. I'm just saying I never complained about Mercer being dry, and had no problem driving 10 or 20 miles to get beer or liquor, that's all.

Where did you say you were located, TB? Just curious as to the makeup of your County.
Burkesville, Cumberland County

population >7000

We seem to be getting a lot of good vibes from people and Im not so sure that I am in the majority anymore. Nearly every business owner is supporting going wet. When the word gets out though and the preachers start preaching against it on sundays it will be a different story.
 

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Burkesville, Cumberland County

population >7000

We seem to be getting a lot of good vibes from people and Im not so sure that I am in the majority anymore. Nearly every business owner is supporting going wet. When the word gets out though and the preachers start preaching against it on sundays it will be a different story.

Yeah, you guys have tourism to use in the fight for going wet. Won't be an easy fight with the older crowd and the hardcore church goers. It could really boost you guys though, and that might frighten the people who don't want their community to change. I'd definitely make tourism one of my talking points about going wet, and the boost it would bring economically.
 

jwheat

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If we don't pass it our beautiful lake may be in trouble. Lake Cumberland has it now that any dock on the lake can sell alcohol. That's really sad because Dale Hollow is 2 to 1 a better lake than Lake Cumberland
 

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What the hell am i looking at?
Relief sculpture for above my mantle (approx. 42" wide).

It is made from 2" thick wood that has been CNC milled to show the individual counties. The top facet of each county cants in one of four different directions depending its alcohol laws: wet counties to the left, dry counties to the right, damp down, etc.
 

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Boy after reading this thread I didn't even realize there were still dry counties. Don't know how you guys manage to live in these small rural towns, just isn't for me. My god. [sick]

I don't care who drinks booze as long as they stay off the highways and don't abuse their families. But it does amaze me that the availability of alcohol nearby is something important enough in one's life that people sit around and think about it.
 

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The average chain restaurant has 55-65 employees. High volume places like chedders or Fridays may have 75. granted not all jobs are full time. But if a town gets two restaurants easily could bring 100 jobs.

But you are kidding yourself if you believe a high end chain restaurant providing lots of jobs is coming to a small town not near an interstate simply because they can sell booze.
 

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Somerset is an interesting town/city to me. It's out of the way, doesn't have a real draw to it, yet it continues to expand. It also houses offices for a couple of federal agencies which has always struck me as odd. I'm guess it's expansion has more to do with being the gateway to Bowling Green and Lake Cumberland near by?

Somerset is not that far from I-75 (a lot of industry is located in the eastern part of the county closer to I-75) and there is the Cumberland Parkway running west towards Bowling Green. Pulaski County is right on Lake Cumberland which is a huge draw for tourism and it's the 3rd largest county in area in Kentucky with a population of over 60K.

Pulaski also prides itself in that it has cheesy Doctors from Lexington that spend the weekends on their boats (boats and hoes!!) at Lee's Ford.....should have gone wet decades ago.
 

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Somerset is not that far from I-75 (a lot of industry is located in the eastern part of the county closer to I-75) and there is the Cumberland Parkway running west towards Bowling Green. Pulaski County is right on Lake Cumberland which is a huge draw for tourism and it's the 3rd largest county in area in Kentucky with a population of over 60K.

Pulaski also prides itself in that it has cheesy Doctors from Lexington that spend the weekends on their boats (boats and hoes!!) at Lee's Ford.....should have gone wet decades ago.

Used to drive thru Somerset on my way to Scott County, TN. It seems like a nice town, just always found it odd how isolated it was for it's size. I agree that the lake, and the connector to Bowling Green are big factors. I forgot about 75 to the east...that's a beautiful drive too from Somerset over to 75.
 

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People should just man up and just say that they want to live in a wet county for the convenience of getting their booze.
People should also man up and say they have no reason why it shouldn't be wet...if you don't drink, you still don't have to if it's wet.
 

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People should also man up and say they have no reason why it shouldn't be wet...if you don't drink, you still don't have to if it's wet.

A non-issue with me. I haven't lived in a dry county in more than 50 years. As I said, I don't care if others drink as long as they stay off the roads when they are drinking and don't abuse their family or other people.

Alcohol. Many defenders - no defense.
 

larry the cable guy

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Not saying I disagree with those that are making arguments for the sale of alcohol in what are now dry areas, but if you feel that strongly about it why not just move to a wet area?

Somerset is an interesting town/city to me. It's out of the way, doesn't have a real draw to it, yet it continues to expand. It also houses offices for a couple of federal agencies which has always struck me as odd. I'm guess it's expansion has more to do with being the gateway to Bowling Green and Lake Cumberland near by?

Hal Rogers having an office in Somerset and being from the region doesn't hurt.
 

jwheat

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We had more than enough signatures on the petition to get it put on the ballot. Everything has been sent to Frankfort and we should be getting an official date soon. Tentative date was like mid July or something like that.
 

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We had more than enough signatures on the petition to get it put on the ballot. Everything has been sent to Frankfort and we should be getting an official date soon. Tentative date was like mid July or something like that.

Nice work. Now the most important part is getting your voters to actually show up when it counts. It sounds cliche, but every one of their votes will matter. The opposition will bus people to the polls if they have to.