what am i missing about um football ?

duggerdog

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
43
0
0
they won 6 sec games last year (best team they beat was msu what's that tell you) and 0-8 nutt's last year. now the rev's gottem thinking a 9 or 10 game (wins) season. their qb threw 4 more td's than int's something like 23 / 19 AND had major surgery in the spring. what gives?
 

cheewgumm

Redshirt
Sep 15, 2012
792
0
0
I would be optimisitic if I were them. They almost beat some good teams and looked good. And they are improving their talent level. We should take it as seriously as is possible.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

All-American
Nov 12, 2007
25,524
9,728
113
I would be optimisitic if I were them. They almost beat some good teams and looked good. And they are improving their talent level. We should take it as seriously as is possible.

Absolutely correct. They have talent and played much better last season.

However...

Aug. 31
Vanderbilt*Nashville, Tenn.
Sept. 7
Southeast MissouriOxford
Sept. 14
TexasAustin, Texas
Sept. 28Alabama*Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Oct. 5Auburn*Auburn, Ala.
Oct. 12Texas A&M*Oxford
Oct. 19LSU*Oxford
Oct. 26
Idaho (HC)
Oxford
Nov. 9Arkansas*Oxford
Nov. 16
TroyOxford
Nov. 23Missouri*Oxford
Nov. 30Mississippi State*Starkville, Miss.

<tbody>
</tbody>

That 5 game run is going to be tough as hell.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,426
18,843
113
The fact they were projected to win about 2-3 games and they won 7. It's momentum for their program. They have excitement.

Like Mullen has said about our program now, unfortunately - 6-7 wins doesn't excite our fanbase anymore which can be a good thing.
 

Dawg Jurist

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
429
0
16
If our team had finished the season playing with the same level of intensity . .

and excitement as Ole Miss did last year, I would be optimistic as hell about our season. Even if we still finished with the same record. I, personally, think Ole Miss will have a let down year of epic proportions. However, I do understand their optimism. We were optimistic after Mullen's 2009 season, and we didn't even go to a bowl.
 

coach66

Junior
Mar 5, 2009
12,691
311
83
If they get off to a good start then I think they will have a very good year.

Their offensive and defensive schemes worked well last year and their
players and coaches were on the same page. They also played with
great effort the entire year. There is plenty of reason for optimism in their
camp but if things don't go their way early they could struggle to win six.

Right now their fans are really supporting the team and the recruiting and it
is getting results, we could learn from them in this area. Our Marketing to recruits
badly lags, they treat them like rock stars and will do just about anything within reason*
to land them. We on the other hand tell them how hard they are going to have to work
while constantly worrying about compliance. This doesn't lead to the same atmosphere.
 
Last edited:

TSUNBearHunter

Redshirt
Aug 24, 2012
400
0
0
they won 6 sec games last year (best team they beat was msu what's that tell you) and 0-8 nutt's last year. now the rev's gottem thinking a 9 or 10 game (wins) season. their qb threw 4 more td's than int's something like 23 / 19 AND had major surgery in the spring. what gives?

Most realistic OM fans would tell you that 5 wins would be worst case scenario. And 8 wins would be best case scenario. 6-7 wins would be a reasonable prediction, with 6 being the most likely. Freeze isn't making anyone believe this. If anything, he has pour-mouthed and downplayed expectations.

Anybody predicting 9-10 wins is just being a blind homer. Both of our fan bases have the types that say this thing.
 

Faustdog

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
3,968
2,209
113
they won 6 sec games last year (best team they beat was msu what's that tell you) and 0-8 nutt's last year. now the rev's gottem thinking a 9 or 10 game (wins) season. their qb threw 4 more td's than int's something like 23 / 19 AND had major surgery in the spring. what gives?

The did not win six SEC games last year. They won three.
 

Dawg Jurist

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
429
0
16
You should have bolded game 1 too.

Until they beat Vandy, I will consider Ole Miss to be Vandy's *****.
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
15,926
0
36
No doubt

winning 6 regular season games, when predicted to win three, is a great accomplishment. However, I'm not sure most people expected Arkansas and Auburn to have their two worst teams in the past 15 years.
 

RougeDawg

Redshirt
Jul 12, 2010
1,474
0
0
^^This^^ paired with the fact that most teams expected the same intensity of the

winning 6 regular season games, when predicted to win three, is a great accomplishment. However, I'm not sure most people expected Arkansas and Auburn to have their two worst teams in the past 15 years.

Nuttstains, and didnt think they had to put much effort into beating OM last year. Hence teams actually having to try in the 2nd halves and coming from behind a few times. Similar to the **** Croom teams jumping up and beating a Florida or Alabama who had a ton more talent. Those teams looked at us as a small step up from a "helmets only" walk through and we slipped up on them, got a large lead, and they didn't have enough ticks on the clock to recover.

Teams looked at OM last year, us included, in the same fashion. Suit up, kick off, take the W and go get BJ's from their sorority girls on the walk back to team bus.
 

Heawww

Redshirt
Jun 15, 2013
912
0
0
I don't even buy that. Cover up the hail mary tosses to Moncrief (which Wilson couldn't do with 2 NFL corners) and you've got a lot of that offense covered.
 

Heawww

Redshirt
Jun 15, 2013
912
0
0
You may not like his context, but the point absolutely rings true. You did not have a bullseye on your back last year and many people were asleep vs. you guys. Texas A&M (17 turnovers), LSU and MSU come to mind. Come on, only your pride is clouding the clear view of this.
 

RebFan.sixpack

Redshirt
Mar 22, 2013
306
0
0
When MSU gets turnovers, they're earned and forced. When OM gets 'em the other team gave 'em to us. I get it. I know the drill. What I hear is a bunch of hoping and wishing that the media isn't right about us. My view is cloudy but you and that other moron are actually trying to define what you believe to be our opponents mindsets from last yr? If it makes you feel better to believe that, go ahead with your idiotic delusions, but I see right through that ********
 

cheewgumm

Redshirt
Sep 15, 2012
792
0
0
If we were asleep agaisnt them, then we have a problem.

Anyone who watched them last year can see how much better they have gotten. We have to be better still, and that is up to Dan.

You may not like his context, but the point absolutely rings true. You did not have a bullseye on your back last year and many people were asleep vs. you guys. Texas A&M (17 turnovers), LSU and MSU come to mind. Come on, only your pride is clouding the clear view of this.
 

RougeDawg

Redshirt
Jul 12, 2010
1,474
0
0
Come on, you really think an OM fan to see reality or have a logical thought...

You may not like his context, but the point absolutely rings true. You did not have a bullseye on your back last year and many people were asleep vs. you guys. Texas A&M (17 turnovers), LSU and MSU come to mind. Come on, only your pride is clouding the clear view of this.

Regarding anything regarding OM? This is the main reason people dislike them as a whole. Never accept and acknowledge reality, which is why I cannot hold long conversations with them. When you bring logic into it and explain why you developed your logical thought based on facts and observations and it paints their beloved bears in a non positive light they cannot accept it. They then begin to conceive some distraught delusional far fetched unfathomable reason that things occurred the way they did or will happen in the future.


As for the original post, I think what you have missed about OM football is one of Hugh's righteous sermons where he connects you to God and brainwashes you into believing that OM will soon move into the NFC south.**
 

Heawww

Redshirt
Jun 15, 2013
912
0
0
I don't think it's any secret that we had a problem last year. And the biggest part of that (and the dissention he created) is now in Athens, GA.
 
Last edited:

Heawww

Redshirt
Jun 15, 2013
912
0
0
I didn't say anything about MSU and turnovers. Our 2010 season was somewhat due to us getting overlooked by Georgia and Florida. No secret there.

Sorry I'm not telling you what you want to hear. But it's still true.
 

RebFan.sixpack

Redshirt
Mar 22, 2013
306
0
0
Your logic involves the knowing the mindset of our opponents from last yr, and my logic is being questioned? Again, do you really believe what you post? It has to be a special type of moron to claim to know the collective mindset of each team OM played last yr. Ok, we're gonna suck. Don't believe the hype. Better?
 

os62

Heisman
Mar 18, 2003
10,642
16,852
48
I don't even buy that. Cover up the hail mary tosses to Moncrief (which Wilson couldn't do with 2 NFL corners) and you've got a lot of that offense covered.

Hail Mary tosses? Really?!? Did you watch the game??
 

RebFan.sixpack

Redshirt
Mar 22, 2013
306
0
0
Well if that's the case in 2010 then those 2 teams overlooked a few more didn't they? Don't remember GA but didn't FLA lose 5 that yr? You aren't "telling" me anything. You are hoping what you say is true...period.
 

Heawww

Redshirt
Jun 15, 2013
912
0
0
Sounds like a personal problem. Are you telling me you can't watch a game and easily tell which team is fired up and ready to plan? I can.
 

Heawww

Redshirt
Jun 15, 2013
912
0
0
Wrong. Now you are grasping at details to try and find one instance where I am wrong. In general, you KNOW I am right.
 

Philly Dawg

All-American
Oct 6, 2012
12,148
6,716
113
There was nothing Hail Mary about it. Wilson had the safeties so deep that we were effectively playing 9 on 11. They kept going into that space and picking up 15-25 yards a pop. OM did get the benefit of an huge number of yards after the catch from a stud receiver, but he'll be back, so I'm not sure I see the point.
 

RockstarFromMars

Redshirt
Sep 11, 2012
978
0
0
We return nearly every starter and every back-up on both sides of the ball to a team that won 7 games, and was 10 points away from beating 3 more teams that finished in the top 25. Unfortunately our lack of depth got to us late in those games, and while we're still not too terribly deep, we should be deeper than we were last year. Add the recruiting class excitement, and voila, excited fanbase.

Unfortunately it's a rough schedule. Both Ole Miss and MSU could field much better teams and end up with equal or worse records than last year. Such is life in the SECW. If we can stay healthy, I can see Ole Miss getting to 8 with a shot at 9 in the postseason, though.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,426
18,843
113
In that case, we are 6-6. We both benefited from a down Arkansas and Auburn.

And I don't feel sorry for Arkansas and Auburn being down. One team has to be good and the other has to be bad. Teams have to be the bottom two teams in the West. We weren't a bad team last year. We were an 8 win team. Neither was Ole Miss which was shocking considering preseason expectations.
 
Last edited:

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,426
18,843
113
I actually watched part of all of your games last year live while they were going on.
 

RebFan.sixpack

Redshirt
Mar 22, 2013
306
0
0
Dumbass. I don't KNOW you're right. You don't KNOW you're right because there's no way for you to KNOW you're right. You may be convinced that you are but you can't KNOW what the collective mindset of a bunch of 18 to 22 yr old kids is on any given Saturday last season. I KNOW that you HOPE you are right, because the alternative is that Vegas and the media are right about us. You couldn't sleep well believing that, and I understand why. We'll find out soon enough
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
15,926
0
36
I agree that

we benefitted from those two team being down. No doutbt. My contention is where some think OM was good by beating them, and not saying you were or were not in that group. It's just that if people would have known how terrible Arkansas and Auburn were going to be, they may have predicted a few more wins for Mississippi, and thus not have been that impressive with them winning a game or so more that that hypothetical situation. It's no doubt, though, that Mississippi played better. This wasn't much a surprise to me, though. Mississippi's problem last year was from leadership, overall. They changed leaders and had better results. Nutt was a lame duck.
 

CadaverDawg

Redshirt
Dec 5, 2011
6,409
0
0
Dumbass. I don't KNOW you're right. You don't KNOW you're right because there's no way for you to KNOW you're right. You may be convinced that you are but you can't KNOW what the collective mindset of a bunch of 18 to 22 yr old kids is on any given Saturday last season. I KNOW that you HOPE you are right, because the alternative is that Vegas and the media are right about us. You couldn't sleep well believing that, and I understand why. We'll find out soon enough

Good God man, take a 17ing Xanax or something. Heawww has you blowing a damn gasket.

A lot of teams seemed to have overlooked you guys last year. If you can't admit that, oh well...doesn't make it less true. Can you not see how they would overlook you based on previous years and the 100 points you guys gave up to Texas? Wake up and join us in reality for a second. It will be okay.
 
Last edited:

thekimmer

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2012
8,078
2,095
113
Why not be optimistic? What do they have to lose?.....

they won 6 sec games last year (best team they beat was msu what's that tell you) and 0-8 nutt's last year. now the rev's gottem thinking a 9 or 10 game (wins) season. their qb threw 4 more td's than int's something like 23 / 19 AND had major surgery in the spring. what gives?

Its summer time. Right now everybody's record is umblemished so why not predict that you'll win every game? Plus they ended the last season on a high note and followed that up with an incredible (unbelievable one might say) recruiting class. I really don't blame them for being optimistic but we will see if they feel any different about mid-season.