So true. I just wish I had the chance to actually of earned it. I could of made a tapestry of vulgarity that was worthy of their dog ugly fans.
What?????--Book alleges UofL used escort services
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So true. I just wish I had the chance to actually of earned it. I could of made a tapestry of vulgarity that was worthy of their dog ugly fans.
You have Wildcat in your screen name. That's enough for those jackasses.
I think it might be a blanket for any fan that steelers has found on RR putting down the 'ville. He claims we are soooo much more vile
He's just mad that he can't understand us UK fans that well with his kindergarten reading level.
You guys want to know how full of crap they are over there. I got this from Easy Card (moderator)
"Rivals.com has no contractual authority regarding board moderation.
You have repeatedly broken board rules and even posted your intentions to use another IP to make your way back on to the board. A ban is a legal notification to remove you from private property. Any attempt to deceive your identity, including changing IP's, and return to this board is considered trespassing by law and could lead to potential prosecution.
This website considers this matter closed."
Thats what I got in response to asking why I was black listed. Did anyone see where I showed intent to change my IP and come back? because I think all that did is prove the guy has the reading level of a mental midget.
"Rivals.com has no contractual authority regarding board moderation.
You have repeatedly broken board rules and even posted your intentions to use another IP to make your way back on to the board. A ban is a legal notification to remove you from private property. Any attempt to deceive your identity, including changing IP's, and return to this board is considered trespassing by law and could lead to potential prosecution.
This website considers this matter closed."
Thats what I got in response to asking why I was black listed. Did anyone see where I showed intent to change my IP and come back? because I think all that did is prove the guy has the reading level of a mental midget.
Sure, my pleasure.
Hi ho, hi ho, it's out the 'Ville we go.....
Gotta love the black curtain look. Usually they've got that hideous birdteeth logo plastered everywhere.
You have repeatedly broken board rules and even posted your intentions to use another IP to make your way back on to the board. A ban is a legal notification to remove you from private property. Any attempt to deceive your identity, including changing IP's, and return to this board is considered trespassing by law and could lead to potential prosecution.
You have repeatedly broken board rules and even posted your intentions to use another IP to make your way back on to the board. A ban is a legal notification to remove you from private property. Any attempt to deceive your identity, including changing IP's, and return to this board is considered trespassing by law and could lead to potential prosecution.
Whats hilarious is he is twisting a post where we were debating likes on a rivals board... and I said I only have 10 likes on their board because my screen name has something UK in it.... Wildcat and "IF" I was to change my account and IP I could get more likes"
Easy Tard if you are reading this- contact the police and try to pursue a prosecution of that. [laughing] I swear you UL fans have the collective intelligence of a flea.
My guess is Steelers is on her cycle.
I need some legal advice. How much trouble can I get into if I post a picture of a UL moderator? Ooopsss too late....
Check this out from the hall...
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100% disagree. And I don't think you know what an appropriate penalty is because I don't think you've studied past NCAA violations extensively and their penalties. You don't know how many events at Minardi there were over what period of time, nor how much money changed hands. Even if it was to the degree that the ho said it was--$10,000 over four years--I doubt seriously that prior NCAA experience will show that this penalty is commensurate to that violation. You don't know what players were involved, and you don't know the key fact, whether players came here BECAUSE of an impermissible benefit. Too much stuff you don't know to have your degree of confidence.
If you replay Ramsey's remarks from a couple weeks ago, he does not use the word "significant" or "major" very often. I think his first utterance was simply "NCAA violation", and I don't think it was plural "violations". If this is eventually found to be a gross over-reaction to what we have already been told occurred, Ramsey will probably pay the ultimate price. And he should...
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The following was posted by fredburgcard...
OK fair enough. I didn't look at any other cases. So I went to the NCAA website and read their releases at the time sanctions were imposed on SMU and Syracuse.
Syracuse:
The NCAA found that programs at Syracuse, during the period 2001-12, engaged in NCAA violations. Specifically it found the men's bball program engaged in academic misconduct during the 05, 06, 07, 11 and 12 seasons; that it failed to properly implement its own drug testing program and that is allowed a booster to pay several thousand dollars to two bball players for volunteer work at a youth center. The academic misconduct involved a tutor falsely certifying that a player completed hours for an internship for which he got course credit, and the Director of Bball Operations and a receptionist performing course work for players.
Syracuse self-imposed a one-year post season ban last season in anticipation of NCAA sanctions. Smart move on their part as they were not going to play more than a game or two in the ACC and NIT tourneys anyway. In addition the NCAA vacated all bball wins for all of the involved seasons; took back all funds Syracuse received for participating in the Big East, and NCAA tournaments during those seasons; put the program on probation for 5 years; took away 3 scholarships a year for 4 years; and imposed a 9 game suspension on Boeheim. The release acknowledged there was no indication Boeheim was aware of what was going on but that he had failed to promote compliance and monitor his staff.
SMU:
The NCAA found that SMU engaged in academic fraud when a bball staffer arranged for an academically ineligible recruit to register for an on-line course and then took the course for him. The head coach (Brown) found out about this in 14 but didn't initially report it. The staffer initially lied about the misconduct and Brown initially lied during his interview but immediately corrected the lie during the interview.
SMU was given a one-year post season ban this year which is significant because SMU would likely be a high seed in this year's NCAA tournament and is currently at the top of the AAC. The NCAA vacated all wins in which the involved player participated and SMU has to return all post-season revenue received for the seasons that player played. SMU had previously self-imposed a one year loss of two scholarships. This was increased to a three year loss of three scholarships a year. SMU was put on probation for 3 years; Brown was suspended for 30% of one season; and recruiting restrictions were imposed.
As zipp noted none of us have any idea right now what the NCAA will find happened at UofL. I assume even the NCAA doesn't yet know because they haven't completed their investigation. My point in my earlier post was that even what most of us would believe is a best case scenario is a serious NCAA violation. If the head of basketball operations at UofL paid money to provide strippers to entertain recruits and players at a university facility that is an impermissible benefit. Players who receive impermissible benefits are usually ruled ineligible or are suspended for a period of time. I looked and I could not find anything on the NCAA website that indicates the NCAA must find that the impermissible benefit led the player to do anything. All that apparently has to be shown is that there be an impermissible benefit. Unless this was a one-time event, and what I've read to date doesn't lead me to conclude that's the case, the school and Pitino are likely to be found at fault for failing to set up adequate safeguards to prevent it, stop it and then report it.
If what Pitino said last week is true Jurich made the recommendation to Ramsey to self-impose the post season ban this year. I don't see why Pitino would lie about that. I don't see why Jurich would have made this recommendation to Ramsey unless he had a pretty good belief that Louisville was looking at some pretty severe penalties based upon what UofL's investigation has already found happened. Note that both Syracuse and SMU had to vacate wins where players who had received impermissible benefits played. I suspect some players who played on the 12 and 13 teams might be found to have attended one of these shows. If that is the case the NCAA could vacate the wins in those seasons and we all know what that means. I don't equate watching strippers to be the same level of benefit as having someone else do course work that makes a player academically eligible to play. UofL can now make the argument that by self-imposing a ban this year when it has a very good team it has already taken a significant hit and that vacating wins (as was imposed on SMU and Syracuse) is not necessary here. While I don't have a lot of respect for Ramsey I do respect Jurich's apparent judgement that UofL is better off biting the bullet now rather than wait for the NCAA to act.
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He not only blasted Zipp out of the water, he gives a very good glimpse into the future of ul men's basketball. The hit is going to be massive.
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100% disagree. And I don't think you know what an appropriate penalty is because I don't think you've studied past NCAA violations extensively and their penalties. You don't know how many events at Minardi there were over what period of time, nor how much money changed hands. Even if it was to the degree that the ho said it was--$10,000 over four years--I doubt seriously that prior NCAA experience will show that this penalty is commensurate to that violation. You don't know what players were involved, and you don't know the key fact, whether players came here BECAUSE of an impermissible benefit. Too much stuff you don't know to have your degree of confidence.
If you replay Ramsey's remarks from a couple weeks ago, he does not use the word "significant" or "major" very often. I think his first utterance was simply "NCAA violation", and I don't think it was plural "violations". If this is eventually found to be a gross over-reaction to what we have already been told occurred, Ramsey will probably pay the ultimate price. And he should...
Click to expand... This drivel was posted by Zipp
The following was posted by fredburgcard...
OK fair enough. I didn't look at any other cases. So I went to the NCAA website and read their releases at the time sanctions were imposed on SMU and Syracuse.
Syracuse:
The NCAA found that programs at Syracuse, during the period 2001-12, engaged in NCAA violations. Specifically it found the men's bball program engaged in academic misconduct during the 05, 06, 07, 11 and 12 seasons; that it failed to properly implement its own drug testing program and that is allowed a booster to pay several thousand dollars to two bball players for volunteer work at a youth center. The academic misconduct involved a tutor falsely certifying that a player completed hours for an internship for which he got course credit, and the Director of Bball Operations and a receptionist performing course work for players.
Syracuse self-imposed a one-year post season ban last season in anticipation of NCAA sanctions. Smart move on their part as they were not going to play more than a game or two in the ACC and NIT tourneys anyway. In addition the NCAA vacated all bball wins for all of the involved seasons; took back all funds Syracuse received for participating in the Big East, and NCAA tournaments during those seasons; put the program on probation for 5 years; took away 3 scholarships a year for 4 years; and imposed a 9 game suspension on Boeheim. The release acknowledged there was no indication Boeheim was aware of what was going on but that he had failed to promote compliance and monitor his staff.
SMU:
The NCAA found that SMU engaged in academic fraud when a bball staffer arranged for an academically ineligible recruit to register for an on-line course and then took the course for him. The head coach (Brown) found out about this in 14 but didn't initially report it. The staffer initially lied about the misconduct and Brown initially lied during his interview but immediately corrected the lie during the interview.
SMU was given a one-year post season ban this year which is significant because SMU would likely be a high seed in this year's NCAA tournament and is currently at the top of the AAC. The NCAA vacated all wins in which the involved player participated and SMU has to return all post-season revenue received for the seasons that player played. SMU had previously self-imposed a one year loss of two scholarships. This was increased to a three year loss of three scholarships a year. SMU was put on probation for 3 years; Brown was suspended for 30% of one season; and recruiting restrictions were imposed.
As zipp noted none of us have any idea right now what the NCAA will find happened at UofL. I assume even the NCAA doesn't yet know because they haven't completed their investigation. My point in my earlier post was that even what most of us would believe is a best case scenario is a serious NCAA violation. If the head of basketball operations at UofL paid money to provide strippers to entertain recruits and players at a university facility that is an impermissible benefit. Players who receive impermissible benefits are usually ruled ineligible or are suspended for a period of time. I looked and I could not find anything on the NCAA website that indicates the NCAA must find that the impermissible benefit led the player to do anything. All that apparently has to be shown is that there be an impermissible benefit. Unless this was a one-time event, and what I've read to date doesn't lead me to conclude that's the case, the school and Pitino are likely to be found at fault for failing to set up adequate safeguards to prevent it, stop it and then report it.
If what Pitino said last week is true Jurich made the recommendation to Ramsey to self-impose the post season ban this year. I don't see why Pitino would lie about that. I don't see why Jurich would have made this recommendation to Ramsey unless he had a pretty good belief that Louisville was looking at some pretty severe penalties based upon what UofL's investigation has already found happened. Note that both Syracuse and SMU had to vacate wins where players who had received impermissible benefits played. I suspect some players who played on the 12 and 13 teams might be found to have attended one of these shows. If that is the case the NCAA could vacate the wins in those seasons and we all know what that means. I don't equate watching strippers to be the same level of benefit as having someone else do course work that makes a player academically eligible to play. UofL can now make the argument that by self-imposing a ban this year when it has a very good team it has already taken a significant hit and that vacating wins (as was imposed on SMU and Syracuse) is not necessary here. While I don't have a lot of respect for Ramsey I do respect Jurich's apparent judgement that UofL is better off biting the bullet now rather than wait for the NCAA to act.
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He not only blasted Zipp out of the water, he gives a very good glimpse into the future of ul men's basketball. The hit is going to be massive.
it's getting harder and harder for zippy to come up with rationalization scenarios. that place is going to erupt like a volcano before too long.
penalties for Pitino and UL on whether he knew or did not know
Pitrino did not know = LOIC
Pitino did know = LOIC + Show Cause
hmmm..................
Pitrino did not know = LOIC
Pitino did know = LOIC + Show Cause
hmmm..................
Zippy likes to think of himself as a great debater but it must be killing him that he's losing to a 2 bit ***** in Katina Powell.
It really depends...... if they conclude these parties happened 20 or so times over 4-5 years like Katina said. They could give Pitino a show cause just because its that egregious that he didnt know . If there was ever a time for strict liability ..... its with prostitution for kids under 18.
i think the "show cause" hanging over Pitino's head is why we will never know if he knew or not
if he did know he will never admit it, his career would be over
Zipp is a master debater.
His priest probably doesn't even know the truth.
I got banned on the UL Forums and never even posted on them,just because I gave Howie crap back when he used to come to Rupp's Rafters.I went there 3 or 4 years ago and was Blacklisted out the gate,I'm not a paying member or I'd call and complain about those retards,why I'll never subscribe when thin skinned coward mods ban you over posting facts and truth,why waste money?
Black curtain of death, should've had a logo of the grim reaper on it!
Picture needs Catphights touch...
Zipp is a gutless, moronic POS. I wish one time his *** would have the balls to come over here and have a serious debate since Steelers and the rest of the Tard gestapo don't allow any deviation from Fuhrer Jurich's party line on their forum.
Waste of time,it would be like wrestling with a hog,you both would get **** on you,except the hog likes it
Mr Wildcat in STL...I would love to meet you and have you explain why you called me a UL troll.
Those are fighting words in my house. Period.
As soon as I figure out how to upload pictures, I will. At that point I will accept your apology; that is if your man enough to own up to being wrong.
I can not help that I am not as fluid on a computer as you are. Computers came along after I left school and had no desire to learn the damn things.
I have always enjoyed reading this site for several years and until my granddaughter showed me how to register and post, I just read everything.
I own a business that does work on several hundred properties in and around the UL campus. I am there almost everyday.
I have had hundreds of their athletes, cheerleaders, dance, two mascots and regular students in the buildings I have the contracts on. One of my clients is a well established UL booster who owns a liquor store. I have met many past UL players from knowing them. Also, I have attended many of their Derby parties and met many past UK players.
I bleed blue, piss blue, eat blue and damn proud of it.
When I figure this picture thing out, big boy, you owe me an apology.
I am willing to bet anything you want, that once I figure out this picture thing, I will upload my "man cave" as you younger ones call it and I have UK things well before you were born.
On my wall is a complete set of UK Championship knives; no longer in production. These are not some Wal-Mart specials either.
Also is a set of guns, blue and white and one is red and black. Under them is the heading "Battle in the Bluegrass".
In my gun safe is one of only a few ever made, a blue and white 40 cal. Beretta.
No son, I am not a UL Troll and until I can post these pictures, believe what you want.
I will not call you names and such like others do; I am too old for all that. I will just prove your sorry *** wrong.
Those are fighting words in my house. Period.
As soon as I figure out how to upload pictures, I will. At that point I will accept your apology; that is if your man enough to own up to being wrong.
I can not help that I am not as fluid on a computer as you are. Computers came along after I left school and had no desire to learn the damn things.
I have always enjoyed reading this site for several years and until my granddaughter showed me how to register and post, I just read everything.
I own a business that does work on several hundred properties in and around the UL campus. I am there almost everyday.
I have had hundreds of their athletes, cheerleaders, dance, two mascots and regular students in the buildings I have the contracts on. One of my clients is a well established UL booster who owns a liquor store. I have met many past UL players from knowing them. Also, I have attended many of their Derby parties and met many past UK players.
I bleed blue, piss blue, eat blue and damn proud of it.
When I figure this picture thing out, big boy, you owe me an apology.
I am willing to bet anything you want, that once I figure out this picture thing, I will upload my "man cave" as you younger ones call it and I have UK things well before you were born.
On my wall is a complete set of UK Championship knives; no longer in production. These are not some Wal-Mart specials either.
Also is a set of guns, blue and white and one is red and black. Under them is the heading "Battle in the Bluegrass".
In my gun safe is one of only a few ever made, a blue and white 40 cal. Beretta.
No son, I am not a UL Troll and until I can post these pictures, believe what you want.
I will not call you names and such like others do; I am too old for all that. I will just prove your sorry *** wrong.
Saw SB riding around in his Benz..TWill in his new charger and Dieng in in his new Escalade...Damn I didn't know that Benedict recruited his players from such wealthy famalies:scream::scream:It wouldn't surprise me if some dirt comes from this upstanding citizen. He seemed to be in frequent trouble, was mentioned in the book numerous times, and didn't exactly leave UL on good terms.
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Sorry blue fart, pictures won't even prove it. Those can be found on the internet. If you want to prove you are a UK fan...... its going to take a lot of time of being a valued member of this board.
Amazingly, they still do not understand how serious this is. I am someone who is much less hostile to UL and Pitino than most, but their fans are absolutely repugnant:
They just don't believe that it's a big deal at all. They have no idea why big networks and newspapers would be interested in such a mild offense. Therefore, there must be a conspiracy - ESPN would've ignored it and the papers would've had it as a little blurb way, way in the back of the sports section unless there was someone unseen pulling strings, coming to get them.
If in some horrible, twisted alternate universe, one of our staff members hired a bunch of known prostitutes to come entertain players and recruits, and some of you guys on here were making excuses for it, saying that it's not that big a deal, and that the media is making mountains out of molehills, I would come to your houses and slap you upside your damn heads.
But I'm pretty certain that the vast majority of UK fans have more sense than that. What is wrong with these guys?
They just don't believe that it's a big deal at all. They have no idea why big networks and newspapers would be interested in such a mild offense. Therefore, there must be a conspiracy - ESPN would've ignored it and the papers would've had it as a little blurb way, way in the back of the sports section unless there was someone unseen pulling strings, coming to get them.
If in some horrible, twisted alternate universe, one of our staff members hired a bunch of known prostitutes to come entertain players and recruits, and some of you guys on here were making excuses for it, saying that it's not that big a deal, and that the media is making mountains out of molehills, I would come to your houses and slap you upside your damn heads.
But I'm pretty certain that the vast majority of UK fans have more sense than that. What is wrong with these guys?
consider that a blessing !! The entire world needs to be banned from looking at that cesspool that is UL. just box them up and send them to uranus.... since they like anas so much.
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Well, you believe what you want, I am in the process of figuring this picture thing out.
When I do, if you still think what you see is some internet BS, then there is nothing I can say to you then.
I guess this is where you and I disagree, on what it takes to be considered a valued member of something. Time does not prove anything.
I have read many others who start off posting and get hammered by some because of a "number of post" they go by.
So what do you consider a "valued member" to be? Someone who you approve?
I have not read the test one must take to prove themselves. Who made this test up, you?
I am not going to post negative things about anyone or criticize others for their opinion.
I see now why some of the older people who posted here have left. I liked reading these posters when they did post.
Dave Kersey, a guy named Don (someone said he is at a different board) Alumni Cat, just to name a few.
My favorite is the scouting reports on teams. I hate for this guy to get the big head! But they are good.
Oh, crap, what was his name?
Well, you believe what you want, I am in the process of figuring this picture thing out.
When I do, if you still think what you see is some internet BS, then there is nothing I can say to you then.
I guess this is where you and I disagree, on what it takes to be considered a valued member of something. Time does not prove anything.
I have read many others who start off posting and get hammered by some because of a "number of post" they go by.
So what do you consider a "valued member" to be? Someone who you approve?
I have not read the test one must take to prove themselves. Who made this test up, you?
I am not going to post negative things about anyone or criticize others for their opinion.
I see now why some of the older people who posted here have left. I liked reading these posters when they did post.
Dave Kersey, a guy named Don (someone said he is at a different board) Alumni Cat, just to name a few.
My favorite is the scouting reports on teams. I hate for this guy to get the big head! But they are good.
Oh, crap, what was his name?