What did Petrino do w/ ill-gotten leaked info? He USED IT!!

[21Goose]

UofL isn't implicated that I know of in all of those seasons. UofL is only implicated in that the WF staff supposedly found out about it by "finding" the stuff laying around at UofL from what anyone has said so far.

To go back that far. UofL won 20-10 in 2014 at UofL. UofL won 20-19 at Wake last year. UofL won this year with a late explosion after Wake led in the 3rd 12-10. Does that show evidence of UofL "knowing the plays and game plans"?

I don't have my head in the sand, but something isn't adding up here. My first point of how did a Wake person wind up in the UofL areas to find such documents? Then to look at the scores over the last 3 seasons (the seasons questioned by Wake), the scores don't reflect a team that knew what Wake was going to do. 10 point win at home, 1 point win on the road, and then this years game where wake was leading 12-10 in the 3rd quarter.

What it basically implies if true is that Petrino knew their plays and game plans, and purposely kept the games close so it wouldn't like he knew.

UofL beat FSU by 40, damn near pulled off a win at Clemson. Was in the playoff hunt for awhile and had the Heisman winner. Risk all of that for Wakes play book, then just leave the playbook laying around for someone from Wake to find?

We'll see how it all shakes out, but it's not making sense right now with the information that's been made public so far.

Let me guess, you didn't believe Katina Powell either. It's unreal how UL fans support Petrino and Pitino after all they've been through and then when they get caught up in another scandal say no way they would do something like that.
They have done things like that and will continue to do things like that.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Obviously if someone gave it to him he's gonna use it? Who wouldn't?

That question is a cultural commentary. I hope there are names that we can slide in for an answer.

 

[Section31Row4]

The Cardinal fans are just losing their minds ri

Loserville is screwed. Once its thoroughly investigated they will be found guilty of using this information.

I think this is rock bottom. I know it's Louisville, but the amount of scandal coming from that institution is rediculous. Personally, I'm enjoying each and every Cardinal fan post on here. They are gasping for air to breathe these days instead of packing for the playoffs or Orange Bowl. Oh, and then there's that basketball game coming up as well...

 

[Beatle Bum]

I think it's great. Good for Bobby Petrino. The fact that people care makes it even better. Bobby - 1 People Butt-Hurt - 0

You love Bobby's butt.

 

[Cat78Scot]

Let me guess, you didn't believe Katina Powell either. It's unreal how UL fans support Petrino and Pitino after all they've been through and then when they get caught up in another scandal say no way they would do something like that.
They have done things like that and will continue to do things like that.

Card fans should definitely get the gold medal for mental gymnastics considering all the different implausible scenarios they devise to blame others and/or excuse their pathetic coaches' behavior.

 

[Mike-D]

You love Bobby's butt.

Or maybe I don't care about Wake Forest. Sorta enjoy the mini meltdowns over a game nobody will ever care about or remember.

 

[Crankdatmustard_rivals66299]

The below tells you all you need to know that Louisville was given the gameplan

Petrino apparently cheated to win a game. And it was probably easy to do. When Elrod coached at Wake Forest, he was co-coordinator of the passing game. His other co-coordinator, Lonnie Galloway, now works on Petrino’s staff. That sound you hear should be Galloway calling his lawyer."

 

[Comebakatz3]

Lamars back up is higher ranked than he was. Pass was the 5th ranked dual threat qb in the country coming out of high school and he's recruiting better than he ever has. Unless a huge name sec school comes calling like a lsu or Alabam

no way Louisville is going to buy wake forests' game plan. That's just stupid

First, I will give Petrino and Louisville credit because they have continued success despite the quarterback. However, let's not pretend like Pass is going to be on the level of Jackson. Pass could be a damn good quarterback, but Jackson came in a bit under the radar and exploded into something that no one expected him to be.

Louisville was hanging on the brink of a football playoff. They had already lost one very close game and could ill afford to lose another one if they wanted a playoff bid. Every little advantage to make sure you beat a team and get into that playoff is huge. Not to mention that it could greatly relieve some stress off of the coaches. There are a whole lot of reasons why Louisville would want to take that game plan. Especially after they struggled against Virginia and somewhat against Duke. This may very well take out some risk of a lack of player motivation effecting the game.

 

[Crankdatmustard_rivals66299]

No one bought the GD game plan. It was given to a Louisville coach who previously coached with Ward at WF.

 

[Kratz]

Let me guess, you didn't believe Katina Powell either. It's unreal how UL fans support Petrino and Pitino after all they've been through and then when they get caught up in another scandal say no way they would do something like that.
They have done things like that and will continue to do things like that.

I can't say that 100% believed her, and it turned out she was proven false on some of the things she said. I believed that something happened and I can dig up the posts to prove it. I was blasted by UofL fans for saying so UNTIL the day UofL made the public statement that opened with the words "Violations were committed".

In all honesty, I think the NCAA missed something in the investigation. Again it's one of those things that doesn't make sense or add up, just like this case.

Powell was bringing strippers/escorts into Minardi Hall after hours. The only one that knew was McGee? What about security? There are security guards that monitor the place, they didn't see or hear anything over a 3-4 year period? No security cameras (present in EVERY dorm, not just Minardi Hall) showing groups of women coming and going well after hours? No one saw anything even though there's security cameras and security people. Sorry, doesn't make sense.

Just like things don't make sense in this case. What are Wake people doing in the UofL/coaches area/locker room of the stadium the day before the game? If UofL did have the stuff, do you just leave it laying around in a common area for someone to find? If you have the stuff for 3 years, why are all the scores so close? No one would argue that UofL is much more talented than Wake and UofL blowing them out would be no surprise to anyone.

So IF Petrino did have them, why were the games so close? He obviously didn't read them or understand them.

Just doesn't make sense.

 

[Comebakatz3]

No one bought the GD game plan. It was given to a Louisville coach who previously coached with Ward at WF.

So, you just believe that the WF alumni hated the new coach so much that he was just offering game plans to numerous coaches for free for 2-3 years? That his only enjoyment out of this was getting back at this coach? Sounds like that is a giant risk to take when you have a pretty decent job with at your Alma-mater. It would make more sense for him to only give out the gameplan to teams who he thought couldn't beat Wake without it. Louisville shouldn't have needed any help with Wake, and UL beating them wasn't going to make it any more likely that this coach gets fired. It makes more sense for him to give them to Tulane and Delaware than Louisville because those two schools have a lot to gain by beating an ACC school and it embarrasses the WF coach to lose to them and shortens the time he is at WF by losing those games.

What does raise my eyebrow is that no coach or assistant (or whoever) in the last 2-3 years stepped up to inform WF that a trusted member of their university was making this information available. So, either many teams didn't take the guy seriously, or they took the information.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

It still doesn't make sense to me on a couple of fronts.

#1. Say UofL did have the game plan, plays, whatever. They would be in the UofL area of the locker rooms, offices, etc. How would a Wake Forest person be in that area to find such documents? If the documents were there, they would be kept under wraps. Not left out for anyone to find as they were passing through.

#2. Wake was leading in the 3rd quarter. If UofL had them pegged from before the game started, how would Wake be leading in the 3rd? With Wake leading that late in the game, it's pretty obvious that UofL wasn't on top of what Wake was running.

UofL exploded about mid way through the 3rd and scored 30 something unanswered. You honestly think UofL said "let's play this cool, let Wake lead until midway through the third then we'll unload on them"?

Now if UofL blasted them out of the gate, I'd give more credibility to this have possibly happened. But it just doesn't make sense at all with the way the game played out, and that these documents were found in a UofL coaches area by Wake Forest personnel.

Does the visiting team have free access to the UK locker room and coaches areas at CWS? Of course not, and I'm sure they don't at UofL either.

It just doesn't add up to me.

Wouldn't expect you to say any different. One thing about the UL fanbase is that they circle the wagons and simply do not question Jurich / Petrino / Pitino. Aren't any of you tired of all of this constant scandal?

 

[Michigan Fan]

No...more like just wait it out until the entire facts come out instead of jumping to conclusions....and it goes back to 2014...no telling how many programs this might involve.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

One a radio announcer shouldn't even have access to a teams game plans in the first place.second if Louisville had that info then it sure didn't help them in the first 3 quarters of the game.

He's a former Wake coach, not just "a radio announcer". Also, he's a former player so has access to the program.

 

[Comebakatz3]

I can't say that 100% believed her, and it turned out she was proven false on some of the things she said. I believed that something happened and I can dig up the posts to prove it. I was blasted by UofL fans for saying so UNTIL the day UofL made the public statement that opened with the words "Violations were committed".

Just like things don't make sense in this case. What are Wake people doing in the UofL/coaches area/locker room of the stadium the day before the game? If UofL did have the stuff, do you just leave it laying around in a common area for someone to find? If you have the stuff for 3 years, why are all the scores so close? No one would argue that UofL is much more talented than Wake and UofL blowing them out would be no surprise to anyone.

So IF Petrino did have them, why were the games so close? He obviously didn't read them or understand them.

Just doesn't make sense.

It would all depend on who and how many people had access to the information. Could have very well been a packet that was given to all players to learn and to study before the game and one of them was left laying around by a player. A WF staff member sees it and wonders what it is and sees that it very familiar and reports it to his own staff. Could be that certain areas are "common" because you have to go through that to get to another area. For instance, I have seen where many coaching boxes are connected to one another but not the outside, so you have to go through one coaching box to get to another. Could have been that several pages of a larger group slipped out when UL staff members were going from one part of the stadium to another. Hell, could have been that a UL staff member had a conscious and placed the information somewhere for the WF staff to find it. Plenty of ways that WF staff members could have found this information without having access to private areas of PJS.

Petrino (or whoever) may not have used or accepted the information the past two years. This year they had a lot more to lose if he lost the game. The fact that the game was so close the past two years actually lends some credence to the idea that UL may have wanted some extra insurance this year to make sure they don't lose the game and lose all hope of going to the playoffs, and possibly lose a chance at getting a Heisman trophy, which would theoretically help recruiting. This year the score was pretty close, but I believe WF said they changed their gameplan at the last hour when they found this out, so this year's score isn't really any kind of an indicator.

 

[Cat78Scot]

I can't say that 100% believed her, and it turned out she was proven false on some of the things she said. I believed that something happened and I can dig up the posts to prove it. I was blasted by UofL fans for saying so UNTIL the day UofL made the public statement that opened with the words "Violations were committed".

In all honesty, I think the NCAA missed something in the investigation. Again it's one of those things that doesn't make sense or add up, just like this case.

Powell was bringing strippers/escorts into Minardi Hall after hours. The only one that knew was McGee? What about security? There are security guards that monitor the place, they didn't see or hear anything over a 3-4 year period? No security cameras (present in EVERY dorm, not just Minardi Hall) showing groups of women coming and going well after hours? No one saw anything even though there's security cameras and security people. Sorry, doesn't make sense.

Just like things don't make sense in this case. What are Wake people doing in the UofL/coaches area/locker room of the stadium the day before the game? If UofL did have the stuff, do you just leave it laying around in a common area for someone to find? If you have the stuff for 3 years, why are all the scores so close? No one would argue that UofL is much more talented than Wake and UofL blowing them out would be no surprise to anyone.

So IF Petrino did have them, why were the games so close? He obviously didn't read them or understand them.

Just doesn't make sense.

Your AD and coaches are liars involved in a cover up. How difficult is that to understand? There is NO WAY McGee was the only guy involved (Coach Mike plus the amount of money spent) and there is NO WAY there was no evidence. It was all just destroyed because they KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING!!

Pimptino has been caught in a multitude of lies before. How anyone believes he had no knowledge of this is beyond me.

 

[Tapemaster8]

I can't say that 100% believed her, and it turned out she was proven false on some of the things she said. I believed that something happened and I can dig up the posts to prove it. I was blasted by UofL fans for saying so UNTIL the day UofL made the public statement that opened with the words "Violations were committed".

In all honesty, I think the NCAA missed something in the investigation. Again it's one of those things that doesn't make sense or add up, just like this case.

Powell was bringing strippers/escorts into Minardi Hall after hours. The only one that knew was McGee? What about security? There are security guards that monitor the place, they didn't see or hear anything over a 3-4 year period? No security cameras (present in EVERY dorm, not just Minardi Hall) showing groups of women coming and going well after hours? No one saw anything even though there's security cameras and security people. Sorry, doesn't make sense.

Just like things don't make sense in this case. What are Wake people doing in the UofL/coaches area/locker room of the stadium the day before the game? If UofL did have the stuff, do you just leave it laying around in a common area for someone to find? If you have the stuff for 3 years, why are all the scores so close? No one would argue that UofL is much more talented than Wake and UofL blowing them out would be no surprise to anyone.

So IF Petrino did have them, why were the games so close? He obviously didn't read them or understand them.

Just doesn't make sense.

The reason they were so close was that Wake had a great game plan. One that could be successful against them. To use clock and keep the ball away from Lamar and the offense!!

 

[KMKAT]

So which makes more sense, a former basketball assistant providing entertainment to recruits that the head coach knew nothing about, nor did anyone else in the administration, or a football radio guy giving out a game plan to a Petrino assistant to hurt his own school, that Petrino says is a Wake issue?

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/13/wake-forest-game-plan-leak-louisville-bobby-petrino

No matter what happens going further, I truly enjoy Petrino and Pitino staying at UL for future entertainment.

Incredible this school is even able to compete IMO.

 

[Kratz]

Wouldn't expect you to say any different. One thing about the UL fanbase is that they circle the wagons and simply do not question Jurich / Petrino / Pitino. Aren't any of you tired of all of this constant scandal?

Obviously you didn't read the rest of my posts in this thread. Read the one on page 3 where somebody asked me about Katina Powell. My answer may surprise you.

Yeah, I'm going to circle the wagons at first, that's human nature. Then I wait for the truth. In some good examples, UK fans were quick to circle the wagons around Chuck Hayes and the rape allegations. UofL vultures were pouncing from every direction, then it turns out Hayes was innocent. UK fans circled the wagons around Barker busting some dude upside the head with a beer bottle in Richmond. Turns out he was guilty of that one.

Hell, Lloyd Tubman got royally screwed by UK. Accused of rape, dismissed from the school, then found innocent. Did you circle the wagons around UK for punishing an innocent man? Of course you did. That's human nature. The determining factor is do you accept the truth when it's made apparent? I do.

There's too many unanswered questions with this, and too many things that simply don't make sense for anyone to know what the truth is right now. The people that know the truth, including Wake Forest because they've done their investigation and fired the guy, aren't saying what happened.

I haven't said "UofL is INNOCENT". I've said there's a lot of things here that don't make sense. And I think if you look at it from a neutral point of view, You'd agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the reasons I've already outlined. I'm waiting for the truth.

I'll even throw you another bone: I think (purely my own suspicion) the reason that we're not hearing anything else about the shooting last week is because a UofL player possibly had a gun and possibly returned fire in self defense. It's well documented that party crashers fired the first shots, but then things get real quiet and fuzzy after that. Again, doesn't make sense to keep so hush hush about it from a certain time frame forward. Vivid detail up until the still unknown and at large party crasher fired shots, then silence from that moment forward. You have to look for what makes sense.

Nothing with this WF case makes sense. Read Eric Crawfords column on it today on wdrb website. He basically says some of the same things. Why isn't anyone just saying what happened, why aren't there any details, and do the things we know make sense?

 

[Michigan Fan]

Obviously you didn't read the rest of my posts in this thread. Read the one on page 3 where somebody asked me about Katina Powell. My answer may surprise you.

Yeah, I'm going to circle the wagons at first, that's human nature. Then I wait for the truth. In some good examples, UK fans were quick to circle the wagons around Chuck Hayes and the rape allegations. UofL vultures were pouncing from every direction, then it turns out Hayes was innocent. UK fans circled the wagons around Barker busting some dude upside the head with a beer bottle in Richmond. Turns out he was guilty of that one.

Hell, Lloyd Tubman got royally screwed by UK. Accused of rape, dismissed from the school, then found innocent. Did you circle the wagons around UK for punishing an innocent man? Of course you did. That's human nature. The determining factor is do you accept the truth when it's made apparent? I do.

There's too many unanswered questions with this, and too many things that simply don't make sense for anyone to know what the truth is right now. The people that know the truth, including Wake Forest because they've done their investigation and fired the guy, aren't saying what happened.

I haven't said "UofL is INNOCENT". I've said there's a lot of things here that don't make sense. And I think if you look at it from a neutral point of view, You'd agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the reasons I've already outlined. I'm waiting for the truth.

I'll even throw you another bone: I think (purely my own suspicion) the reason that we're not hearing anything else about the shooting last week is because a UofL player possibly had a gun and possibly returned fire in self defense. It's well documented that party crashers fired the first shots, but then things get real quiet and fuzzy after that. Again, doesn't make sense to keep so hush hush about it from a certain time frame forward. Vivid detail up until the still unknown and at large party crasher fired shots, then silence from that moment forward. You have to look for what makes sense.

Nothing with this WF case makes sense. Read Eric Crawfords column on it today on wdrb website. He basically says some of the same things. Why isn't anyone just saying what happened, why aren't there any details, and do the things we know make sense?

Well said....let all investigations play out...

 

[red rage 2016]

I admit on the stripper thing no I'd didn't want to believe it cause I didn't think a former well liked player would be so stupid to do such a thing.

My issue with Wake Forest is from piecing things together their play call sheet was found in a booth but I haven't heard which booth. Ok if that is true, can WF actually prove that Louisville at anytime had possession of that play call sheet ?

WF say they have text and emails to prove the guy was offering inside info over a 3 year period. Why hasn't WF released those emails and text or why hasn't any media outlet that we know if requested and open records request ?

 

[Cat78Scot]

I admit on the stripper thing no I'd didn't want to believe it cause I didn't think a former well liked player would be so stupid to do such a thing.

My issue with Wake Forest is from piecing things together their play call sheet was found in a booth but I haven't heard which booth. Ok if that is true, can WF actually prove that Louisville at anytime had possession of that play call sheet ?

WF say they have text and emails to prove the guy was offering inside info over a 3 year period. Why hasn't WF released those emails and text or why hasn't any media outlet that we know if requested and open records request ?

So you guys actually believe that McGee was a lone wolf and financed all the funds used in the HOOKER parties (not strippers, hookers!)??

 

[red rage 2016]

So you guys actually believe that McGee was a lone wolf and financed all the funds used in the HOOKER parties (not strippers, hookers!)??

Is there any proof that he didn't act alone ? The NCAA seems to think that he did act alone. It seems silly to say otherwise unless there is proof. I fully get that UK fans there is no way that Pitino didn't know or should have known. However at the same time UK fans will defend Calipari saying he had no idea what happened at UMass and Memphis.

Now personally I have never been a Pitino fan and will be very happy the day the man retires.

 

[Kratz]

Same here. The day Pitino leaves won't bother me a bit.

 

[Michigan Fan]

Same here. The day Pitino leaves won't bother me a bit.

Lol...glad I'm not alone...even though I don't watch Basketball until March...also will be glad when Fields plays his last game...

 

[Kratz]

So you guys actually believe that McGee was a lone wolf and financed all the funds used in the HOOKER parties (not strippers, hookers!)??

The "funds" only turned out to be $3,500 - $4000 over a 3 year period. Not the $10k+ that Powell was claiming. Yeah, McGee could afford a grand per year. I still question the security guards and cameras though. That's the part that doesn't make sense

 

[Cat78Scot]

Is there any proof that he didn't act alone ? The NCAA seems to think that he did act alone. It seems silly to say otherwise unless there is proof. I fully get that UK fans there is no way that Pitino didn't know or should have known. However at the same time UK fans will defend Calipari saying he had no idea what happened at UMass and Memphis.

Now personally I have never been a Pitino fan and will be very happy the day the man retires.

Come on now, I'm so tired of people equating the UMass and Memphis deals to this.

UMass: One summer Camby and friends accepted gifts and money. Off campus, during the summer. Cal reported as soon as he found out.

Memphis: Rose was alleged to have cheated on his SAT BEFORE even committing to Memphis. Cleared twice by the clearinghouse and then deemed guilty for not talking to NCAA after the season. Has McGee talked? Nope.

Hookers at UofL: FOUR years! ON CAMPUS!! In a dorm the Pimp raised money for to commemorate his great friendship for his brother in law even though he cheated on his sister. This includes money involved to levels of which McGee would normally have no access to.

There is no comparison. At all.

 

[The-Hack]

Hmmmm.

These allegations have implications of federal wire fraud.

This could end up taking the ACC down a dark and long path, if more than simply U of L took advantage. Makes me wonder if money was paid.

 

[Kratz]

Lol...glad I'm not alone...even though I don't watch Basketball until March...also will be glad when Fields plays his last game...

Nope, you're not alone. I think I've watched 2 basketball games this season. The loss in Bahamas on Thanksgiving and one of the cupcakes.

Of course I'll watch the UK game. I'm sure I'll get more interested later in the season.

I don't like Pitino, I don't watch any interviews he does and read very little of where someone is quoting him. He kind of turns my stomach.

Now Football is a different story. I don't miss a second of anything. I read, watch or learn whatever I can. In this basketball crazy state, I live for football. Yes, I'm an oddity.

 

[Cat78Scot]

The "funds" only turned out to be $3,500 - $4000 over a 3 year period. Not the $10k+ that Powell was claiming. Yeah, McGee could afford a grand per year. I still question the security guards and cameras though. That's the part that doesn't make sense

Yeah, I believe her over the NCAA actually. When you look at how they let UNC and Duke slide and fudge facts for favorite schools, how can you believe anything they come out with?

 

[red rage 2016]

Come on now, I'm so tired of people equating the UMass and Memphis deals to this.

UMass: One summer Camby and friends accepted gifts and money. Off campus, during the summer. Cal reported as soon as he found out.

Memphis: Rose was alleged to have cheated on his SAT BEFORE even committing to Memphis. Cleared twice by the clearinghouse and then deemed guilty for not talking to NCAA after the season. Has McGee talked? Nope.

Hookers at UofL: FOUR years! ON CAMPUS!! In a dorm the Pimp raised money for to commemorate his great friendship for his brother in law even though he cheated on his sister. This includes money involved to levels of which McGee would normally have no access to.

There is no comparison. At all.

What I was trying to basically say the NCAA Cleared Calipari and they basically cleared Pitino except for failure to monitor McGee which Louisville is fighting.

 

[The-Hack]

Kratz, your not that much of an oddity. People who have not paid attention (and that's many) are consistently shocked by the support football receives in dollars/profits/arses in the seats, when they are force fed the facts.

 

[Cat78Scot]

What I was trying to basically say the NCAA Cleared Calipari and they basically cleared Pitino except for failure to monitor McGee which Louisville is fighting.

Four years on campus <> two isolated incidents, off season, off campus

And how in the hell does he fight a failure to monitor charge without admitting to knowing what he was doing all along? Pitino logic.

 

[red rage 2016]

Four years on campus <> two isolated incidents, off season, off campus

And how in the hell does he fight a failure to monitor charge without admitting to knowing what he was doing all along? Pitino logic.

I honestly don't know how he plans on fighting it. Like I said I am not a Pitino fan and part of me wishes the NCAA would have found more against Pitino cause I will be glad when he is gone.

 

[Kratz]

Sure, you can wordsmith anything and fool some people. Look at the overall history and the truth comes out. Which coach has issue after issue and consistently lies and manipulates facts and perceptions with wordsmithing and sound bytes?

I've already said I don't like Pitino and won't miss him a bit when he's gone. Does that mean he's dirty? No. Just means I don't like him. He cheated on his wife: Wow, him and tens of millions of other guys. Has Pitino lied? Not that I can recall. He came totally clean on the affair and SHE'S the one in jail. Whether he lied about McGee can't proven one way or the other. The NCAA said Pitino didn't lie about it. If the NCAA cleared Cal, you should accept that they cleared Pitino of lying too.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

They wouldn't take the coach of the most recent heisman winner? Who has top 25 recruiting classes every year? People have short memories man it's all about recent success. Media leaked multiple big named schools who reached out to him this past season and last offseason

Others would probably take him, but pretty telling that UL was the ONLY P5 school that would even sniff him a few years back.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

That's just an opinion of one journalist. That's funny he says it happened with multiple schools but focuses on petrino and Louisville. But it's okay that's what happens when you got an elite coach with a little baggage.

LOL. This is why UL fans generally have no credibility. How can you even type "a little baggage" with a straight face???

 

[Cat78Scot]

I've already said I don't like Pitino and won't miss him a bit when he's gone. Does that mean he's dirty? No. Just means I don't like him. He cheated on his wife: Wow, him and tens of millions of other guys. Has Pitino lied? Not that I can recall. He came totally clean on the affair and SHE'S the one in jail. Whether he lied about McGee can't proven one way or the other. The NCAA said Pitino didn't lie about it. If the NCAA cleared Cal, you should accept that they cleared Pitino of lying too.

We'll have to agree to disagree obviously. He has lied so many times its the norm. My dad used to say that if you lie often enough, you will start to believe your own lies.

So he came totally clean about Sypher? About how he paid for an abortion and married her off to an assistant coach?

Edit: He only came clean (to an extent) about Sypher because she wanted more than he had already paid her. He had to because he was backed into a corner!

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

UofL isn't implicated that I know of in all of those seasons. UofL is only implicated in that the WF staff supposedly found out about it by "finding" the stuff laying around at UofL from what anyone has said so far.

To go back that far. UofL won 20-10 in 2014 at UofL. UofL won 20-19 at Wake last year. UofL won this year with a late explosion after Wake led in the 3rd 12-10. Does that show evidence of UofL "knowing the plays and game plans"?

I don't have my head in the sand, but something isn't adding up here. My first point of how did a Wake person wind up in the UofL areas to find such documents? Then to look at the scores over the last 3 seasons (the seasons questioned by Wake), the scores don't reflect a team that knew what Wake was going to do. 10 point win at home, 1 point win on the road, and then this years game where wake was leading 12-10 in the 3rd quarter.

What it basically implies if true is that Petrino knew their plays and game plans, and purposely kept the games close so it wouldn't like he knew.

UofL beat FSU by 40, damn near pulled off a win at Clemson. Was in the playoff hunt for awhile and had the Heisman winner. Risk all of that for Wakes play book, then just leave the playbook laying around for someone from Wake to find?

We'll see how it all shakes out, but it's not making sense right now with the information that's been made public so far.

OK. Let's test this theory of you "not having your head in the sand". Can you please three things below that disappoint or embarrass you about UL / UL coaches. Also please indicate if you think it's OK the way that punishments and justice has been administered at UL through the various scandals. Lastly, please indicate what you would have done (e.g. should Petrino have been rehired? Was Zurich right to keep Petrino after each of his scandals, etc?) .

 

[jauk11]

They lost by 32

Right, my bad, but they did cover some of the spreads.