What I know about Jason Hart…

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

He was a pretty mid to bad basketball player.

He’s from LA.

He was in charge of G-League Ignite and did such a bad job developing its players that the team folded and most of the prospects came to the league unprepared for the NBA.

He didn’t land his childhood friend’s son at Kentucky.

Now please tell me again… why is he on our staff? What is value exactly?

Who has he served as the lead recruiter on that we landed?

 

[ComebackCats98]

Pretty wild to go after an assistant coach after one good season with this new staff. You asked who has he been lead recruiter on that we landed, but I don’t know how anybody would know that. He might have played a huge part in our transfer portal classes for all we know. I understand we didn’t get Crowe, but it’s hard to be mad at the staff when they put Kentucky in a great position in his recruitment and Missouri came out of nowhere with rumors of them hiring his dad as an assistant. Not much you could do in that battle if those rumors are true.

 

[Tprinceuk]

He was a pretty mid to bad basketball player.

He’s from LA.

He was in charge of G-League Ignite and did such a bad job developing its players that the team folded and most of the prospects came to the league unprepared for the NBA.

He didn’t land his childhood friend’s son at Kentucky.

Now please tell me again… why is he on our staff? What is value exactly?

Who has he served as the lead recruiter on that we landed?

If Hart did land Crowe and he had a subpar year you would still be on here complaining about something, to act like he hasn't helped land these two great portal classes is asinine.

 

[ComebackCats98]

I don’t know what how he was as a player has to do with anything. What about any other assistant on the staff? Are we worried about how good they played or where they’re from? Come on now

 

[Anon1751509128]

Seems to be as much i belligerent on here as the old rafters

 

[JwUKFan11]

Quickly showing your ignorance I see.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Crowe hit only 25 percent from behind the arc on the Nike circuit. I’m not upset one bit losing him.

 

[senonesy]

Pretty wild to go after an assistant coach after one good season with this new staff. You asked who has he been lead recruiter on that we landed, but I don’t know how anybody would know that. He might have played a huge part in our transfer portal classes for all we know. I understand we didn’t get Crowe, but it’s hard to be mad at the staff when they put Kentucky in a great position in his recruitment and Missouri came out of nowhere with rumors of them hiring his dad as an assistant. Not much you could do in that battle if those rumors are true.

Second year Lowe > Crowe

 

[yoshukai]

He was a pretty mid to bad basketball player.

He’s from LA.

He was in charge of G-League Ignite and did such a bad job developing its players that the team folded and most of the prospects came to the league unprepared for the NBA.

He didn’t land his childhood friend’s son at Kentucky.

Now please tell me again… why is he on our staff? What is value exactly?

Who has he served as the lead recruiter on that we landed?

You realize that Pope wasn’t nearly as enamored with Crowe as you are right ? Word leaked out on the premium board over a month ago that Crowe wasn’t CMP’s 1st or 2nd pick for the point guard position. And Im sure you've read that Mizzu is expected to hire Crowes father , right?

 

[ZaytovenCat]

100% agree. He was hyped up as a great recruiter because of his connections but I haven’t seen it. I personally don’t feel he’s done much in his time here. What makes it even worse is Orlando Antigua wanted to stay here and we could have had him. He’s proven he can land top guys here and even at Illinois. It sucks.

 

[Eagles_Ball_69]

Second year Lowe > Crowe

I’m assuming the second yr of Jasper and Lowe are the reason Crowe chose Mizzou. And honestly, I truly believe it’s going to be tough for Pope to get the TRULY elite OAD type frosh as long as he plays guys a max of 24-25 mins/game. I know some will view that as a shot, it isn’t. Just an observation.

 

[UK4Life#9]

Mods, take the trash out for us?

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

I was told Sweet 16 isn’t a good season.

I also don’t care for speculation about transfers he might have landed or helped on.
Being his father’s friend put him in a position for us to be a hat on a table. Color me unimpressed.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

If Hart did land Crowe and he had a subpar year you would still be on here complaining about something, to act like he hasn't helped land these two great portal classes is asinine.

Pretty wild to go after an assistant coach after one good season with this new staff. You asked who has he been lead recruiter on that we landed, but I don’t know how anybody would know that. He might have played a huge part in our transfer portal classes for all we know. I understand we didn’t get Crowe, but it’s hard to be mad at the staff when they put Kentucky in a great position in his recruitment and Missouri came out of nowhere with rumors of them hiring his dad as an assistant. Not much you could do in that battle if those rumors are true.

I don’t get enamored with portal players. So landing us mediocre adults who have low ceilings and fade away in a few months doesn’t excite me much.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

I don’t know what how he was as a player has to do with anything. What about any other assistant on the staff? Are we worried about how good they played or where they’re from? Come on now

I’m simply telling you what I know about Hart athletically and professionally. He might be a great guy, fantastic husband, amazing father, one of the best beer pong players, a poet…. Unfortunately I don’t care about those things.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Crowe hit only 25 percent from behind the arc on the Nike circuit. I’m not upset one bit losing him.

Don’t care. The talent is there. Develop him. That’s what coaching is for. Then they become great players that represent the program. Rinse. Repeat

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Second year Lowe > Crowe

Like having Lamont Butler is better than Jeremiah Fears. No thanks.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

You realize that Pope wasn’t nearly as enamored with Crowe as you are right ? Word leaked out on the premium board over a month ago that Crowe wasn’t CMP’s 1st or 2nd pick for the point guard position. And Im sure you've read that Mizzu is expected to hire Crowes father , right?

So Pope is a bad judge of talent? I don’t want to throw Mark under the bus like that.
If you cannot convince your friend that Kentucky is a superior place to hone his son’s talent over Missouri then you do not deserve to be a Kentucky assistant. It’s really that simple.

Dint over complicate things guys.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Mods, take the trash out for us?

Oh my bad. We are only supposed to say positive things on this board?

 

[SkyPrince]

So Pope is a bad judge of talent? I don’t want to throw Mark under the bus like that.
If you cannot convince your friend that Kentucky is a superior place to hone his son’s talent over Missouri then you do not deserve to be a Kentucky assistant. It’s really that simple.

Dint over complicate things guys.

So every recruit who doesn't choose UK is a product of an assistant coach poorly selling the program?
You're way overanylizing this recruitment.

 

[flacat22]

I don’t get enamored with portal players. So landing us mediocre adults who have low ceilings and fade away in a few months doesn’t excite me much.

Did you see how Rutgers fared last year with their amazing recruiting class? The days of stockpiling 5 star babies to play sgainst men are over until the NCAA reins in the portal and the freedom to switch teams yearly.

To call out a Hart is weak assuming that all you KNOW for certain is that he and the kids father are friends and that his NBA career didn’t meet your unrealistic expectations for an assistant college basketball coach.
Did you know that Crowe’s daddy is expected to be given a spot on the coaching staff at Mizzou as well? Because he’s a great basketball mind that will improve the level of coaching? Please. Hart’s fault too?

Another thing you don’t/can’t know is how much mizz paid versus what UK would pay IF he were a priority.

Bad take on the Hart’s perceived failure on your part and even worse take on his respectable 9 year NBA playing career being somehow relevant to his ability as a successful college recruiter.

 

[flacat22]

I’m simply telling you what I know about Hart athletically and professionally. He might be a great guy, fantastic husband, amazing father, one of the best beer pong players, a poet…. Unfortunately I don’t care about those things.

How does that have anything to do with recruiting success? Was Jai Lucas an all star in the league? Did Antigua become a good recruiter cause he was a Globetrotter? Kenny Payne’s stellar four years as a pro? Rod Strickland, the ONLY example satisfying your standard, ain’t walking through that door again. Schools use former players for that kind of juice not coaches

 

[flacat22]

So Pope is a bad judge of talent? I don’t want to throw Mark under the bus like that.
If you cannot convince your friend that Kentucky is a superior place to hone his son’s talent over Missouri then you do not deserve to be a Kentucky assistant. It’s really that simple.

Dint over complicate things guys.

It’s FAR from that simple. This isn’t the 80s anymore when building relationships trumped all. It’s about one thing now and that’s the almighty dollar. Budgeting it, allocating it, using what you have wisely…coaches aren’t wooing moms and dads in the living room anymore, they’re dealing with agents whose goal is to maximize the money to fatten their 10% which all makes it very complicated.

Like it or not (and I feel you don’t like it like I don’t), times have changed and they’re not going back and we either accept it or watch something else.

 

[UK4Life#9]

Oh my bad. We are only supposed to say positive things on this board?

You should have knowledge of the current landscape of college basketball before making any comment, it’s clear that you do not know anything at all.

Little brother fans are hilarious and desperate and it makes me giggle..

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Pretty wild to go after an assistant coach after one good season with this new staff. You asked who has he been lead recruiter on that we landed, but I don’t know how anybody would know that. He might have played a huge part in our transfer portal classes for all we know. I understand we didn’t get Crowe, but it’s hard to be mad at the staff when they put Kentucky in a great position in his recruitment and Missouri came out of nowhere with rumors of them hiring his dad as an assistant. Not much you could do in that battle if those rumors are true.

He choose Mizzou after only being contacted by them in July so I’d say his dad will be hired asap.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

I don’t get enamored with portal players. So landing us mediocre adults who have low ceilings and fade away in a few months doesn’t excite me much.

But landing inefficient freshman who often play worse hoping to get John Wall is a better strategy? Even Cal isn’t going all in on freshman anymore. That tells you everything you need to know.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

So Pope is a bad judge of talent? I don’t want to throw Mark under the bus like that.
If you cannot convince your friend that Kentucky is a superior place to hone his son’s talent over Missouri then you do not deserve to be a Kentucky assistant. It’s really that simple.

Dint over complicate things guys.

Like he’s gonna play for Hart over his own father? You are over here spouting nonsense FR.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Did you see how Rutgers fared last year with their amazing recruiting class? The days of stockpiling 5 star babies to play sgainst men are over until the NCAA reins in the portal and the freedom to switch teams yearly.

To call out a Hart is weak assuming that all you KNOW for certain is that he and the kids father are friends and that his NBA career didn’t meet your unrealistic expectations for an assistant college basketball coach.
Did you know that Crowe’s daddy is expected to be given a spot on the coaching staff at Mizzou as well? Because he’s a great basketball mind that will improve the level of coaching? Please. Hart’s fault too?

Another thing you don’t/can’t know is how much mizz paid versus what UK would pay IF he were a priority.

Bad take on the Hart’s perceived failure on your part and even worse take on his respectable 9 year NBA playing career being somehow relevant to his ability as a successful college recruiter.

But hey would could have watched Bailey and Harper lose 18 games dude! They tore it up. Got drafted too.

 

[yoshukai]

So Pope is a bad judge of talent? I don’t want to throw Mark under the bus like that.
If you cannot convince your friend that Kentucky is a superior place to hone his son’s talent over Missouri then you do not deserve to be a Kentucky assistant. It’s really that simple.

Dint over complicate things guys.

You gotta be a trolling dude , lol .

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

You gotta be a trolling dude , lol .

I would hope so, its way to early on his career here to make any judgements especially coming off a successful season.

 

[flacat22]

But hey would could have watched Bailey and Harper lose 18 games dude! They tore it up. Got drafted too.

Best night in Rutgers basketball history.

 

[ComebackCats98]

I don’t get enamored with portal players. So landing us mediocre adults who have low ceilings and fade away in a few months doesn’t excite me much.

I’d take a “mediocre” player like Oweh, Brea, Butler or Williams over a highly rated recruit who plans to leave in 8 months and needs half of that time to get acclimated to the college game. In fact those “mediocre” players gave us our best tournament run since 2019. If you can get a Cooper Flagg type sure go for it, but players like that are rare. Recruiting high school players has never been as obsolete as it is now with the portal. How many 5 stars did Florida have on their roster last year?

 

[cat tat2]

Last year a lot of people were concerned because we didn’t get Osobor. Honestly, it worked out very well for us IMO. Kinney and Rippey seem to be the focus for a while now. After watching some highlights of them, I think I like Rippey a little more. No matter, Coach Pope has got this!

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Its fair to question all of these guys. Assistants, too. Pope isnt going tk make home run hires 100% of the time. Maybe Hart isnt the guy for the job, but he probably deserves a little more time.

Remember, this is a new era. Mizz likely came in and paid more. Sometimes thats all it takes.

 

[Buckwheat Otay Is Dead]

He was a pretty mid to bad basketball player.

He’s from LA.

He was in charge of G-League Ignite and did such a bad job developing its players that the team folded and most of the prospects came to the league unprepared for the NBA.

He didn’t land his childhood friend’s son at Kentucky.

Now please tell me again… why is he on our staff? What is value exactly?

Who has he served as the lead recruiter on that we landed?

Didnt he give Pope his first coaching job.

 

[Buckwheat Otay Is Dead]

100% agree. He was hyped up as a great recruiter because of his connections but I haven’t seen it. I personally don’t feel he’s done much in his time here. What makes it even worse is Orlando Antigua wanted to stay here and we could have had him. He’s proven he can land top guys here and even at Illinois. It sucks.

I don’t get enamored with portal players. So landing us mediocre adults who have low ceilings and fade away in a few months doesn’t excite me much.

Oh my bad. We are only supposed to say positive things on this board?

 

[flacat22]

Its fair to question all of these guys. Assistants, too. Pope isnt going tk make home run hires 100% of the time. Maybe Hart isnt the guy for the job, but he probably deserves a little more time.

Remember, this is a new era. Mizz likely came in and paid more. Sometimes thats all it takes.

Unbelievable…we, as fans have no idea what the assistants do anymore in this new college basketball landscape. Especially as close to the vest and as secretive as Pope runs the recruiting aspect of the program. What their roles and responsibilities are, what a success versus a failure looks like and what they’re accountable for but when a kid who Pope had backed off on chooses a school who hired his dad and likely wrote a bigger check people call into question that assistant’s performance or value to the program? Laughable.

 

[Dr Jerry Bust]

there are literally dozens of small scoring guards in the portal every year

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Like having Lamont Butler is better than Jeremiah Fears. No thanks.

Personally I’ll take the senior Butler over freshman fears but that’s just me. Fears definitely has way more upside and over performed as a freshman but a healthy butler was a great college player imo.

 

[JPFisher]

Didnt he give Pope his first coaching job.

Pretty sure you're thinking of Fox.