Just another death knell to the argument.
Will James is smarter than the originator of sabermetrics/moneyball though**
From Your Link.
..studies that have shown that lineup construction is, for the most part, immaterial. As long as you generally have your best hitters near the top of the order, the order doesn't matter.
Bwahahahahaha
Keep em coming Shelton. I'm enjoying watching James defeat himself.
Just another death knell to the argument.
Will James is smarter than the originator of sabermetrics/moneyball though**
I feel sorry for you Mike Tolbert. It must suck never having had an original thought.
It's between Renfroe and Detz, not Rea... And since Detz has WAY higher OBP and WAY less power that's what makes me so so right with our lineup.
do you know what "FOR THE MOST PART" means?
Do you not understand that the vast difference in power between Renfroe and Detz, is what makes me (and Cohen) undoubtedly correct in this
do you know what "FOR THE MOST PART" means?
Do you not understand that the vast difference in power between Renfroe and Detz, is what makes me (and Cohen) undoubtedly correct in this
Hahaha nice try dubmass, I'm the one that has argued you from the get-go on this, they are just providing stats to back up that I'm right!
Watching you result to posts like this is great. My "original" thoughts have been proven 100% right in this thread, and it's eating you up. Thus, you blabbering Tolbert...yadayada...original thought...blahblah...
I was right, you of course were not.
If that makes you sleep well at night*
The board knows who is right on this. I was showing Shelton the numbers of AB's with men on base (which was my basis for hitting Renfroe 4th)
Bill literally says "What does this tell me? Your best hitters should bat in the number three and number four spots in the order. Put the speedier (and/or higher on-base) of the two in the number three slot." Because of Detz so far ahead in OBP and so far behind in power, it's patently obvious that Detz hits 3rd and Renfroe 4tg.
Let's hear your lineup Cad. And please explain to us (with your own original thoughts) why you would bat a no power, walk machine in the 4 hole. I can't wait to laugh
If that makes you sleep well at night*
The board knows who is right on this. I was showing Shelton the numbers of AB's with men on base (which was my basis for hitting Renfroe 4th)
Bill literally says "What does this tell me? Your best hitters should bat in the number three and number four spots in the order. Put the speedier (and/or higher on-base) of the two in the number three slot." Because of Detz so far ahead in OBP and so far behind in power, it's patently obvious that Detz hits 3rd and Renfroe 4th.
Let's hear your lineup Cad. And please explain to us (with your own original thoughts) why you would bat a no power, walk machine in the 4 hole. I can't wait to laugh
I posted it in the same thread as yours yesterday dipshit. If you weren't so obsessed with hearing yourself talk you would have seen mine.
And don't act like Rea wasn't discussed yesterday. You are conveniently leaving him out now to try and crawfish since you've been destroyed in this thread.
Wait, you think Rea is better than Renfroe too?!
Leaving him out? Do you and Engie lack that much logic? He needs to hit 5th. Nobody's leaving him out. He is worthless in the Detz-Renfroe 3-4 debate because if you think we need to put either Detz or Renfroe behind Rea in the lineup then you are an idiot
Blahblahblahblah....where did I say Rea was "better" than Renfroe?
You are such a tool. You're so beaten that you're resulting to making **** up.
Bill literally says "What does this tell me? Your best hitters should bat in the number three and number four spots in the order.
| [SIZE=+.5]Lineup Position[/SIZE] | [SIZE=+.5]Number of Times With Men on Base[/SIZE] |
| 1 | 259 |
| 2 | 323 |
| 3 | 351 |
| 4 | 363 |
| 5 | 333 |
| 6 | 314 |
| 7 | 304 |
| 8 | 293 |
| 9 | 288 |
Wait, you think Rea is better than Renfroe too?!
Leaving him out? Do you and Engie lack that much logic? He needs to hit 5th. Nobody's leaving him out. He is worthless in the Detz-Renfroe 3-4 debate because if you think we need to put either Detz or Renfroe behind Rea in the lineup then you are an idiot
[SIZE=+.5]Lineup Position[/SIZE] [SIZE=+.5]Number of Times With Men on Base[/SIZE] 1 259 2 323 3 351 4 363 5 333 6 314 7 304 8 293 9 288
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Renfroe hit primarily in the 4-hole and 5-hole last year -- while Rea primarily hit in the 6-hole and 7-hole. Your statistics only makes Rea's late-order RBI dominance even more impressive.
You can't answer any question haha. No original thoughts from the cheerleader. Whats your lineup Cad?
So, you put BY FAR your best RBI producer in the 5-hole, where he gets significantly fewer chances to get those RBIs. You are arguing using sabermetrics -- link to the numbers -- and immediately go against those numbers to support an agenda...
You are owned. Give up. Or don't. This gets more and more hilarious as we go...
You are embarrassing yourself now. Just admit you were wrong. Putting words in my mouth is not asking a question.
Renfroe hasn't improved at all*** You seriously batting Rea in front of Renfroe?
Whats your lineup Cad.
By the way I'm more right on this than on the ****ing issue
Wrong. No you aren't.
And I already told you my lineup is in the same thread as yours yesterday. Take a look.
Whats your lineup Cad.
I'm more right on this than on the ****ing issue
So copy and paste it. What's your lineup?
No, you aren't. Not even close. Hence why I'm destroying you -- instead of agreeing with you.
Okay Okay here's Cad's lineup
Frazier SS
Bradford CF
Renfroe RF
Rea 1B
Detz 2B
Slauter C
Porter DH
Norris 3B
Henderson LF
Hey! Let's put our top on-base guy... a guy who has a tendency to walk, a lot... a guy who has little power... 5th
Destroying me by saying Rea is more feared that Renfroe this season? Thats a joke. Where are you batting Detz?
Destroying me by saying Rea is more feared that Renfroe this season? Thats a joke. Where are you batting Detz?
A little power? Not yet.
You are scrambling like a little ***** right now. It's really funny, but I'm starting to feel sorry for you. You just don't know when to stop.
He has one HR in his college career. ONE. Way back in 2011.
Not quite, pal. You pulled out username smack already. In the past, that's usually the telltale sign when you head for the Midol.
But I do think you're probably a virgin.
So once again you're wrong...no power, yet.
Sam Frost.... no power, yet.
Im wrong saying Detz has no power? hahahahahahahaha
No, I was saying you are giving him TOO MUCH credit. I thought you were saying he had power. He doesn't. So what's your point
Im at a loss for words.....
Why would you bat him 5th? To walk Rea over to 2nd?