What is Cohen thinking?!

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engie

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Destroying me by saying Rea is more feared that Renfroe this season? Thats a joke. Where are you batting Detz?

"Feared"? Lulz, show me where I said that, if you don't mind. Nick James Spin Cycle - rinse/repeat. You said the best slugging guy hits 4th. I showed you Rea is the best slugging guy on the team. You've been in spin mode ever since.
 

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renfroe hitting 4th is cohen's decision. isnt the first and wont be the last time i disagree with him.

i personally would hit him third but unlike you i hope we score as many as possible and win every game renfroe bats 4th. and when him batting clean up isnt successful i will not get on here and gloat about how smart i am. but hey if thats how you get your kicks then go for it.

more than one way to skin a cat...although i'm sure you know the statistically correst way to do it.

Exactly. Give this man a hand.

The whole argument is that WJ thinks his and only his opinion matters. It doesn't, he's wrong, case closed.
 

Will James

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"Feared"? Lulz, show me where I said that, if you don't mind. Nick James Spin Cycle - rinse/repeat. You said the best slugging guy hits 4th. I showed you Rea is the best slugging guy on the team. You've been in spin mode ever since.

Best hitter with power hits 4th.. Again, whats your lineup?
 

engie

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Best hitter with power hits 4th.. Again, whats your lineup?

So, you are changing your argument...AGAIN...

I've already made my lineup in great detail before. No need to rehash it for the 10th time so you can call it stupid without providing any statistical reasons for your thoughts...
 

Will James

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So, you are changing your argument...AGAIN...

Uh.. nope..

Ive said from the get go that your best hitter with power should hit 4th, obviously I think this is Renfroe. You said Rea would have higher slugging than him this year.. I laughed.. But I have always said that the best hitting guy with power should hit 4th.
 

engie

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Uh.. nope..

Ive said from the get go that your best hitter with power should hit 4th, obviously I think this is Renfroe. You said Rea would have higher slugging than him this year.. I laughed.. But I have always said that the best hitting guy with power should hit 4th.

You actually said the guy with the highest slugging percentage should hit 4th... until I pointed out that it wasn't Renfroe. Hence how you have now changed your approach and effectively moved the goalposts...
 

Will James

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You actually said the guy with the highest slugging percentage should hit 4th... until I pointed out that it wasn't Renfroe. Hence how you have now changed your approach and effectively moved the goalposts...

If I specifically said that your highest slugging % should hit 4th I was wrong but I'd like for you to provide that quote. I brought up AL slugging AND batting average being cleanup. I also said Renfroe would have higher slugging than Rea, although I didn't say that's what justifies his 4 hole spot.

I know for a fact I've said at least 5 times if not more that your best hitter with power should hit fourth. I have a feeling that you are putting words in my mouth again though because I don't know why I'd say that the top slugging % should bat 4th based only on slugging %. I wouldn't have batted Frazier 4th last year for example. Also, what's your lineup?
 

Will James

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You actually said the guy with the highest slugging percentage should hit 4th... until I pointed out that it wasn't Renfroe. Hence how you have now changed your approach and effectively moved the goalposts...

Aha page 2. You take my quote about the AL slugging and then say well Renfroe didn't slugg better than Rea. Nanny nanny boo boo.

I guess that's your modus operandi to twist words around. Never did I say that slugging determines your 4 hole. I just pointed out that the AL 4 hole had the highest slugging AND average. Something Rea
did not do.

At least debate in good faith Engie. Stop putting words in my mouth.
 

engie

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Again, lying about the ******** you actually said. Here's your exact quote. How did I twist it? The FOUNDATION of your argument crumbed -- and you are scrambling.

Which is why I looked at the AL where the 4 hole had the highest Slugging last year. They drive in runs with XBH. Just like Renfroe will do all year from the FOUR HOLE.
You didn't point out anything about average -- until the past couple of posts, average has been a nonfactor in your argument. Again, changing your entire position as you go.

At least debate in good faith Engie. Stop putting words in my mouth.
You want to "debate in good faith" after telling me "you're wrong" and are now constantly moving the goalposts? Is this a joke?

How about you formulate a cohesive argument before getting every constantly modified variation ripped to shreds.
 

Will James

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The AL 4 hole also had the highest BATTING AVERAGE. Slugging was an addition to that, which i mentioned when I first brought that up.

I still don't see any quote saying "you bat your highest slugging % 4th" and I think there's enough evidence on here to what my position is. You know this. Those cleanup hitters did use XBH to drive in runs.
 

engie

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The AL 4 hole also had the highest BATTING AVERAGE. Slugging was an addition to that, which i mentioned when I first brought that up.

I still don't see any quote saying "you bat your highest slugging % 4th" and I think there's enough evidence on here to what my position is. You know this. Those cleanup hitters did use XBH to drive in runs.

But you failed to mention the BATTING AVERAGE part until your initial quote was proven to be ********.

So, if you want batting average as the primary factor, it makes sense to have Detz in the position, does it not? XBH = slugging = Rea. Renfroe is actually the "best" of neither given all the data we have until this point...

Hence how you are STILL no closer to actually providing a real "reason" for wanting Renfroe 4th -- and calling other scenarios "stupid" -- since this whole argument started. You shouldn't have tried so hard to call all other opinions stupid -- and no one would have bothered on taking your theories to task...
 

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But you failed to mention the BATTING AVERAGE part until your initial quote was proven to be ********.

So, if you want batting average as the primary factor, it makes sense to have Detz in the position, does it not? XBH = slugging = Rea. Renfroe is actually the "best" of neither given all the data we have until this point...

Hence how you are STILL no closer to actually providing a real "reason" for wanting Renfroe 4th -- and calling other scenarios "stupid" -- since this whole argument started. You shouldn't have tried so hard to call all other opinions stupid -- and no one would have bothered on taking your theories to task...

The primary factor as I've said from the beginning is your best hitter with power. Our guys with power are Renfroe and Rea. Renfroe is a better hitter. Renfroe will be better than Rea this year hitting slugging OPS, as well as having more speed than Rea which bodes well having him on base with Rea up. Damn this is so simple. Everybody besides you and Cad and the no brained cheerleaders gets it.
 

engie

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Renfroe will be better than Rea this year hitting slugging OPS

These are 3 different things. Did you forget your punctuation?

You are correct that everybody gets it -- they are just laughing at you.
 
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Will James

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These are 3 different things. Did you forget your punctuation?

You are correct that everybody gets it -- they are just laughing at you.

No **** and since you can't refute what I actually say and have to put words in my mouth and try to complicate such an easy cut and dry reality, I'll claim victory.

Your stock has taken a major blow today. As Goat said, you and Cad actually care about that so no hard feelings.
 

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No **** and since you can't refute what I actually say and have to put words in my mouth and try to complicate such an easy cut and dry reality, I'll claim victory.

Your stock has taken a major blow today. As Goat said, you and Cad actually care about that so no hard feelings.

Did someone hijack your computer? Talk about pot meet kettle, you just described yourself.

Haha, it has been joyful watching you miserably fail today.

ETA: "your stock has taken a major blow, you actually care about that"....<< This coming from the guy who spends 8 hours a day trying to convince a message board that he has more knowledge of baseball than a MLB manager. Haha, keep making yourself look more idiotic Will, really please do.
 
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Will James

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Did someone hijack your computer? Talk about pot meet kettle, you just described yourself.

Haha, it has been joyful watching you miserably fail today.

The whole Cohen doing everything I've been advocating must be a tough paradox for you
 

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The whole Cohen doing everything I've been advocating must be a tough paradox for you

Nope, but watching you start getting defensive because you've been skull17ed all day has been quite hilarious. You are nothing anymore when it comes to your "modern day baseball" and "Boyd is king" trash. You have been smacked around like a ***** this afternoon and evening, and it has been a pleasure.
 

Will James

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Nope, but watching you start getting defensive because you've been skull17ed all day has been quite hilarious. You are nothing anymore when it comes to your "modern day baseball" and "Boyd is king" trash. You have been smacked around like a ***** this afternoon and evening, and it has been a pleasure.

Its gotta kill you going against Cohen like this.
 

CadaverDawg

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Its gotta kill you going against Cohen like this.

Haha, you're absolutely defeated aren't you?

Maybe Coach34 ( the one you idolize so much that you had to put his approval in your signature)...will come by to call you his little brother again and make you feel special. Bwahahahahaha

How embarrassing
 
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