What is the expectation (record)?

Scarlet5

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I like all other RU fans would love to compete for National Championships. But, realistically, we play in the B1G East Division (we'll arguably have one of the toughest schedules year after year). We will play OSU, Michigan, MSU, & Penn St EVERY year. We will play 9 conference games every year. We no longer are allowed to schedule FCS games. We have Washington, UCLA, and Miami on future schedules.

IMO, over a dozen year span, we'd be accomplishing something if in Week 10 or 11 of a particular year, we actually had a chance at getting to the B1G Championship Game. Would you be happy with the following 12 years (in no particular order) or am I too conservative?

1 4-8
1 5-7
2 6-6
3 7-5
1 8-4
2 9-3
1 10-2, Rose Bowl?
1 11-1, play in conf championship game

We'd go to 10 bowl games in the 12 years, and 6 of them would be bigger than anything we've been to before. Let's say we go 6-4 in the 10 bowls.

These 12 years, with bowls, translates to 95-59...a .617 win %.

I'd also add that we'd COMPETE in the games with the big boys 90% of the time...maybe not win, maybe not have a chance in the game to win, but compete. Let's do this in the next 12 years, then discuss playing for the final four every year.

Would you sign up for this right now? I would.

Maybe you can guess where I'm going...

Schiano '04-'11 (8 years) was 61-39, a .610 win%, including 5-1 in bowls. Schiano is the biggest name on any realistic list you can create. He IS a name. No one from Indiana or Michigan knows who Cristobal is. No one cares what the coach at Temple does. I am in the camp that believes GS has learned a thing or two in the last four years. I know we WILL play defense. I do believe he needs a competent OC on the staff (part of his 'learnings').

Get it done. Bring Greg back!
 

MikeR0102

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I'm not going to be happy with any 4-8 season. Yes the schedule is tough, but Penn State still isn't world beaters and our permanent crossover game the next 6 seasons is Illinois.

To be fair, in another thread I said I would sign up for what Iowa or Georgia Tech are. A lot of 6-6/ 7-5 seasons with a BCS/NY6 type season every 5 or 6 years. I actually think Rutgers was kind of trending this way under Schiano, as we had the 10-2 season in 2006, had some 7-5/8-4 seasons between, and then I think if Schiano would have stayed we would have gone to a BCS bowl in 2012.
 

mildone_rivals

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I think it all depends on who we hire.

But I think that, regardless of who we hire, it will be hard to win more than 4-5 games next year. We will be weak on D simply due to youth and questionable talent in the LB/DB groups. With a great coach and offensive coordinator, we could have a functional offense. But it's unclear if the offense will be good enough to compensate for the defense.

I can't even start to project out past 2016 until I see what he have in a coaching staff. But it's definitely going to take a few years of much improved recruiting combined with a much improved coaching staff to get the point where we can have a winning conference record, IMO.