Fair post. I'd be totally fine with going to the end of the bench. I did see a sense of urgency on defense lately night. We have got to make some shots. We aren't nearly as far off as the lunatics are trying to talk others into believing.
What is wrong with this fan base??
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Low will absolutely open the floor and help tremendously. He might even start firing away and hitting at a good clip. That will give them so much more confidence. Right now thats our main problem, they all lack confidence and don’t trust themselves. Getting a point guard back to change the defensive schemes might do the trick.
He might not help as much as we think but he will help and potentially help in droves. This ain’t sustainable without a PG. Aberdeen isn’t a PG.
He might not help as much as we think but he will help and potentially help in droves. This ain’t sustainable without a PG. Aberdeen isn’t a PG.
Maybe why Pope should have actually signed a backup point guard. But then again this whole roster he put together doesn't fit and is a mess.
Can’t disagree. Not getting a backup point guard after last season is inexcusable. That’s the issue here, there are so many little off shoots of wrong on top of big wrongs that it’s concerning.
it’s like a wrong tree. And those trees have branches of little wrongs. Just concerns me. He should have seen some of this.
That I agree with, but people keep saying 3 starters and I think that’s a bit of a crutch considering Pope knew a realistic timeframe for JQ.
It's ballercal, aka CardsStink, aka manofmanynames, dubyaCdubya, etc.
Pretty much what i figured. You're not getting instant gratification so you're mad like children. Again it's Dec 3rd, I've seen many teams turn things around. This board really sucks now. Richie BWO and many other
used to be reasonable good posters all are impatient whiny ones now with the always dumb posters from rafters. Sad times. I take pride in Pope and Stein having KY connections as well.
I'm Stuway from previous board. Was a senior and 20 year poster. Im not a troll. And I'm not blaming the teams struggling on the fanbase as jedwear misconstrued. The fanbase just mostly sucks and is all millennial impatient whiny asses it appears
used to be reasonable good posters all are impatient whiny ones now with the always dumb posters from rafters. Sad times. I take pride in Pope and Stein having KY connections as well.
I'm Stuway from previous board. Was a senior and 20 year poster. Im not a troll. And I'm not blaming the teams struggling on the fanbase as jedwear misconstrued. The fanbase just mostly sucks and is all millennial impatient whiny asses it appears
Been gone from this board a while (login issues). Picked a helluva time to return.
Bottom line is this, fans have a right to be angry over the product on the floor. It sucks. I’m not happy at all. Fans have a right to be worried about recruiting. After 15 years of top 2 classes on autopilot, it’s unsettling signing no one. I am beyond a little concerned.
Flipside, suggesting a mid year coaxhing change in early December of year 2 after year 1 went better than many expected makes one sound like a moron. This isn’t the NBA. College basketball coaches don’t get fired in December for losing games. Scandals? Yes. Stinker early season results? No
My guess is if this year goes as south as it’s looking, Pope will be retained another year and if next year is also mediocre to terrible, we’re looking for another coach for the 2027-28 season.
I feel like a national title and final four are definitely out of the picture this year. So if anyone needs a glimmer of hope for salvaging a decent but not great season, Tubby’s 2000-2001 team was 3-5 on Dec. 16 with losses to unranked St. John’s, No. 17 UCLA, home loss to unranked Penn State, neutral loss to unranked Georgia Tech and a loss at No. 2 Michigan State. The penn state and Ga Tech losses were considered bad losses at the time.
That team ended up winning the SEC-East and SECT, got a 2 seed and got upset by USC in the Sweet 16.
Bottom line is this, fans have a right to be angry over the product on the floor. It sucks. I’m not happy at all. Fans have a right to be worried about recruiting. After 15 years of top 2 classes on autopilot, it’s unsettling signing no one. I am beyond a little concerned.
Flipside, suggesting a mid year coaxhing change in early December of year 2 after year 1 went better than many expected makes one sound like a moron. This isn’t the NBA. College basketball coaches don’t get fired in December for losing games. Scandals? Yes. Stinker early season results? No
My guess is if this year goes as south as it’s looking, Pope will be retained another year and if next year is also mediocre to terrible, we’re looking for another coach for the 2027-28 season.
I feel like a national title and final four are definitely out of the picture this year. So if anyone needs a glimmer of hope for salvaging a decent but not great season, Tubby’s 2000-2001 team was 3-5 on Dec. 16 with losses to unranked St. John’s, No. 17 UCLA, home loss to unranked Penn State, neutral loss to unranked Georgia Tech and a loss at No. 2 Michigan State. The penn state and Ga Tech losses were considered bad losses at the time.
That team ended up winning the SEC-East and SECT, got a 2 seed and got upset by USC in the Sweet 16.
Still a lot of season left but if Pope misses the tournament it is wild to think of how Tubby Smith would be our last coach to never miss the NCAA Tournament.
SMH. Just like your bad reading comprehension with my post last week, this crazy post is on par with that. On to ignore for you, people may lose brain cells just reading this stupidity
Those 3 players aren’t going to do
on offense none of them can shoot . They’re getting paid so there’s no excuses. 22 million and there not even making the tournament. Jq was never playing till the end of the season Lowe is more than likely getting surgery the seasons over this is Kentucky idgaf that’s your fault the way you built your soft a$$ team and that’s what they are soft asf . Idgaf what he did 30 years ago his glory days are over . That’s part of his problem with selling the program as it was 30 years ago nobody cares the way he talks is just to weird for 18 year olds to take him seriously. Not calling for him to be gone yet but if s**t don’t change soon and they don’t beat Gonzaga Indiana and Saint John’s and they need to be top 3 in the conference win the conference championship or for f**k sake make the championship game In the conference. We haven’t done s****t in years and this is 99% cal fault because of the way he left it . He left it so bad that pope had to win NOW which is the standard regardless but it’s been to many bad seasons the past 7 years . Worst decade of Kentucky basketball by far as far as I know or the worst 7 year stretch has been awful
Those 3 players aren’t going to do
on offense none of them can shoot . They’re getting paid so there’s no excuses. 22 million and there not even making the tournament. Jq was never playing till the end of the season Lowe is more than likely getting surgery the seasons over this is Kentucky idgaf that’s your fault the way you built your soft a$$ team and that’s what they are soft asf . Idgaf what he did 30 years ago his glory days are over . That’s part of his problem with selling the program as it was 30 years ago nobody cares the way he talks is just to weird for 18 year olds to take him seriously. Not calling for him to be gone yet but if s**t don’t change soon and they don’t beat Gonzaga Indiana and Saint John’s and they need to be top 3 in the conference win the conference championship or for f**k sake make the championship game In the conference. We haven’t done s****t in years and this is 99% cal fault because of the way he left it . He left it so bad that pope had to win NOW which is the standard regardless but it’s been to many bad seasons the past 7 years . Worst decade of Kentucky basketball by far as far as I know
Pitino made 6 straight once eligible though he would have missed it during the 14-14 rebuild year had they been eligible. Outside of Pitino Tubby is our only other coach to have never missed the NCAA Tourney and he got pretty much zero respect from our fanbase for that fact.
Imagine the roster those two could have built with 22 million dollars
Who's ever said this? We have fans that didn't want John Wall or Anthony Davis or Julius Randle? Who are they? Surely you know since you seem to be keeping tabs on it.
There's a big difference between depending on players like that and depending on players like Devin Askew, Chris Livingston, or Aaron Bradshaw.
I think we're all smart enough to know the difference, despite your failure to recognize the distinction in your narratives.
This. And the drop off between Mo and Jelavic/Williams or Lowe/Aberdeen isn't as significant as the injury crutch crowd would have us believe. We've replaced glorified role players with more glorified role players. Just two weeks ago we were watching Mo clank all of his threes against Michigan State, or Lowe force bad shots and commit turnovers in the clutch final minutes against Louisville.
We haven’t been a factor since 2017. That’s almost a decade ago. No number 1 seeds, no conference regular season wins, I’m not even sure if we have won the SEC tournament. Pope promised the world this year and his coaching has been sub par. The folks in Lexington say there are tons of things going on behind the scenes. Turmoil amongst players, turmoil amongst staff, and this is a reflection of leadership. Name me one coach that is a stud that’s mister nice guy? I can’t think of any. Pope is in way over his head.
Starts at the top. Mitch needs to go
The shooting / murder on campus by his player(s), semi supposed / alleged cover up, multiple players involved, then he doubled down and was seemed highly insensitive to the murdered girl’s family, then his players come out with pistol hand signs during intros on live TV and Alabama basically scoffed at it. It was a really bad look and that’s definitely not a guy Barnhart would offer until he has to.
Anyone who knows Barnhart can surely see he didn’t offer that guy last time lol.
Not only that, Tubby also never lost in the first round. Made round of 32 minimum for 10 years. If OTS could’ve gotten to a second FF in 2003, 2004 or 2005, his tenure would be looked upon more fondly by more fans.
I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be upset. Im just saying that calling for Popes head already is premature. Im upset, I don't like how our season has started. But I'm also trying to see the big picture with injuries and him being relatively new here. I still have faith that he is smart and will figure this out
The only "3rd grade stuff" was getting maniputated by the Pope's intial press conference (of which I am guilty). The initial reaction was spot on.
But everyone's ire should be directed at Barnhart, and not Pope. He has been a disaster of an AD. The Pope and Sten hires are just the final nails in the coffin.....
....hopefully.
There ain't nothing wrong with the fan base. It is the Ws and Ls we are getting for $22 million per year.
3rd grade stuff is a person already passing judgement on Stein. Have fun kicking rocks.
Easy to pass judgement when Sumrall (who actually has head coaching experience) was available for over a year and Barnhart failed to act....again.
It’s not particularly pretty. I‘m just warning my fellow Kevin.Post a picture if it happens, never seen a burnt nutsuck
You know, have you ever met a Kevin that wasn’t awesome? Me neither.
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2018 was the last year we won the SEC tournament, which is just sad. We used to own that thing.
I think for me, its you can tell he's in over his head. You have whispers of team turmoil, staff turmoil. NIL being iffy. Getting blown off the floor by ranked teams. Bad roster construction, poor recruiting. We need to cut bait after this year. Or else we get a Stoops scnenario.