Do you have to attend the school to be considered a diehard fan? I see comments all the time on the message boards and Veazy's blog discrediting someone bysaying they never even went to whichever university they claim to bea fan of. What constitutes being a true fan?</p>
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Do you have to attend the school to be considered a diehard fan? I see comments all the time on the message boards and Veazy's blog discrediting someone bysaying they never even went to whichever university they claim to bea fan of. What constitutes being a true fan?</p>
Do you have to attend the school to be considered a diehard fan? I see comments all the time on the message boards and Veazy's blog discrediting someone bysaying they never even went to whichever university they claim to bea fan of. What constitutes being a true fan?</p>
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you can't claim being a diehard unless you've been cheering for that team for 10+ years.
Any less and you're just another guy from Hattiesburg that bought a Bama hat last October.
Any less and you're just another guy from Hattiesburg that bought a Bama hat last October.
Sometimes situations do not allow one to go to the school they want to. Myself for instance, got married and supported my wife while she went to school at Mississippi State and received her degree. I have grown up a MISSISSIPPI STATE fan from the get go. Most all of my family is DAWG FANS, and that is just how it is. Now I am in the military and can't get back to State and finish my degree. I am going to college, and may retire come back to Starkville area and take some classes at State. But for now, it is what it is. I am and will always be a BULLDAWG FAN.
State who are diehards. My guess is that it's completely normal. Many more people go to college now than 20+ years ago.
Now...when you have the 25 year old douchebag that wears a Bama hat everywhere who failed out of Gulf Coast Community College, then you have a problem.
Now...when you have the 25 year old douchebag that wears a Bama hat everywhere who failed out of Gulf Coast Community College, then you have a problem.
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I could out and tell people tomorrow that I'm an Alabama fan. How would they know the difference? I mean, if you're worried about what other people think, you're missing the whole point. If you're not completely pissed when the team loses, you're not really a fan.
You don't need a "pass" to pick who you root for in my eyes especially if you're life long...but based on your occupation alone you can pick whoever you want whenver you choose as far as I'm concerned.</p>
Otherwise I'll go with Halpert.</p>
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Otherwise I'll go with Halpert.</p>
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Agree that it depends on the length of your fandom. My best friend and drinking companion never attended a single class at MSU. Circumstances and finances prevented it. His wife, however, has a BA, 2 Masters and work toward a doctorate from State. He's been a Bulldog Club member for over 20 years. Puts his money where his mouth is. He's about as diehard as they come, not just some guy who bought a cap at Wally World.
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They say the Bear used to travel to all the towns across Alabama and convince the locals to give a small percentage of their paycheck to the UA football program. He convinced them that they'd all, even the common man, get to be considered part of the team, and feel like they were contributing, no matter if they went to school there or had the opportunity to go to games. Then he won, and thus more people joined in. Just the perfect storm of events. And at the time, all you really got was your local instate teams on tv I suppose, so they all grew up on Alabama football. Pretty cool if you ask me.
.....because my degree is not from State. I never officially enrolled at State. However, I attended games althrough the 80s. My father worked at State for years. I pretended to be a student there on the weekends (partying with high school friends) in the early 90s.
With that said, I can not stand some loud talking redneck fan shoting off at the mouth about some school they never attended. I hate.....HATE those MF'n redneck Alabama fans in Columbus. Most of them have NEVER been to Bryant Denny. Now that is ridiculous and I tell them to their face they are not real fans. I have a cousin that fits this discription. I have been to BD more than this person. Same for a razorback fan neighbor. THis a-hole admitted to me that he has only been to Fayetteville once. His entire life. This SOB has the money to go. However, he just sits at home with two house flags, magnets and flags on the truck. Then gets piss drunk watching the game and walks out in his yard woo pign after it is over. I hate that MFer.
So, I would not say you have to have attended. HOWEVER, at least go to the games and have some connection to the university other than just watching on TV.
With that said, I can not stand some loud talking redneck fan shoting off at the mouth about some school they never attended. I hate.....HATE those MF'n redneck Alabama fans in Columbus. Most of them have NEVER been to Bryant Denny. Now that is ridiculous and I tell them to their face they are not real fans. I have a cousin that fits this discription. I have been to BD more than this person. Same for a razorback fan neighbor. THis a-hole admitted to me that he has only been to Fayetteville once. His entire life. This SOB has the money to go. However, he just sits at home with two house flags, magnets and flags on the truck. Then gets piss drunk watching the game and walks out in his yard woo pign after it is over. I hate that MFer.
So, I would not say you have to have attended. HOWEVER, at least go to the games and have some connection to the university other than just watching on TV.
...in order to be considered a diehard fan.
I'll go one step further, unless you've read the entire U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence from it's original transcript at the Rotunda for the Charters of Freedom, then you're not a trueAmerican.
This is the dumbest argument and biggest penis measuring contest on the sports interwebs. If you carehow someone else ranks yourfan-liness, you've got other problems to worry about.
I've seen more Saints stickers on cars in Birmingham, AL in the last 7 months than I did on the coast in 5 years. They don't bother me either.
I'll go one step further, unless you've read the entire U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence from it's original transcript at the Rotunda for the Charters of Freedom, then you're not a trueAmerican.
This is the dumbest argument and biggest penis measuring contest on the sports interwebs. If you carehow someone else ranks yourfan-liness, you've got other problems to worry about.
I've seen more Saints stickers on cars in Birmingham, AL in the last 7 months than I did on the coast in 5 years. They don't bother me either.
I'm convinced that most people pick what college they pull for based solely on geography (and winning helps, too). If someone didn't attend a certain school, but is actually a full-on supporter (i.e. gives money, buys season tickets) then sure. If a parent or spouse attended, who am I to judge who you affiliate yourself with. If, however, you've never been on campus and just root for a team that's good, then you're a bandwagon jumper. For this reason, if you are rooting for any Mississippi team, you've probably got a mean masochistic streak. And, hypothetically, if you can't even remember the name of your starting qb, but can rattle off the names and occupations of the parents and siblings of a point guard you're recruiting (COUGH-wildcatfans) then you deserve to be mocked for obvious reasons. Also, if you are looking for arguments on newspaper stories to be well thought out, good luck (the ones up here are nothing but UC fans calling OSU fans bandwagon jumpers and OSU fans calling UC fans frontrunners).
if you claim to be an msu fan, you are a diehard fan. We haven't had the success that other programs have had in football. football is what the success is judged by in sports at schools. its easy to be a sidewalk Alabama fan, not an msu fan. I went to school at millsaps to play football. I was too white, too slow, and too small like most of the rest of us to play for my team. So, in general, most msu fans are diehard, but not all fans of other schools that have been successful.
...attended to be fan. <div>
</div><div>BUT if you are going to talk **** to me, you damn sure better have graduated from high school and at least attended the univeristy you are running smack on. Don't bring me the "yeah, I graduated from Wyotech but I've been a Bama fan since I was six" crap. Or the "I didn't want to go to Auburn to get my Mech Eng degree so I attended State and root for Bama. 17 that! <div>
</div><div>Go to the school you love or love the school you went to. If you can't do either of those, cheer all you want but keep your damn mouth shut.</div></div>
</div><div>BUT if you are going to talk **** to me, you damn sure better have graduated from high school and at least attended the univeristy you are running smack on. Don't bring me the "yeah, I graduated from Wyotech but I've been a Bama fan since I was six" crap. Or the "I didn't want to go to Auburn to get my Mech Eng degree so I attended State and root for Bama. 17 that! <div>
</div><div>Go to the school you love or love the school you went to. If you can't do either of those, cheer all you want but keep your damn mouth shut.</div></div>
..... depends on what schoolthe person is a fan of. It doesn't bother me at all if a person is a sidewalk alum of State, OM, Arky, KY (football), SC, etc. - the underdogs. If a guy didn'tattend State, for whatever reason, but showed up to most of the games over the past decade, they have my blessing. Same for the other little 6. But I can't stand it when some person that went to Delta State or Holmes is a damn bama, gator, lsu, notre dame, usc, etc. fan - I refuse to give them "fan" status because it's too damn easy being a fan of those schools.
He tells the story of "The Bear" making an appearance like it was Jesus Christ coming to talk to them about giving 3% of their paycheck to Alabama football so that the fine young boys of small town name could get themselves an education.
With no scholarship limits, the Bear could take the small town football hero and use him on the scout team for four years and come back to the small town to get the next great one. And many times, small town hero couldn't crack the dressed roster in four years at Alabama, but may have been able to be a starter at Auburn. The Bear would recruit these kids just to keep them from going elsewhere. It was genius.
Scholarship limits went from unlimited in 1972 to 105 until '78 and 95 from '79 through '92 and have been 85 since.
With no scholarship limits, the Bear could take the small town football hero and use him on the scout team for four years and come back to the small town to get the next great one. And many times, small town hero couldn't crack the dressed roster in four years at Alabama, but may have been able to be a starter at Auburn. The Bear would recruit these kids just to keep them from going elsewhere. It was genius.
Scholarship limits went from unlimited in 1972 to 105 until '78 and 95 from '79 through '92 and have been 85 since.
I still liked watching college sports, but I didn't really care who won since I wasn't at a big school. Once I got in school here I started keeping up with all of the big three sports a lot more. If you actually attend games, or if you can't go then at least watch most of the games you are a fan.Its only annoying for someone to be fan of a school when they only watch the games while that team is good and they have no connection such as going to school or at least making it to campus every now and then. ETA: I didn't mean to reply to halpert, but his guideline has the basic idea.
I think you have to have some sort of affiliation to a school to be considered a die hard fan. If you don't personally go to the school, you have to have a brother, sister, parent, some sort of relative thatwent there. Otherwise you probably just jumped on a bandwagon or started cheering for who was the popular pick at that time.
One of my really good friends is a "die hard" bama fan. Yet he works/teaches at MSU, and his family has no affiliation to Bama. Parents didn't go there, relatives didn't go there, nothing. Butcheering for Bamawas the popular thing to do when he was 10 years old so that's what he does.
One of my really good friends is a "die hard" bama fan. Yet he works/teaches at MSU, and his family has no affiliation to Bama. Parents didn't go there, relatives didn't go there, nothing. Butcheering for Bamawas the popular thing to do when he was 10 years old so that's what he does.
being on campus for 4+ years...i consider myself a "die hard" of a team that my parents were affiliated with so i was born a fan bc its all i ever knew. that being said the passion and loyalty to my school completely trumps that and made me realize that while i may be a "die hard" for a team it doesnt compare to being an alumni
I don't like it when some "die-hard fan" who never attended The Mississippi State University, telling me I'm not a "good fan".
I believe anyone who graduates from any school, has the right to be whatever kind of fan they want to be.
I believe anyone who graduates from any school, has the right to be whatever kind of fan they want to be.
My father has never attended a class at MSU, nor has my son, but he is 13. Neither did the older gentleman season ticket holder that we sat next to. They are only three of the diehard fans that I know. We need sidewalk alumni. Thanks for serving sldrboy2002.
I have loved Miss State since my cousin played for them nearly 40 years ago. There is no way you can understand just how deep my support runs. You say that if I had actually attended that I would care more. I doubt it, but since I have no way of measuring fanhood, I have no way of disproving your opinion.FlabLoser said:
I dropped out of high school to raise a family (not the easy route and I don't recommend it). I have two kids, both have graduated college. One graduated with a masters from Ole Miss and an undergrad from Delta State. The other has a degree from Miss State. Both have careers in their respected field of study which can be a good measure of ones educational choice. Had I attended college, it probably would have been Miss State. It may have not been since I was targeting Optometry (that was a real possibility with my grades and wasn't a stretch). I say that I still would have been a State supporter no matter what college I attended.
So, here is my opinion
I contend that people that assume that I cannot be as much of a fan as someone that attended State to be an stupid as a brick when in comes to common sense.
I graduated from state, and consider myself die-hard. I didn't even know what I was going to do when I got to state. The only thing I knew for sure was that I was going to MSU or nowhere. That said, I have many friends who did not attend state, for different reasons, that are every bit the die-hard fan I am.
If you try to watch pretty much every game whether your team is good or bad, and whether you're by yourself or with other fans... And you feel extreme sadness or anger with most losses, and extreme highs when your team wins, then you are most likely "die-hard".
If you try to watch pretty much every game whether your team is good or bad, and whether you're by yourself or with other fans... And you feel extreme sadness or anger with most losses, and extreme highs when your team wins, then you are most likely "die-hard".
but if you went to school there, you should pull for your school. If I was a casual Bama fan, but went to State, I should never, ever pull for Bama to beat State.
If you're a sidewalk alum, and if you really and truly couldn't afford to go to that school, well OK. There is nothing wrong with being a fan of whatever school you want to pull for.
If you can not help it, and you pull for Alabama and you are a MSU student, when MSU and Bama play, the respectable thing to do is to buy a visiting team ticket and NOT sit in the MSU student or alum section. And if you're THAT big of a fan, you'll find the 35 bucks to get a ticket over there.
What I can't stand are the bandwagon fans. At least the people with the Bama tatoos had to put up with DuBose and Shula. The people that own a Tim Tebow jersey, and are now buying Alabama crap, and about seven years ago were corndogs. Those people suck. And they are the ones that usually run the most smack.
If you're a sidewalk alum, and if you really and truly couldn't afford to go to that school, well OK. There is nothing wrong with being a fan of whatever school you want to pull for.
If you can not help it, and you pull for Alabama and you are a MSU student, when MSU and Bama play, the respectable thing to do is to buy a visiting team ticket and NOT sit in the MSU student or alum section. And if you're THAT big of a fan, you'll find the 35 bucks to get a ticket over there.
What I can't stand are the bandwagon fans. At least the people with the Bama tatoos had to put up with DuBose and Shula. The people that own a Tim Tebow jersey, and are now buying Alabama crap, and about seven years ago were corndogs. Those people suck. And they are the ones that usually run the most smack.
I don't want to take anything away from those that didn't attend but truly support the university, but I have a hard time imagining someone who didn't spend a significant amount of time on campus and around starkville feeling the same connection that l have to the university. I don't know if that makes them not "die-hard" or just different. There's just something to be said for experiencing the student life: Attending games in the student section, hanging out with athletes around the dorms and in class, spending a good portion of your life living within earshot of Davis-Wade, etc.
Bama fans are the worst bandwagon jumpers/sidewalk fans. Probably between 80 and 90% of the fan base.My main problems come with a) a fan who has absolutely no ties to a school -didn't go there, no family or close friend went there, might not even live in the same state as that school, but claims to be a die-hard fan and b) fans who go to one SEC school and cheer for another.I sometimes give my buddies that go or went to USM a break for cheering for another school because they have like 20 fans and the games are boring, but even they could at least pick an in-state school. If half the people in MS who choose to pull for Florida, LSU, Bama, or Auburn would pull for an in-state school or even divide up and pull forboth SEC schoolsby donating, buying merchandise, season tickets, etc. Mississippi might could have a national contender occasionally. But everybody wants to take the easy way out and jump on bandwagons and be fair-weather fans. I did not mean to write a book like this.</p>