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What percent chance to you give Lebby to keep his job after next season?

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thekimmer

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I will say 10%.

I think next year he will be just playing out the string. Recruits know he is destined for the scrap heap. So do prospective assistant coaches. That means he won't be able to get the players in that he needs and we know he can't coach up the ones he does get. Even if he cans Hustler he still would be in charge of hiring his replacement and top assistants are not keen on coming to a dying program either.

The only reason I give him 10% is he has Taylor under center and that gives him a slim chance. Frankly, he deserves to be fired right now just for keeping KT on the bench the last half of the season.

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msualohadog

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>50% if he hires a decent defensive coordinator. KT is good enough to win enough games to get us to a bowl game. If we go to a bowl game, he stays. Defense will tell the tale. Our defense was actually good enough to get us to a bowl game this year. Problem was, they were criminally mismanaged. Here's an irony... If we'd have gone to a bowl game this year, simply getting to a bowl game next year wouldn't be good enough. Lebby losing might have gained him an extra year.
 
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DerHntr

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50/50. We improved slightly this year. We had at least 2 wins that we blew and I hope he has learned from them. I had us at 4-8 last year and he had us clearly in position to be at least 7-5. I think it’s 50/50 he can do that next year with a new DC.
 
Choctaw Dawg

Choctaw Dawg

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We have 10 games against P4 opponents next year, I think we need to pump the brakes on anything beyond 7. 8 wins would be the absolute ceiling next year
 
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msudawg1200

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He HAS to make a bowl, and HAS to win more than 1 SEC game. These are non negotiable. Period. He also, not from my point of view but others, better beat Ole Miss. 6-6 or 7-5 and a bad loss to the Rebs, and he could be done also. I'm saying there is a 70% chance he's canned next year.
 
PBRME

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If he makes the right changes on the staff, and hits the portal hard in the trenches I give it 60%
He whiffs again this offseason and it’s 0%.
 
Darryl Steight

Darryl Steight

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85Bears said:
Looking at the schedule I’m not seeing 6-7 wins, what games are you looking at ?
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We said this until about September this year too. Yet there we were Friday in the first half at 14-10 with a chance to go bowling. Look how much changed from where we were just a few months ago:

UT (both of them) were not as good as anyone thought. Could have won 1 or both.
UF sucked. Should have beaten them.
We lost our best DL second game.
Blake was hobbled all year and had a subpar season. (Lebby could have coached that differently for sure)
Austin Simmons got hurt early, forcing Lane to play Wally Pipp/Tom Brady and never looked back.
All of a sudden, we look to have 6 new SEC coaches next season

Yes, we shat the bed, but if KT had had more snaps this year, perhaps it would have given us a fighting chance. We'll see next year.

I'm at almost exactly 50/50 on Lebby at the moment.
 
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RopeDawg

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thekimmer said:
I will say 10%.

I think next year he will be just playing out the string. Recruits know he is destined for the scrap heap. So do prospective assistant coaches. That means he won't be able to get the players in that he needs and we know he can't coach up the ones he does get. Even if he cans Hustler he still would be in charge of hiring his replacement and top assistants are not keen on coming to a dying program either.

The only reason I give him 10% is he has Taylor under center and that gives him a slim chance. Frankly, he deserves to be fired right now just for keeping KT on the bench the last half of the season.

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70%.

Outside of Starkville Lebby is viewed positively for the improvement we made from last year to this year so recruits and transfers don’t view his future the same way this board does. Let’s see what we can bring in talent wise to build around Kamario.
 
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patdog

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About 10%. We're looking at about 4 wins again next fall unless he just pulls in a monster portal class.
 
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OG Goat Holder

OG Goat Holder

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Very low, considering he's now committed to a QB that doesn't fit his system.

The number 1 motive for the next coach will be to retain Taylor. Hopefully this guy is Brian Newberry at best or Dan Mullen at worst.
 
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L4Dawg

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RopeDawg said:
70%.

Outside of Starkville Lebby is viewed positively for the improvement we made from last year to this year so recruits and transfers don’t view his future the same way this board does. Let’s see what we can bring in talent wise to build around Kamario.
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This is about right. The view of Lebby outside of MSU people is much more positive.
 
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Slow Natives

Slow Natives

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He needs to put all the NIL $ into the trenches, then find some serviceable athletes for other positions, keep Taylor and Fluff and we could be pretty decent.
 
DesotoCountyDawg

DesotoCountyDawg

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IF he has a good portal haul and makes staff changes I’d give him about a 40-50 percent chance. If the offseason is a dud, about a 0.
 
mcdawg22

mcdawg22

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I don’t think he improves results enough to retain him. That being said, I am hoping he does. I’m not suggesting he is win the “right way” like Croom, but in this last two years his teams have played hard, there have not been any major off the field issues, or locker room rumors. He doesn’t throw his players under the bus like Freeze. I’ll also share that a friend went to the player autograph session at the Landing and was impressed how engaging the players were and willing to chat it up with kids. Now does that mean I would rather win 4 with model citizens vs winning 11 with players racing for pink slips like UGA? No. But I am wishing the guy can succeed here.
 
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Perd Hapley

Perd Hapley

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POTUS said:
Let’s see how the portal goes. He goes 6-6 or 7-5 and he’s golden. I’d say he’s got about 50% chance.
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Lol. 6-6 and he’s golden? That’s a horrid approach.

I mean, we fire a guy not even through Year 1 for going 5-7, and then turn around and say his replacement has 3 whole years just to get us to 1 game better than that, and if so he gets 4 whole years and $18 million? Nonsensical.

7-5 is the rock bottom, bare minimum expectation for Lebby in Year 4….and there are certainly scenarios in play that still make him fireable even at that record. He damn sure better be gone at 6-6.
 
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Villagedawg

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He has to win 6. If so, he's good. I put that at about 40% chance of happening.
 
Perd Hapley

Perd Hapley

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thekimmer said:
I will say 10%.

I think next year he will be just playing out the string. Recruits know he is destined for the scrap heap. So do prospective assistant coaches. That means he won't be able to get the players in that he needs and we know he can't coach up the ones he does get. Even if he cans Hustler he still would be in charge of hiring his replacement and top assistants are not keen on coming to a dying program either.

The only reason I give him 10% is he has Taylor under center and that gives him a slim chance. Frankly, he deserves to be fired right now just for keeping KT on the bench the last half of the season.
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This is the worst part of waiting a year too long to do the inevitable. You turn a 1 portal cycle reset into 2. The transfers we need aren’t going to consider going to a lame duck program. The donors aren’t going to go big with NIL offers for a lame duck coach either. They’ll pay to keep who we have that’s actually worth keeping, but that’s it.

Penny saved / dollar foolish. There’s less than a $5 million buyout difference between firing now vs. firing this time next year, which is apparently too rich for our blood in a climate where even Kentucky can shell out $30 million to fire their best coach ever.

There’s also going to be no contract extension, meaning just one year left on his deal after 2026, which is a kiss of death in Mississippi when you only have 4 year contracts allowed.

Again, everyone knows where this is going. Why drag it out?
 
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beachbumdawg

beachbumdawg

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thekimmer said:
I will say 10%.

I think next year he will be just playing out the string. Recruits know he is destined for the scrap heap. So do prospective assistant coaches. That means he won't be able to get the players in that he needs and we know he can't coach up the ones he does get. Even if he cans Hustler he still would be in charge of hiring his replacement and top assistants are not keen on coming to a dying program either.

The only reason I give him 10% is he has Taylor under center and that gives him a slim chance. Frankly, he deserves to be fired right now just for keeping KT on the bench the last half of the season.

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TrueMaroonGrind

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Need to see what we do with assistants, OL and DL. Before any of y’all forget if we get to 6-6 that’s 3 conference wins. 7-5 is 4 conference wins. He will stay in either of those scenarios.
 
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HomeBoyDawg

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With the deck stacked against him in so many ways, he needs a one of these guys...and that's exactly what I'm hoping for!
 
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