What This Country Needs Is More Conservative Democrats!

m.knox

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Now I appreciate Ruy Teixeira. He might be one of the few lefties not yet indoctrinated into the cult. That said, he's way off base on this one. There is no such thing as a "conservative democrat" but I appreciate his motivation of trying to return the democratic party to a state of normalcy.

https://www.welcomestack.org/p/what...&r=2cuzgj&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

It’s easy to underestimate how much the Democratic Party has changed in this century. In particular, you can miss how liberals have gone from being a voice in the choir to the choir director. Cast your mind back to the beginning of the century. At that point, a mere 28 percent of Democrats described themselves as liberal, and two-thirds were either moderate or conservative.

Fast-forward to today, and the liberal share has more than doubled to 59 percent while the moderate/conservative share has declined drastically. It’s the liberals’ party now. Moderates are just along for the ride. And as for conservatives, well, they’re on the verge of disappearing entirely.

In 2000, nearly as many Democrats identified as conservative (24 percent) as liberal. Today, that number is only eight percent—and dropping. That’s a ratio of over 7-to-1 between liberals and conservatives, a stark change from the beginning of the century when those groups were almost at parity.

Now, many Democrats might look at these data and see this development as a feature, not a bug. At last, we’re rid of those pesky conservatives!

But in reality, this development has unbalanced the party and enabled cultural radicalism to dominate it and its supporting institutions. As liberals moved to the left on these (and other) issues, there were fewer and fewer voices in the party that could be relied upon to push back because they were, in fact, conservative on many of these issues. Instead, liberals have largely pushed through an open door, embracing one radical position after another on immigration, race, gender, crime, climate, and more.
 

m.knox

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Yet another call for the democratic party to return to normalcy....

The center-left needs to step up and show America what it stands for​


https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/6095970-center-left-populism-challenge/

It’s not enough for Democrats to oppose left-wing ideas as electoral losers. They also need to say why those ideas are wrong on the merits. Otherwise, they’ll leave the impression of a weak center-left that won’t fight for its own principles.

For example, Democrats should unequivocally reject progressive demands to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement as a de facto return to open borders, which violates Americans’ right to decide who enters our country and on what terms. The same goes for progressive demands for Medicare for All, which carries an astronomical price tag of at least $35 trillion over a decade.

The center-left should also steer clear of slopulist proposals that promise everyone new tax cuts or new government benefits supposedly paid for by soaking the rich. Instead, Democrats should target tax relief on working families, by cutting payroll taxes and replacing the lost revenue with a progressive consumption tax.
 
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While I appreciate the sentiment, I think what we need more of is more moderate republicans. The reality is the right has wackos just as the left does, but the moderates are completely cowering in the face of real risks of being primaried, etc. from the right.
 
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yoshi121374

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While I appreciate the sentiment, I think what we need more of is more moderate republicans. The reality is the right has wackos just as the left does, but the moderates are completely cowering in the face of real risks of being primaried, etc. from the right.

Absolutely facts. Both parties have their crazies, the Dems for the most part have not let them take over the party on a national scale. MAGA and the far right have completely taken over the Republican party and more moderate politicians are dead in the water, so much that they aren't even attempting to run.

I pray that once Trump is gone, the MAG craziness will go away and we can move more to the middle.
 

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While I appreciate the sentiment, I think what we need more of is more moderate republicans. The reality is the right has wackos just as the left does, but the moderates are completely cowering in the face of real risks of being primaried, etc. from the right.
I'll go just one more step, what we need are more moderate republicans and Democrats...how can we be focused on transgender kids, Kennedy center closing, an arch, with all the problems we have
 
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m.knox

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Absolutely facts. Both parties have their crazies, the Dems for the most part have not let them take over the party on a national scale. MAGA and the far right have completely taken over the Republican party and more moderate politicians are dead in the water, so much that they aren't even attempting to run.

I pray that once Trump is gone, the MAG craziness will go away and we can move more to the middle.

".... not let them take over the party" is not the same as "them taking over the party."

Let's not pretend it isn't happening. I mean, Hasan Piker is wildly popular among many of your constituents.
 
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".... not let them take over the party" is not the same as "them taking over the party."

Let's not pretend it isn't happening. I mean, Hasan Piker is wildly popular among many of your constituents.

The only people I ever see sharing Piker are MAGAS. I literally never see anything from him shared by Dems.
 

m.knox

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The only people I ever see sharing Piker are MAGAS. I literally never see anything from him shared by Dems.

Literally? Is now when you say it's AI?









 
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Literally? Is now when you say it's AI?









lol yoshi is pretending he isn’t the most popular streamer on the left. So what if he is a radical jihadist who says America deserved 9-11 and the US is actually a bigger terrorist threat to the world than Al queda
 

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lol yoshi is pretending he isn’t the most popular streamer on the left. So what if he is a radical jihadist who says America deserved 9-11 and the US is actually a bigger terrorist threat to the world than Al queda

I'm sharing my personal experience. I have never watched Piker, and I don't pay any attention to him.

I do find it hilarious after watching all of the White supremacists who love MAGA being shared by posters on this board regularly to see y'all try so hard to act like Piker is somehow as popular on the left. Show me any post on this board that has been shared by a poster on the left.
 

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I'm sharing my personal experience. I have never watched Piker, and I don't pay any attention to him.

I do find it hilarious after watching all of the White supremacists who love MAGA being shared by posters on this board regularly to see y'all try so hard to act like Piker is somehow as popular on the left. Show me any post on this board that has been shared by a poster on the left.
The largest funder of actual white nationalists is the far left southern poverty law center. Your people.
 

LafayetteBear

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".... not let them take over the party" is not the same as "them taking over the party."

Let's not pretend it isn't happening. I mean, Hasan Piker is wildly popular among many of your constituents.
Hermy: You keep talking about this Hassan Piker dude. Who is he?
 

m.knox

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lol yoshi is pretending he isn’t the most popular streamer on the left. So what if he is a radical jihadist who says America deserved 9-11 and the US is actually a bigger terrorist threat to the world than Al queda

He's not the only one.... lol... Look at the chubby gay guy from the Bay area.

I'm surprised they haven't started with but, but, but......... WHATABOUT Rick Fuentes.
 

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Hermy: You keep talking about this Hassan Piker dude. Who is he?

The Hill is another left leaning outlet. You're welcome for educating you on what's going on in your party.

Fetterman says he ‘can’t compete’ with Piker: ‘Base loves him’​


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/6097498-john-fetterman-hasan-piker-pennsylvania-base-midterms/

Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman (D) on Thursday said he feels like he has “lost to Hasan Piker,” following the popular left-wing streamer’s recent comments about the Islamic militant group al Qaeda.

“He’s an individual that just declared that we are worse than al Qaeda,” Fetterman told Fox News’s Chad Pergram. “And Democrats are campaigning with him, defending him, and my — our base loves him. So, I mean, I can’t compete with that.”

During a recent interview with Axios, Piker argued that the U.S. commits more terrorism than al Qaeda.

“Pound for pound as far as the number of deaths, yes,” the progressive pundit said. “We have caused tremendous terror all around the world.”

Piker, who is one of the most popular streamers on the social media app Twitch, campaigned with Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed (D) in the Democratic primary.

Republicans have criticized the Senate hopeful for his association with the streamer, running ads featuring Piker’s 2019 statement that “America deserved 9/11.” He later apologized for the messaging.

The GOP’s official account on the social platform X posted the clip of Piker’s latest rhetoric on Thursday, writing, “Every single Democrat who is supported by this garbage can of a human being must condemn him immediately.”
 

m.knox

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I'm sharing my personal experience. I have never watched Piker, and I don't pay any attention to him.

I do find it hilarious after watching all of the White supremacists who love MAGA being shared by posters on this board regularly to see y'all try so hard to act like Piker is somehow as popular on the left. Show me any post on this board that has been shared by a poster on the left.

Who are these white supremacists shared by posters on this board?
 
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The largest funder of actual white nationalists is the far left southern poverty law center. Your people.

The gal from the SPLC was said to be romantically involved with one of the white nationalists.... Can't make this up. CNN too.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/12/politics/exclusive-splc-fraud-cfo-charges

A former employee of the Southern Poverty Law Center has been arrested in California on charges that she oversaw secret payments to informants inside of White supremacist groups, one of whom she was allegedly living with and had a romantic relationship with at the time.

The woman, Heidi Beirich, previously ran the SPLC’s project tracking hate groups in the US. The Justice Department has alleged that the program, which is no longer running, defrauded donors who did not realize they were helping to pay individuals inside the same groups that the SPLC aimed to root out.
 
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The gal from the SPLC was said to be romantically involved with one of the white nationalists.... Can't make this up. CNN too.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/12/politics/exclusive-splc-fraud-cfo-charges

A former employee of the Southern Poverty Law Center has been arrested in California on charges that she oversaw secret payments to informants inside of White supremacist groups, one of whom she was allegedly living with and had a romantic relationship with at the time.

The woman, Heidi Beirich, previously ran the SPLC’s project tracking hate groups in the US. The Justice Department has alleged that the program, which is no longer running, defrauded donors who did not realize they were helping to pay individuals inside the same groups that the SPLC aimed to root out.
Dems still refuse to acknowledge the SPLC scandal even happened. Now they’re doing the same thing with all the act blue fraud.
 
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Dems still refuse to acknowledge the SPLC scandal even happened. Now they’re doing the same thing with all the act blue fraud.

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lol.... They are emotionally unhinged.
 

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lol.... They are emotionally unhinged.
Yep. That is exactly how that post presents itself.
 

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Absolutely facts. Both parties have their crazies, the Dems for the most part have not let them take over the party on a national scale. MAGA and the far right have completely taken over the Republican party and more moderate politicians are dead in the water, so much that they aren't even attempting to run.

I pray that once Trump is gone, the MAG craziness will go away and we can move more to the middle.
Hahahaha
 
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