What Would Happen if Our Football Team Refused to Play

greenknight

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If our football team refused to play I would relieve them all of their scholarships and expel them from school. Mizzou made a huge huge mistake. Sports are now more important than school BAD CHOICE. They just ruined college sports with that precedent
 

RBS05

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If our football team refused to play I would relieve them all of their scholarships and expel them from school. Mizzou made a huge huge mistake. Sports are now more important than school BAD CHOICE. They just ruined college sports with that precedent
You're putting racial equality on a college campus on the same level as removing a moronic coach?
 

MozRU

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To the lawyers on this board:

Due to the Mizz FB protest and getting what they wanted, because the school couldn't afford to pay BYU $1,000,000 plus loss of game day revenue, do yo think the scholarship contract will be reworded after this year, nationally?

If players know they have the school balls anything is game.

Do you think they might throw in language; "must perform at a deemed high level at require events or forefit scholarship" ??

(I throw in "deemed high level," to keep a team from suiting up and just kneeing it every play the entire game in protest.)
 
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RUtix4me

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I guess 1-0 might be out of the question in most peoples minds.....except if your Flood
 

MozRU

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I posted this later in the night. I am hoping to hear from lawyers on the board, so I am posting again:

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To the lawyers on this board:

Due to the Mizz FB protest and getting what they wanted, because the school couldn't afford to pay BYU $1,000,000 plus loss of game day revenue, do yo think the scholarship contract will be reworded after this year, nationally?

If players know they have the school balls anything is game.

Do you think they might throw in language; "must perform at a deemed high level at require events or forefit scholarship" ??

(I throw in "deemed high level," to keep a team from suiting up and just kneeing it every play the entire game in protest.)
 

MozRU

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Sorry to be a nudge, but now the guys in my office are asking the question and stating; "after this, there is no way colleges are going to allow players to be the puppet master and control the money."

Any lawyer out there have any input where this could go? Anyway to put in the scholarship contracts, " You don't want to play? Fine. Bye bye scholarship" ?
 

Caliknight

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What it looks like I don't know, but you can guarantee they are being being looked at.

You can't allow what are now essentially employees the ability to not do their jobs without any repercussions.
 

MozRU

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What it looks like I don't know, but you can guarantee they are being being looked at.

You can't allow what are now essentially employees the ability to not do their jobs without any repercussions.

thanks. God, this board has really slowed down. In my 12yrs on the board, I haven't seen it this slow.
 
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MS-RU

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What it looks like I don't know, but you can guarantee they are being being looked at.

You can't allow what are now essentially employees the ability to not do their jobs without any repercussions.

I agree but I also don't think Mizzou will do anything drastic and put themselves at a disadvantage to the rest of CFB or the SEC. If anything happens, it will have to done at the NCAA or conference level.
 

derleider

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If our football team refused to play I would relieve them all of their scholarships and expel them from school. Mizzou made a huge huge mistake. Sports are now more important than school BAD CHOICE. They just ruined college sports with that precedent
I think college ADs and presidents ruined college sports by making them into huge money makers to the point where the players had this kind of power in the first place.

Go ahead. Kick 30 guys off the team. That basically puts you at PSU level from a couple of years ago - maybe worth the risk if you are PSU. If you are Missouri - then what - you are god awful for a few years. YOu get a reputation as being a place that isnt friendly to blacks - probably not a good idea in a sport dominated by black players.

And what of the players - you know they will get picked up by some other school. There is no way the courts are going to allow the schools to collude to not offer kids scholarships.

Players finally woke up and noticed that they are driving the bus - especially in college - where its not rich owners who control every but mostly the boards of public schools and the fans (the rich fans - but none the less - still fans - not owners.)
 
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SirPerceval

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Sorry to be a nudge, but now the guys in my office are asking the question and stating; "after this, there is no way colleges are going to allow players to be the puppet master and control the money."

Any lawyer out there have any input where this could go? Anyway to put in the scholarship contracts, " You don't want to play? Fine. Bye bye scholarship" ?
It doesn't matter what is in the contract - you still have to be willing and able to enforce the contract.
 

PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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To the lawyers on this board:

Due to the Mizz FB protest and getting what they wanted, because the school couldn't afford to pay BYU $1,000,000 plus loss of game day revenue, do yo think the scholarship contract will be reworded after this year, nationally?

If players know they have the school balls anything is game.

Do you think they might throw in language; "must perform at a deemed high level at require events or forefit scholarship" ??

(I throw in "deemed high level," to keep a team from suiting up and just kneeing it every play the entire game in protest.)

No because it already has clauses for following team rules/procedure and participating. I think boycotting a game certainly would fall under that.

This is from BC's

 Athletics Grants-In-Aids can be cancelled or reduced during the period of the award for the

following reasons:
○ If a student-athlete renders himself/herself ineligible for intercollegiate competition, or
○ If a student-athlete fraudulently misrepresents any information on an application, letter of intent

or financial aid agreement, or
○ If a student-athlete engages in serious misconduct warranting substantial disciplinary penalty, or
○ If a student-athlete voluntarily withdraws from a sport at any time for personal reasons
.

However, the recipient's financial aid may not be awarded to another student-athlete in the
academic term in which the aid was reduced or cancelled. Also, a student-athlete's request for
written permission to contact another four-year collegiate institution regarding a possible
transfer does not constitute a voluntary withdrawal.
 

megadrone

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If you can equate refusing to play that one game to leaving the team, then sure, scholarship is null and void, or revoked. I don't know if you can equate the boycott to misconduct, unless there's a specific team policy against boycotting.
 

Nosoj

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If our football team refused to play I would relieve them all of their scholarships and expel them from school. Mizzou made a huge huge mistake. Sports are now more important than school BAD CHOICE. They just ruined college sports with that precedent
Disagree. This was about more than sports, it just took sports for anyone outside of Missouri to pay attention to it.
To the lawyers on this board:

Due to the Mizz FB protest and getting what they wanted, because the school couldn't afford to pay BYU $1,000,000 plus loss of game day revenue, do yo think the scholarship contract will be reworded after this year, nationally?

If players know they have the school balls anything is game.

Do you think they might throw in language; "must perform at a deemed high level at require events or forefit scholarship" ??

(I throw in "deemed high level," to keep a team from suiting up and just kneeing it every play the entire game in protest.)
I'm not a lawyer, but I see no way that Missouri will open that can of worms. I guarantee they don't want headlines in the off-season that the university cut the guys who were protesting discrimination on campus. Especially since the boycott had the public support of the head coach and the athletic director.
 

PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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If you can equate refusing to play that one game to leaving the team, then sure, scholarship is null and void, or revoked. I don't know if you can equate the boycott to misconduct, unless there's a specific team policy against boycotting.
If coach orders you to play and you refuse I think that is considered misconduct. I mean if you boycotted work do you expect no repercussions?
 

Nosoj

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What it looks like I don't know, but you can guarantee they are being being looked at.

You can't allow what are now essentially employees the ability to not do their jobs without any repercussions.

If coach orders you to play and you refuse I think that is considered misconduct. I mean if you boycotted work do you expect no repercussions?
Let's remember that the university and the NCAA don't want to do ANYTHING that would further equate the players to employees.
 

RU31trap

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Right now I say that Missouri does absolutely nothing. Wait until 7/1/16 have university officials meet with NCAA officials and draft rules and regs to deal with situations similar to Missouri. You can't have a group of kids hold a university hostage because they want a specific individual fired. There has to be consequences or else you will have chaos. All this BS is coming to an end real soon.
 
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