Ole Miss and Auburn have recently announced increases. What would you do with Mullen and staff in a reasonable fashion?
What would you offer Dan Mullen and his staff as AD?...
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2014 is either a big payday for Dan or a consolation prize for services rendered.
State desperately needs to show that it is committed to attracting and retaining quality assistants - immediately.
A few assistants need to be relocated.
2014 is either a big payday for Dan or a consolation prize for services rendered.
State desperately needs to show that it is committed to attracting and retaining quality assistants - immediately.
A few assistants need to be relocated.
Tell him we have an extra $800k-$1 million for raises for his staff. Let him know if he does well he could be getting that much more next year.
From a PR perspective....
He needs to be making more than Freeze.
From a State perspective, he's a Liberty bowl win and one more winning season from having us in one of the greatest eras of State football, particularly because of an 80% winning clip against our arch-rivals. That means you give him a raise, and more importantly, increased assets to pay his assistants. The extra TV money will be rolling in in the not-to-distant future, and the football program deserves to get a big chunk of that.
From a business perspective, you make any new contract extremely incentive-laden, and include a buyout.
He needs to be making more than Freeze.
From a State perspective, he's a Liberty bowl win and one more winning season from having us in one of the greatest eras of State football, particularly because of an 80% winning clip against our arch-rivals. That means you give him a raise, and more importantly, increased assets to pay his assistants. The extra TV money will be rolling in in the not-to-distant future, and the football program deserves to get a big chunk of that.
From a business perspective, you make any new contract extremely incentive-laden, and include a buyout.
I'd give Dan
some time of incentives based deal, depending on next year's results. For the present time, I'd give the assistances raises. Collins, specifically.
some time of incentives based deal, depending on next year's results. For the present time, I'd give the assistances raises. Collins, specifically.
Agreed with the proviso that I'd give Mullen a minor raise for appearance's sake bearing in mind that a five percent salary increase for him is still a six digit salary increase.
I agree we should pay our assistants more, but we must pay the ones we want to keep around more and raise funds to pay for better assistants to replace the mediocre ones we do have (I'm looking at Koenning and Sallach here).
Like others have said. Mullen should get a new package of incentives and no base pay increase. He should get a new allocation to pay assistants to keep our momentum and continuity.
I also would like for him to be highly encouraged to increase the quality and ranking of our special teams. Maybe this will get him to either give it up or work on it much harder.
I also would like for him to be highly encouraged to increase the quality and ranking of our special teams. Maybe this will get him to either give it up or work on it much harder.
I'd give him $1 more than what Freeze is making, then I'd hold a press conference and tell the media we have the highest paid coach in the history of Mississippi. #OURSTATE #lolz
In all seriousness, I wouldn't give Dan jack after this season. Leave the door open for him to earn a fat payday in January 2015.
In Starkville (or Oxford for that matter) why would a person need $3m? Have y'all seen Dan's house? He doesn't even pay for his cars. He's not losing sleep because we're not paying him $300,000 more.
In all seriousness, I wouldn't give Dan jack after this season. Leave the door open for him to earn a fat payday in January 2015.
In Starkville (or Oxford for that matter) why would a person need $3m? Have y'all seen Dan's house? He doesn't even pay for his cars. He's not losing sleep because we're not paying him $300,000 more.
Not that I have anything against him, but what does Scott Sallach do for us? I know he's the tight ends coach, but seriously, why do we have this guy on staff (other than the fact that he's Mullen's college buddy)? Is he a stud recruiter (I'm guessing no after the last few years)?
For next year
I'd give what he has, plus $100,000 for each SEC win.
Going forward, don't mind increased pay, but with a reduced buyout plan.
No more $2.7MM (or so) for four years.
This coaching salary spin up is not far from topping out.
A lot of TV $, but reduced fans in the stands.
I'd give what he has, plus $100,000 for each SEC win.
Going forward, don't mind increased pay, but with a reduced buyout plan.
No more $2.7MM (or so) for four years.
This coaching salary spin up is not far from topping out.
A lot of TV $, but reduced fans in the stands.
i think the best way to do coaching contracts is a solid base pay with incentives....if he wants to be among the highest paid coaches in the sec, give him the outlet to do it and he can be exactly that. if he wants to suck it up and stay down at the bottom, he can do that as well.
ultimately, his ability to win will dictate his value to us and at the end of the year, if hes not happy with what he earned, he only has himself to blame. thats the most equitable and it reflects his success or failure. that way, if we have to go in another direction, we dont end up blowing millions to get rid of him and from his perspective, if he kicks ***, his salary will be excellent. dan, if your not happy with your salary at the end of the season, win more games and recruit better. why should his salary not reflect that?
ultimately, his ability to win will dictate his value to us and at the end of the year, if hes not happy with what he earned, he only has himself to blame. thats the most equitable and it reflects his success or failure. that way, if we have to go in another direction, we dont end up blowing millions to get rid of him and from his perspective, if he kicks ***, his salary will be excellent. dan, if your not happy with your salary at the end of the season, win more games and recruit better. why should his salary not reflect that?
Yes a raise. Unlike many wooly ones on here, I knew we were depleted at secondary this year. Many thought that losing two NFL caliber DB's weren't going to hurt us much, but some knew better. We were exploited early, lost 2 to injuries one for a few games, one for a year. But at the end of the year we played much better. Some of it has to do with Collins being smart and dropping 8,9 in obvious passing downs, but at least for the most part the Db's covered the proper zone, and did a great job of getting TO's and incomplete passes.
Yea, but Robinson Cano didn't need $240,000,000 either, but he got it. Just because someone doesn't need it, doesn't mean they don't want it. I agree with others that he should get incentives. I really feel like thats how most coaching salaries should operate. If you perform, you get paid. If you don't, you don't. Basically what Shamoan said.
Big difference in a player getting paid and a coach getting paid. Cano will be lucky to reach 40 before he retires, and after that he likely won't work again. Mullen can coach until the day that he dies.
But a guy who makes $2.65m/yr who isn't a free agent and being shopped by every team doesn't need an extra $350,000 just because there is some kind of made up arms race going on.
And for the sake of argument Cano earned $240,000,000. Dan hasn't even earned his $2.65m/yr.
But a guy who makes $2.65m/yr who isn't a free agent and being shopped by every team doesn't need an extra $350,000 just because there is some kind of made up arms race going on.
And for the sake of argument Cano earned $240,000,000. Dan hasn't even earned his $2.65m/yr.
Of the following phrases you just used, which ones warrant a raise?
Which of those warrants giving him a raise? I'm not saying fire him, but at best it sounds like he may have figured out by the "end of the year" what he should have been doing all along and that to me means he, at best, did what is asked of him in the beginning which doesn't warrant a raise.
Which of those warrants giving him a raise? I'm not saying fire him, but at best it sounds like he may have figured out by the "end of the year" what he should have been doing all along and that to me means he, at best, did what is asked of him in the beginning which doesn't warrant a raise.
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I'd have the contract read something like this for 2014 season.
regular season wins
7 wins or less you get your current salary (not sure what it is now but lets just say $2.5 million for example)
8 wins you get 7.5% increase ($2.6875 million)
9 wins you get a 8.5% increase on top of the 8 win number ($2.916 million)
10 wins you get a 10% increase on top of the 9 win number ($3.208 million
11 wins you get a 10% increase on top of the 10 win number ($3.528 million)
12 wins you get 15% increase on top of 11 win number ($4.058 million)
2015 he'd get an increase on the base or stay the same depending on 2014 outcome with a similar incentive plan.
I'd give him $500 to $600k to spread to his assistants how he saw fit.
Me personally?
I'd give Collins $100 to $200 of that. Hire an offensive coordinator and pay him current plus $100 to $200. Then i'd spread the remaining $100 to $200 over the other 6 coaches.
regular season wins
7 wins or less you get your current salary (not sure what it is now but lets just say $2.5 million for example)
8 wins you get 7.5% increase ($2.6875 million)
9 wins you get a 8.5% increase on top of the 8 win number ($2.916 million)
10 wins you get a 10% increase on top of the 9 win number ($3.208 million
11 wins you get a 10% increase on top of the 10 win number ($3.528 million)
12 wins you get 15% increase on top of 11 win number ($4.058 million)
2015 he'd get an increase on the base or stay the same depending on 2014 outcome with a similar incentive plan.
I'd give him $500 to $600k to spread to his assistants how he saw fit.
Me personally?
I'd give Collins $100 to $200 of that. Hire an offensive coordinator and pay him current plus $100 to $200. Then i'd spread the remaining $100 to $200 over the other 6 coaches.
If we hired a new coach, for whatever reason in the next 3 years,
I'd pay him like this for year 1.
$1.5 million guaranteed
6 wins = $1.75 m
7 wins = $2.0 m
8 wins = $2.25 m
9 wins = $2.65 m
10 wins = $3.15 m
11 wins = $3.65 m
12 wins = $4.25 m
13 wins (Natty Champ) = $5.0 million
Obviously that might be written a little different and maybe a little more or less depending on who we hired. I'd definitely make it incentive based though. Each year after that the guaranteed money would go up b/t 0% and 20% depending on how we performed and finished.
Actually I might even consider decreasing salary after year 1 for under performing. This might make it easier to let go of coaches instead of firing them.
I'd pay him like this for year 1.
$1.5 million guaranteed
6 wins = $1.75 m
7 wins = $2.0 m
8 wins = $2.25 m
9 wins = $2.65 m
10 wins = $3.15 m
11 wins = $3.65 m
12 wins = $4.25 m
13 wins (Natty Champ) = $5.0 million
Obviously that might be written a little different and maybe a little more or less depending on who we hired. I'd definitely make it incentive based though. Each year after that the guaranteed money would go up b/t 0% and 20% depending on how we performed and finished.
Actually I might even consider decreasing salary after year 1 for under performing. This might make it easier to let go of coaches instead of firing them.
Mark Hudspeth currently makes $750k. I'm not sure what we paid Mullen when he started, but i don't think it was much higher than $1.5 million.
My point isn't so much that $1.5 million is the correct number. My point is that proper incentives are good in many job offerings/opportunities. You are getting a decent (i type that and laugh considering its $1.5 million) salary, and if you perform well, you get paid a **** ton more.
My point isn't so much that $1.5 million is the correct number. My point is that proper incentives are good in many job offerings/opportunities. You are getting a decent (i type that and laugh considering its $1.5 million) salary, and if you perform well, you get paid a **** ton more.