What would your reaction be if Greenberg's replacement was
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I would follow them closely. I definitely was behind the Stansbury decision because of the lack of control, etc....but I still like him, Cunningham, Grant, and Power, and would be pulling for them. Especially after the way Stansbury left in a classy way. I would just hope they didn't raid Mississippi during recruiting season and take all of the best talent. I don't think they would ever go to a Sweet 16 or anything, but wouldn't be surprised if that crew could make an NCAA appearance.
that lets his team determine how hard they want to work instead of pushing them to get better, then they have hit a home run.
MSU needed to go in another direction and I don't think that anyone argues that, but I have my suspicions to say the least as to whether Ray will be as successful. Also, sometimes people just need a change of scenery so I think Stansbury might very well be a great hire for another school.
last 7 years. And even then, he only has to win 1 tournament game in those 7 years. ONE
Jackie didnt get "retired" because of his first 10 seasons, it was because of his last 3
Polk didnt get nudged to retire because of what he did in the 1980's- but because he finished 7th or worst in the SEC 5 of his last 7 seasons.
And Stansbury now isnt the guy that won an SEC title- he is the guy that has 1 NCAA win in his last 7 seasons as a coach.
Jackie didnt get "retired" because of his first 10 seasons, it was because of his last 3
Polk didnt get nudged to retire because of what he did in the 1980's- but because he finished 7th or worst in the SEC 5 of his last 7 seasons.
And Stansbury now isnt the guy that won an SEC title- he is the guy that has 1 NCAA win in his last 7 seasons as a coach.
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What makes you so certain he's going to do that? Personally, I think he'll get it done but I also think that there's just as much reason to think he won't as there is to believe that he will. The track record of guys coming into the SEC with either no or minimal coaching experience over the last few years is not great.
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all we can do is sit back see where he takes us. I'm just pointing out that bar isnt really set that high for him like some people are trying to make it out to be. We have a few people here that try to compare 14 years of Stansbury to just 2-3 years of other people.
It took Stansbury 4 seasons to make an NCAA Tourney
It took Stansbury 6 seasons to win the SEC- 1 overall title in 14 seasons
Stansbury won 4 NCAA Tourney games in 14 years- only 1 in his last 7 seasons
If you look at the beginning of Stansbury's career- he inherited a talented team that was expected to be pretty good. He and Williams had spent 2 seasons rebuilding after the Final Four run- and it still took him 4 seasons to make the NCAA Tourney. But Ray is coming into it when the program has crashed- and has to start from square one. We just have to see what he can do
It took Stansbury 4 seasons to make an NCAA Tourney
It took Stansbury 6 seasons to win the SEC- 1 overall title in 14 seasons
Stansbury won 4 NCAA Tourney games in 14 years- only 1 in his last 7 seasons
If you look at the beginning of Stansbury's career- he inherited a talented team that was expected to be pretty good. He and Williams had spent 2 seasons rebuilding after the Final Four run- and it still took him 4 seasons to make the NCAA Tourney. But Ray is coming into it when the program has crashed- and has to start from square one. We just have to see what he can do
Unless the incoming freshmen are more talented than I realize, Ray is almost starting a program from scratch. I think he has to get to the Tourney two times in seven years to keep his job, but I think it's a pretty tall order to get there from where we are now.Coach34 said:
but while you say that 2 tourneys in 7 years isn't setting the bar very high, I know that we've only had two coaches in the history of our program to do that. I also know that a lot of young up and coming coaches from other SEC schools have struggled mightily to get that done. I have no issue with you having higher expectations than a lot of people, but that doesn't mean that some of your personal minimum requirements are foregone conclusions that they will or should happen. We shall see how easy it truly is over the next few years
that "anybody" could have done as good as Stansbury. Well we hired "anybody", so I guess we will find out.
Since, 2016 will only be his 2nd year.<div>Coach34 said:
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