What's our attendance next weekend Saturday vs. Auburn?
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I think so. I was pretty surprised and disappointed we didn't get there last Saturday. Having won two series in a row (hopefully having clinched 3 by that time) will help.
We have some crappy fair weather fans.
We have some crappy fair weather fans.
Agreed. It seems that it's a lot harder for us to break 10K. We have to be rankd like 1 or hosting a regional or super. The only reason Ole Miss gets the crowds that they do is because of the student turnout. If you watch when they pan the crowd after a big play, the students don't have a clue about what is going on. It's a social event to try and get laid. The grandstands are half full.
As a student who has attended most games, I'll say that each time we have a game at home the weather has been god awful. I think next weekend will be packed. There's a lot of buzz right now. I think the spring game likely being a bust will help too. Only 1 QB and only 25,000 can attend.
I was there yesterday for their all-time record crowd. There were lots of empty seats in the grandstand.
Why would you even attempt to look at actual attendance? It isn't even included in box scores any more. All that matters -- and that anyone keeps track of -- is paid attendance. The Saturday game of SBW will go WAY over 10k paid attendance and could easily end up as a top 10 crowd all-time.
Our past 2 home weekends' official attendance:
Florida: 8414, 8564, 7660
LSU: 8068, 9341, 7686
Our past 2 home weekends' official attendance:
Florida: 8414, 8564, 7660
LSU: 8068, 9341, 7686
Wow, just wow.
Yeah, good to know that MSU baseball fans don't show up anymore when we're playing well**
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So to
refute me you pull up pics from SEC tourney title game? You showed me. I tell you what, if we got over 9500 butts in seats avg for the weekend then ill eat crow, Einstein.
refute me you pull up pics from SEC tourney title game? You showed me. I tell you what, if we got over 9500 butts in seats avg for the weekend then ill eat crow, Einstein.
Every bit of it. You made a blind *** statement saying "our fans don't show up anymore." I showed you that our fanbase shows up like NO OTHER for college baseball when the team gives them a reason to. The past 2 weekends, they've given us a reason to -- and it is SBW. Every instance this decade that our fanbase thought that we had a good team on SBW, we've churned out TOP 10 ALL-TIME college baseball crowds -- and the football game has conflicted with the baseball game in the past. 2003, 2006, 2007.
The attendance is what it has always been -- it just isn't filling the chairbacks due to stupid *** lifetime seating contracts. The outfield is what it's always been. We will set our ALL TIME RECORD in paid attendance this year. Butts in seats is trivial because NO ONE measures it anymore.
Hilarious that you think we can suck for a decade -- show the FIRST signs of being back -- and you think that we should be dominating college baseball attendance(actual) the very next week -- and if we aren't "our fans don't show up anymore." No one bothers to acknowledge that it's taken 10+ years of sustained success at a pretty high level for OM to build their attendance -- and their "actual" is still rarely better than ours. They've just got 6k+ season tickets in chairbacks to sell now -- we've got 4300.
There will be 12k plus weather permitting on Saturday. There are going to be people at that game that haven't been back since the Clemson series.
OFFICIAL NCAA Average Attendance:
1999 - 3234(7th)
2000 - 4635(3rd)
2001 - 2823(7th)
2002 - 6501(2nd)
2003 - 6091(2nd)
2004 - 6214(2nd)
2005 - 6160(3rd)
2006 - 6918(3rd)
2007 - 6795(3rd)
2008 - 6008(6th)
2009 - 6301(5th)
2010 - 6065(6th)
2011 - 6104(6th)
2012 - 6131(6th)
current is right at 7k/game leading into SBW, Alabama, and South Carolina. We've got a realistic shot to finish at 7300+.
Yeah, our attendance is falling apart. Damn the lack of support**
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Well, you and goat be sure to count them as they scan their tickets. It's a stupid *** metric that isn't even actually measured anymore. BY ANYBODY IN COLLEGE BASEBALL.
The real reason that Goat threw in the little "actual fans" caveat is because he's scared that OM is going to outdraw us on the big weekend -- so he chose a trivial number that can't be proven one way or the other.
Cohen and the players would disagree here.
You are a complete and utter fool. Who gives a **** what is measured? Those numbers are ******* you up your *** YET AGAIN.
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That's why they'll never be what MSU once was and could be again. It ain't all about numbers with us.
So you
disagree on my point that our attendance has not taken a hit since our "glory years." Gotcha.
ETA: what's hilarious to me is you assume all of these points but cannot comprehend the simplest of points of the initial post.
disagree on my point that our attendance has not taken a hit since our "glory years." Gotcha.
ETA: what's hilarious to me is you assume all of these points but cannot comprehend the simplest of points of the initial post.
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Sure, attendance TOOK a hit -- it has sucked the past few years -- everyone admits that.
My problem is the timing of the bitching now -- when the ship has been righted and the fans are coming back. Attendance has rebounded BIGTIME this year... and attendance for every single home SEC series has been/will be better than everything outside of SBW last year.
I'll say it again -- there will be WAY more than 8k there this weekend.
You're either blind or haven't been to many games the last several years. Our attendance is better this year, but we aren't packing in the crowds you claim we are.
And butts in the seats is what matters. Statistics be damned.
And butts in the seats is what matters. Statistics be damned.
So, do Cohen and the players sit and count how many people are actually there?
You made a stupid *** argument on a trivial number that is not even given to us -- YET AGAIN -- because you are too big of ***** to make it based on the measured number -- for fear Ole Miss's will be higher than ours.
Why would we "guess" at a number that we will never even know instead of the one that we will? Exactly -- it's 17ing Stupid.
We've had TWO big series thusfar and the place was fairly full for both of them. Naturally, there are fewer and fewer in the chairbacks due to the lifetime seating license cluster 17.
Alot of you simply aren't remembering the past for what it actually was. You remember huge crowds against LSU and Florida after we'd been to Omaha 2 straight -- and try to extrapolate that to those entire seasons -- when the reality of the crowds for those full seasons weren't much different than this one.
Let us win this weekend like we should -- and the Alabama and South Carolina series will pack out. Casual MSU baseball fans are simply looking for a reason to get back on the bandwagon -- this team is starting to give it to them.
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My guess these are actual attendance.
4500 Thursday
6000 Friday
8500 Saturday.
The Thursday, Friday, Sat setup will hurt. . I know a good bit of people not coming up for that reason. Ill be missing my first sec home game this year on Thursday. Half my office is off so I'm having to work on Friday. Just hoping I can cut out about 4 on Friday to make first pitch.
Baseball attendance will suffer till we can find a way to get butts in the empty seats in the grandstand.
Perfect example. There are 8 seats right next to me. They are owned by a miss company. These are the best seats in the stadium. Rows 1 and 2 right behind home plate. Only one game all year have half their seats been used. Most games they use zero.
4500 Thursday
6000 Friday
8500 Saturday.
The Thursday, Friday, Sat setup will hurt. . I know a good bit of people not coming up for that reason. Ill be missing my first sec home game this year on Thursday. Half my office is off so I'm having to work on Friday. Just hoping I can cut out about 4 on Friday to make first pitch.
Baseball attendance will suffer till we can find a way to get butts in the empty seats in the grandstand.
Perfect example. There are 8 seats right next to me. They are owned by a miss company. These are the best seats in the stadium. Rows 1 and 2 right behind home plate. Only one game all year have half their seats been used. Most games they use zero.
Does Super Bulldog Weekend not fall under the same exact veil as Super Regionals and Tournament Finals? We have historically had just as many people show up on SBW as we do to hosted regional games. 9 of our top 30 crowds alltime have been Regional/Super Regional games. 10 of our top 30 crowds have been SBW Saturday games -- and that is JUST going back to 2000 where I can easily confirm the actual dates and opponents on SBW. 17 or 18 of the top 30 all-time crowds at Dudy Noble are most likely SBW games.
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I agree on this.
Disagree on the Thursday start hurting attendance though. I looked at and posted the numbers on here back when the schedule was announced(our past box scores listed paid and actual attendance -- that stopped this year).
There was no notable difference between the Thursday and the previous Sunday attendance... If anything, it was a little better on Thursday...
Tickets sold is what matters at the end of the day. Money is what matters at the end of the day.
MSU used to be one of the only ones to report actual butts in the seats numbers as attendance. But that changed a few years back when we sucked for a while. Seems we wised up so we could keep claiming big numbers.
I know I +1 will be there for the friday and saturday games. Driving back over from Dallas.
Explain to me how those seats being empty (other than the appearance on tv..) is a bad thing. They are paid for. Those seats do not keep anyone from going to a game.. We aren't sold out.
Exactly.. I'm going to guess for a 28k paid and 24k actual with 12k paid on Saturday, 10k Friday night (Y'all have fun estimating butts in the seats..) for the weekend. It's going to be huge and I can't wait
Its 8 less people buying concessions, merchandise, and parking. Could easily be $100 bucks of revenue left on the table if those 8 seats represented two families of four.
"Attendance" means what it says ... those actually attending, or physically at the game.
Paid attendance should actually be lower than actual attendance, because I'm sure the University comps tickets each week ... to media, VIPs from the other school, perhaps some kids groups for charity, etc.
If "Attendance" = Season tickets sold + "day of" tickets sold, then it's meaningless from an actual attendance standpoint ... all it does is artificially inflate attendance numbers. If you're gonna do that, why not count the TV audience and the HailState audience? If someone buys a ticket and doesn't go, or sell or give it away, then they did not attend.
Paid attendance should actually be lower than actual attendance, because I'm sure the University comps tickets each week ... to media, VIPs from the other school, perhaps some kids groups for charity, etc.
If "Attendance" = Season tickets sold + "day of" tickets sold, then it's meaningless from an actual attendance standpoint ... all it does is artificially inflate attendance numbers. If you're gonna do that, why not count the TV audience and the HailState audience? If someone buys a ticket and doesn't go, or sell or give it away, then they did not attend.
I agree Thursday will have more then a Sunday game. But I think Saturday is what suffers.
If you can't come give the tickets to somebody. I care way more about actual attendance then the paid.
We pride ourselves being the best fans in college baseball. But we are 5th in the Sec in attendance. Yes, we have our fans that come out of the woodwork for regionals, and sec tourney championship. We are off to our best start since 1999.
If you can't come give the tickets to somebody. I care way more about actual attendance then the paid.
We pride ourselves being the best fans in college baseball. But we are 5th in the Sec in attendance. Yes, we have our fans that come out of the woodwork for regionals, and sec tourney championship. We are off to our best start since 1999.
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give up. You obviously are lacking in the reading comprehension on this. Carry on.
Last years actual attendance reported: 3725, 6424, 9233 (good job on counting, Goat)
give up. You obviously are lacking in the reading comprehension on this. Carry on.
Last years actual attendance reported: 3725, 6424, 9233 (good job on counting, Goat)
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Not anymore.
"Attendance" is now number of season ticket holders plus walk-ups. Or if you're in Oxford, it's an overestimate of the orgy in the outfield.
We were arguably the last hold-outs still reporting butts in the seats, and it was hurting us in the attendance rankings.
Whether this is a good or bad thing can be debated, but modern standards dictate you find any way possible to manipulate appearances, and reporting the numbers this way is one of the easiest.
"Attendance" is now number of season ticket holders plus walk-ups. Or if you're in Oxford, it's an overestimate of the orgy in the outfield.
We were arguably the last hold-outs still reporting butts in the seats, and it was hurting us in the attendance rankings.
Whether this is a good or bad thing can be debated, but modern standards dictate you find any way possible to manipulate appearances, and reporting the numbers this way is one of the easiest.
You do understand that more fans makes for a better atmosphere? 10K is better than 5K? You can count, right? Or am I assuming too much?
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