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Thus Spake Mainer

Thus Spake Mainer

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Team-A lines up for a two-point conversion. The ball is fumbled or intercepted, the Team-B player is running for the opposite goal line (and two points) when he is brought down by a Team-A player by the horse collar, a penalty.

Is it a post-possession penalty in which Team-B retains the ball? Where on the field do they get it?

Or is the conversion play simply ruled "no good"?
 
LionJim

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NoSoup4U said:
conversion = no good , penalty assessed on kickoff

just spitballin what logically should happen as the two point conversion is an untimed down and a non possessive down
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Yeah, I’m betting this is it.
 
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NoSoup4U said:
conversion = no good , penalty assessed on kickoff

just spitballin what logically should happen as the two point conversion is an untimed down and a non possessive down
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That would be my guess, although my logic board isn't what it used to be.
 
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NoSoup4U said:
conversion = no good , penalty assessed on kickoff

just spitballin what logically should happen as the two point conversion is an untimed down and a non possessive down
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That seems reasonable to me.
 
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nittanymoops said:
What if it’s an overtime two point attempt?
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The penalty would be enforced on the next possession.
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If it is in OT it is a smart penalty to take vs giving up the 2pts (if those are the only 2 options).
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We are lucky to be penalized. Iowa gets the ball half the distance to the goal, give them another chance.
 
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Thus Spake Mainer said:
Team-A lines up for a two-point conversion. The ball is fumbled or intercepted, the Team-B player is running for the opposite goal line (and two points) when he is brought down by a Team-A player by the horse collar, a penalty.

Is it a post-possession penalty in which Team-B retains the ball? Where on the field do they get it?

Or is the conversion play simply ruled "no good"?
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"No good"...change of possession nullifies Team A's chance to convert.
 
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NoSoup4U said:
conversion = no good , penalty assessed on kickoff

just spitballin what logically should happen as the two point conversion is an untimed down and a non possessive down
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I can't place the game but I seem to remember a PSU game where a penalty happened at the end of a possession in overtime and it changed where the opening spot of the next possession took place. Either the Michigan 4 OT game or the JT Barrett OSU game. Now I'm gonna have to go see if I can dig up the play-by-play.
 
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NoSoup4U said:
conversion = no good , penalty assessed on kickoff

just spitballin what logically should happen as the two point conversion is an untimed down and a non possessive down
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Yes, found it. 2014 vs Ohio State -- Hull gets called for leverage on the extra point that ties the game at the end of the 1st OT and Ohio State got the ball to start the next possession at the 12 yard line instead of the 25. So if the original scenario happened in OT, I'd imagine the horse collar would be assessed at the start of Team B's possession so it would be first down at the 12.
 
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Thus Spake Mainer said:
Team-A lines up for a two-point conversion. The ball is fumbled or intercepted, the Team-B player is running for the opposite goal line (and two points) when he is brought down by a Team-A player by the horse collar, a penalty.

Is it a post-possession penalty in which Team-B retains the ball? Where on the field do they get it?

Or is the conversion play simply ruled "no good"?
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It's ruled "touchdown Michigan"
 
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