When is Coach going to start posting Mullen's record against top 20 teams?

FlotownDawg

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Every one of his posts for a while had Stansbury's record against top 20 teams tagged at the bottom. When is he going to start tagging Mullen's 1-19 record against top 20 teams?
 

DawgatAuburn

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He started that in about year nine if I recall, so give it about five more years.
 

dawgstudent

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It is funny. Mullen is setting up to be stansbury. Unfortunately a bowl game is a bowl game as far as judgment by fans where there really isn't a NIT. Last football season was an nit season where this season was a first round NCAA exit.
 

DAWG61

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What does a Sweet Sixteen for Stansbury and a top 20 win for Mullen have in common?
 

Dawg1976

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Good point. But for me the 1-19 record is not what so frustrating at the moment, it's more to due with some of Mullen's decision making. Again, why in the heck would you not put Dak in the game when it was obvious Russel was not on his game? Dak has played well in other games so it is not like you would be putting in a total greenhorn. Clock management is another thing that is lacking with Mullen along with.........

What the hell, all the bitching in the world here won't change anything. Yes, 8-5 is better than lot's of our cluster 17 seasons, but it was still mediocre at best.
 

Coach34

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Every one of his posts for a while had Stansbury's record against top 20 teams tagged at the bottom. When is he going to start tagging Mullen's 1-19 record against top 20 teams?

Let's remember it took Stansbury 4 seasons to even make the NCAA Tourney. And that's in basketball with only 5 starters. Mullen has already given us more success on the front end.

If Mullen is still doing this in Year 7 or so- then you will start hearing from me.
 

CadaverDawg

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It is funny. Mullen is setting up to be stansbury. Unfortunately a bowl game is a bowl game as far as judgment by fans where there really isn't a NIT. Last football season was an nit season where this season was a first round NCAA exit.

BBVA = NIT*
 

BigLeagueChew

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Your team's performance against Alabama, A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, and Northwestern = College Basketball Invitational
 

thatsbaseball

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Something happened after the Bama loss off the field. Whatever it was/is better get straightened out or we won`t win 5 games next year.
 

BigLeagueChew

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Actually, you didn't. You were trying to make yourself feel better about your team's shortcomings by making fun of someone else and failed. But good try. Maybe after another 3,000 posts, you'll learn how to post something intelligent or at least clever.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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If Mullen is still doing this in Year 7 or so- then you will start hearing from me.

I agree.

I do think he needs to evaluate this season closely from the standpoint of player development and game plans (coaching).
I do think he has had enough success as a whole to be allowed to make his own decisions this off season about coaches and players.

As a fan I am happy with 8 wins and a bowl game. I am not happy with the season as a whole, but I still think we lack the depth we need to play with the big boys and make that "Top 20" win, or beat one of the big SEC West boys. We should be closer to this next season in every position outside of QB.

But that would be the rub today. If Tyler gives a 50/50 performance today we win and I am not entirely sold on Dak, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt till he gets a chance to get all the reps and practice that a starter would. Bottom line is I think Mullen really needs to land a couple of talented QB candidates in next year's class for that year 7.

But no matter what, Mullen has brought us out of the depths of despair our program was mired in. It is up to him as to whether he can take us to the next step.
 

patdog

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Why do people keep pointing to the Bama game as the week something changed? We didn't just start playing like crap then. We played like crap the whole season. The only difference was, until the Bama week the schedule was so weak we could play like crap and still win. We played yesterday a lot like we played the whole season. Uninspired.
 

DowntownDawg

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Two huge differences between Mullen and Stansbury....

...1) Mullen is not running a three ring circus that has our guys getting in public fights, key players transferring every year, and guys bad mouthing the program and coach publicly. While I am embarrassed to lose 5 of 6 and look so pitiful yesterday, we are not the laughing stock of the college football world from a discipline/program image standpoint.

....2)Mullen has beaten the teams he should and that was Stansbury's problem. His losses against the sisters of the poor cost us tournament bids several times in the last several years. Also, it's much harder to win in SEC football, the hands down toughest league in the nation, than SEC basketball, which is terrible of late.


Because of these two things, as a State fan, I have to begrudgingly accept the results. That doesn't mean I am happy. That just means that as long as Mullen wins 6-8 and maintains good discipline, we can't and won't do anything. He may be our David Cutcliffe and we just have to buckle down and accept that.
 

cheewgumm

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FOOTBALL is way more important than basketball. It would nto make sense to

compare how long you would wait to make a change in football to how long you waited in basketball. Basketball is basically meaningless...football is the only thing with meaning.
 

cheewgumm

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One other difference Football means eerything basketball means nothing. We can do nothing about basketball and its essentiall meaningless. Football is the lifeblood. Has to be dealt with. I'm not for firing Mullen, I' m jsut pointing this out.
 

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thatsbaseball

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What talent level did Stans inherit. Mullen inherited several NFL players that Croom left behind. Asking cause I really don`t remember.
 

fishwater99

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I think Mullen is 0-15 vs Top 20 teams. He is 1-19 vs teams with 8 wins.

Mullen needs to make some changes with his staff and learn how to not be so damn hard headed.
 
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TheOMlawdog

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Mullen's SEC record 13-19 - Stans first four years SEC record - 30-34....

Also, when Mullen arrived the following players were either committed or already on the roster:

Jamar Chaney
Fletcher Cox
Anthony Dixon
Kyle Love
Pernell McPhee
Charles Mitchell
Quentin Saulsberry
Derek Sherrod
Chris White
KJ Wright
Jonathan Banks
Josh Boyd

Compare that to what Stans inherited when he took over? Stans vastly improved the talent on the roster in the four years he was there. Do you think there are more NFL players on the roster next year or back in 2009 in Mullen's first year? My guess is going to be 2009, because that team had some damn talent. I mean on the defense alone there were 9 future NFL players.

The last two season are exactly the type of season you would bash the living **** out of Stans - Early cream puff schedule, no defensive adjustments, an offensive system that wasn't getting the best out of his personnel, and a getting crushed down the stretch when the schedule got harder. I mean the last two seasons should piss you off more than anyone else.
 

HailState39110

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im with you patdog

Why do people keep pointing to the Bama game as the week something changed? We didn't just start playing like crap then. We played like crap the whole season. The only difference was, until the Bama week the schedule was so weak we could play like crap and still win. We played yesterday a lot like we played the whole season. Uninspired.

The Auburn game got our fanbase wooly and nobody knew how bad they really were, but if you couldn't tell after the Troy game that we were not a very good football team then you don't watch enough football. I still don't understand why people think we haven't been right after Alabama. To me it was pretty evident early on against Troy and South Alabama
 

engie

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What talent level did Stans inherit. Mullen inherited several NFL players that Croom left behind. Asking cause I really don`t remember.

IF Stans didn't inherit talent -- it was his own fault. He was an associate head coach and our Recruiting Coordinator here for NINE years prior to becoming head coach. IF you can't recruit off consecutive Sweet 16 and Final 4 appearances, I really don't know what to tell you....
 

BigLeagueChew

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You do realize that the only reason State isn't playing in Birmingham is because Vandy already played NU this season, and NU had nowhere else to go. The Music City Bowl officials made it clear that they would've taken Ole Miss over State had they been given the opportunity.

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mstateglfr

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How is one game more important then the other? Neither is important, they are games for entertainment. If they didnt exist, other forms of entertainment would increase in popularity.

Or do you mean from a financial perspective?

Somehow the BigEast is FLUSH with multiple millions coming to them in the next 5 years due to NCAAT bids, yet football is the only thing with meaning. Odd how schools exiting the conference are fighting for their share of something without meaning, schools entering the conference are fighting for their share of someone else's success, and the conference itself fighting to hold onto it all since its, you know, basically meaningless.
 

Coach34

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What talent level did Stans inherit. Mullen inherited several NFL players that Croom left behind. Asking cause I really don`t remember.

As Engie said- Stansbury had been the top recruiter for the last 9 years when he got the job. So he was largely responsible for the talent he inherited. He inherited a very good team- Ty Washington was a 1st round draft pick, Tang Hamilton signed a couple of 10 day NBA contracts, Micheal Gholar, Marckell Patterson, Detrick White, Robert Jackson...

That was a pretty good team to take over