Amazing how many people hear different things. Personally I think it's a HUGE mistake to keep him, but if he's kept it wouldn't surprise me. Next year will be fairly ugly either way. Without Caroo the passing game will be anemic for the full year. Our LBs will be very weak and the secondary may be slightly improved but that's not saying much. Expect another 4-8 type season, but if we have a new coach at least there will be hope....
When will the news trickle out?
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Amazing how many people hear different things. Personally I think it's a HUGE mistake to keep him, but if he's kept it wouldn't surprise me. Next year will be fairly ugly either way. Without Caroo the passing game will be anemic for the full year. Our LBs will be very weak and the secondary may be slightly improved but that's not saying much. Expect another 4-8 type season, but if we have a new coach at least there will be hope....
I'm torn. If Coach Flood stays the team will be happy, but the fans will be mad. If Coach Flood leaves, the fans will be happy and RU5781 will finally reveal all that he knows.
I don't think anyone knows anything at this point, and I won't be shocked either way.
Hoping for the best, expecting the worst.
As @RMSko points out, if a decision has already been made to keep Flood, then he would get public support from the administration heading into the last game. The fact that we have not heard that support means either (a) no decision has been made, or (b) the decision has been made to replace him.
After you mail him the tix, just use the free ticket transfer to make them unusable. Then we can all giggle when Barchi gets stopped at the gate. You been PUNK'D, bee-otch!
Which is why I take many things here with grains of salt and also take into account who's saying what. I appreciate everyone giving their 2 cents though regardless of being right or wrong though. Even the ones I'm more likely to trust I don't take completely at face value because who knows which source knows how much about any particular issue even though they may think their info is solid. I just read tea leaves from what's out there and come to my own conclusion and then in the end the reality will eventually come out and you'll see how wrong or right you were and also who is probably more reliable to take into account the next time.
Just a guess. I think that no decision has been made yet. This department historically has too many leaking points - so if something is definitively going down - it would have been rumored in the media already. Again - just my guess.
Didn't Barchi make public statements that he expects KF to be our coach next year?
I think this is the safest odds/bets on the outcome. Anyone betting Flood is out after Maryland is playing long odds that are less than realistic.
I see it in reverse myself but we'll see in a week or so. It's not like we win or lose anything being right or wrong, just our individual interpretations of what's out there.
I think it's safe to say that ru66 is light years higher on the RU donor list than you. So you are correct, the two of you will never be in the same room of RU donors at any time in the present or future.
I hear that what we have on our hands is a Schrodingers Coach situation. Right now Flood is in both the already fired and coming back next year states.
Only thing I recall him stating is that we will have a six year adjustment period.
not sure why some people get upset when people post about what they heard. unless you believe that all of these posters are flat out lying they are merely passing along info. i like the info when it's passed along. we have posters saying they heard he's back and others saying he's out. Someone will be correct. it doesn't mean that the incorrect posters lied. it likely means that their source was wrong or had bad info. either way, it's a message board. what the heck else is there to talk about at this point in the season?
I'm just finding it weird that they would let it be an open question mark if Flood is indeed coming back. What purpose would that serve?
Not that I ever heard. (If he made that statement, doesn't that make this whole thread meaningless?)
Ed - this is a very good point. if he's coming back why does Saturday's performance against a crappy Maryland team mean anything? if they are concerned about the crowd reaction then they should know that that keeping him is a bad decision. I honestly believe that they (JH and some influential boosters) want him gone. but, I believe there are concerns about who they can get to replace him because of cost and the other opportunities available.
I have always been a proponent of Pep Hamilton. I still believe he'll be a very good coach. But, because of the direction of the program I think we need an experienced guy now even if he may only be here for 4-5 years. At this point, we just need someone to stop the slide, provide a calming influence, reestablish some recruiting connections in the area, bring credibility back to the program and give us a decent (not even great product) on the field. We now know that we have another 5 years to go before we get real B1G money. Bring someone in who can guide through the next 5 years and then we see where we are.
I've actually heard both that he is back and that Hermann/Barchi are putting together a buyout package. But I've heard that he's back from people in the Athletic Dept who wouldn't necessarily have inside information (some of whom are Flood supporters). And I've heard that the administration is putting together a buyout package from people who have been hit up to fund it.
Unless you personally know members of the team, I don't buy that. A handful of players offering public support means squat.
Yea, the recruits and players might like cool nice guy flood, but who cares. Coaches change all the time, this is big business college football, not the east bumblefuck high school football team where everyone loves everyone. This is the reality of big time college athletics, you get it done or you get out the way, thats any job where you get paid millions of bucks. I am sure if the next guy comes in here and starts winning the kids will love him too, maybe more.
This is very unfortunate. Nice Man, Not a Big 10 University Leader. The BIG 10 is about academics and athletics, not just academics. He would be much better off at a non Power 5 school.
There are guys on the team that know the program is in a bad place right now. They aren't going to say it in public.
I guess it's time for people to stop passing info from those emails from Mr. TV as a credible source - There has been no decision to bring back Flood next year.
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Haven't you heard?....in this very thread...that Julie is going to be the fall girl if Flood is fired....so why would she be raising funds to fire him....it would be like digging her own grave....if you believe what's said on a message board
The circular logic on this board is remarkable.
Nobody here said Julie will be the fall guy if Flood is fired.
Thats true. The issue is that RU is as far behind in many ways academically as it is athletically (campus, fundraising, obtaining grants, etc). And academics is going to get the priority, particularly knowing that athletics will be self-funding in five years regardless, while academics will continue to see lower and lower input from the state.
The return on investment for athletics is just not that high - particularly for an established school and especially in the major sports, where entrenched programs make breaking into the elite an expensive and almost impossible task.
Or things change. Nothing is ever set in stone. It's like recruiting, a kid will say he loves Rutgers and will commit soon. That info may be passed to the fan base. Then next week he changes his mind and commits somewhere else.
You don't need insider info to know what is going on. You just need to read the tea leaves. Tea leaves says, Flood is gonzo and will be announced after the Mary game. Now the other stuff you are hearing maybe due to his supporters trying to alter that decision. How did those people know? Well, because these folks are also being contacted to help raise the funding for a new staff. The reason why there are conflicting reports is because among the boosters themselves, there are conflicts as well. Some of these boosters may also be trying to implicate Julie. "If we are going to fire Flood based on off field issues, well, then shouldn't Julie be included?" They ask these questions to 1) make it harder to fire Flood and 2) being opportunistic in leveraging their hatred for Julie. These things are not difficult to figure out.
Agree. I believe that Julie is very chameleon-like in this situation. She will go in whatever direction the wind blows, either to retain him or fire him, as per the RU Administration. Don't see her driving the bus.
What concerns me is if the Administration has little confidence that JH can get us a capable replacement for Flood at this time and decides to keep him another season because of that and budget reasons. If the results of the current investigation are not too damning for KF I can see them taking this approach as a cost saving measure. Needless to say this will create a board meltdown if it happens.
If KF is staying I expect a vote of confidence from either JH or Barchi soon after the Maryland game. Certainly by next Monday.
I wonder if Tom Luicci has already written the Press Release ? haha
Seems to me that since they suspended him rather than fire him for cause at the time they tipped their hand. There aren't any affordable candidates the fan base, recruits or press will be excited about so they will keep the homely beater with a cracked windshield, check engine light on and the side mirrors hanging off.
But hey, it starts every time. That's all they want. A commuter car in a league full of limos.
But hey, it starts every time. That's all they want. A commuter car in a league full of limos.
