Football Who Are the Scarlet Knights' Greatest D-I QBs of All-Time?
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McMahon not only unappreciated but underrated on this list.
Horrible list. McMahon should be number 1. Imagine if he played with the 06 and 07 teams.
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There seems to be a misunderstanding about when Rutgers started playing “Division 1” football.
Somehow, we were ranked 17th in the country in 1976 before we were Division 1? So that’s why no shoutout for Bert Kosup I guess.
Somehow, we were ranked 17th in the country in 1976 before we were Division 1? So that’s why no shoutout for Bert Kosup I guess.
However, the 1999 signature win over Syracuse actually belongs to Chad Schwenk.
McMahon should be much higher on that list. Can you imagine what he could have accomplished with a passable OL and some of the weapons we've had over the past 20 years (i.e., Moses, Sanu, Britt, Leonard, Harris, etc.)? And I'm not sure I'd even have Fortay on that list.
And, if we have Tom Savage on the list, we need to post this:
There have been some very good RU QB ‘s and in no specific order : Scott Erney , Mike McMahon, Ray Lucas, Mike Teel, Gary Nova , Chase Dodd ,
I was going to place Hochberg into the thread and forgot . A terrible injury to a potentially exceptional QB against Penn State if memory is correct . Wasn’t Scott Erney also injured against them?
Teel was no slouch, but with McMahon's mobility you have a 2006 team in the Top 8 at the end of the season.
Agreed on both but there’s a reason why McMahon played multiple nfl seasons. Dude had wheels and moxy and could sling it.
Maybe the author meant after the D1A and D1AA split in 1978. Otherwise he made a big omission. Not to say that I agree with the rest of his ranking.
I like all of these guys and understand the rationale behind the pecking order. Winning matters. There is no way we can say this guy would have done better on that team. You can only judge them by their results.
Having said that McMahon and Savage were probably out most talented QB’s. Erney and Teel were probably our best pocket passers. Nova won the most in the BIG and our schedule that year was the toughest we’ve played. He torched UNC in his bowl game. All of those things matter.
Having said that McMahon and Savage were probably out most talented QB’s. Erney and Teel were probably our best pocket passers. Nova won the most in the BIG and our schedule that year was the toughest we’ve played. He torched UNC in his bowl game. All of those things matter.
I think Erney was better than Teel actually. He's very underrated but this list is like looking at stats inside of a vacuum.
If I were putting this list together, and I have been watching since 1980. McMahon would be higher, Lucas would be lower. I would definitely have Fortey ahead of him. Joe Galiardi needs to be on this list as well!
McMahon was by far the most talented.
But he looks like Weyoun from Star Trek deep space 9
I don't care if he looks like Worf, he could play.
Here's the problem to me with putting McMahon higher. The arguments against him are he threw a ton of picks and didnt complete many to his own team either.
The arguments in his defense surround a horrible ol, limited playmakers around him, and a d that couldn't stop good teams constantly putting him in tough situations. Which are IMO all definitely fair points. But he got hurt in 1999. Missed the last 6 or 7 games that year. The schedule was front loaded (Texas and V tech), but look at his stats versus Chad Schwenk who played the rest of the season. If he was so good despite a terrible team around him, does that mean Schwenk should be on this list too (rhetorical)?
The arguments in his defense surround a horrible ol, limited playmakers around him, and a d that couldn't stop good teams constantly putting him in tough situations. Which are IMO all definitely fair points. But he got hurt in 1999. Missed the last 6 or 7 games that year. The schedule was front loaded (Texas and V tech), but look at his stats versus Chad Schwenk who played the rest of the season. If he was so good despite a terrible team around him, does that mean Schwenk should be on this list too (rhetorical)?
Mcmahon was really talented. . But I get it he can’t be really high if it’s based on accomplishments at rutgers.
Good mention of Schwenk !
@Richard Schnyderite what a lousy article ! It states mcmahon’s signature win was a game he didn’t even play in! Schwenk played the 99 game against Syracuse! Not the best homework done here
Oh I would never argue McMahon wasn't talented. Gun for an arm and could run. I'm just stating what I think. We can all agree to disagree.
And yes - that was Schwenk. But to cut Richie some slack we are really going down the Rutgers wormhole now! https://www.espn.com/ncf/1999/991113/recap/sswrrd.html
You can’t put a guy on a list like this and state his lone signature win was a game he didn’t play in!
Fair.
It's fun reading that article. I think a lot of Cuse fans still think it is 1998. Looooong time ago Orange. Different world now.
No doubt. That's another interesting list potentially - talent as an athlete at qb. I think mine would be McMahon #1, Wimsatt #2, and... wow this might be even tougher. Bunch of guys after those 2.