Who else did UK consider when Stoops hired?

sluggercatfan

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I can specifically remember fans hating the idea of McIntyre (who isn't young, necessarily). He was a legit candidate due to his ties to the south.

Stoops was about one of the hottest Coordinator names in college football at the time. Herbstreit was surprised he came to UK, for instance.
I liked him a lot!!!!
 
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I can specifically remember fans hating the idea of McIntyre (who isn't young, necessarily). He was a legit candidate due to his ties to the south.

Stoops was about one of the hottest Coordinator names in college football at the time. Herbstreit was surprised he came to UK, for instance.
Colorado looked better coached, disciplined and inspired than CSU. As a result, the formerly downtrodden Buffaloes were sharp and decimated the Rams. Mr. McIntyre can coach.
 

billoliver40

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Petrino is coaching Louisville now. They're ranked 13th in the nation - and none of the U of L people I know seem to be suffering to much over it.
You mean the two faced hypocrites that said Kentucky sold its soul hiring Cal?
Bless their hearts.
 

ukalum1988

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Once again......He was passed over by every power five school in the country. He was a toxic hire at the time. The people that cared about his side piece were the attorneys from UA that were having to answer why Petrino hired a person with no experience for a state job while passing over at least one female with administrative experience (who happened to be close to Bobby Ps age). Add that to the fact he left one of the m o st respected NFL owners in the lurch as well as his dalliance with AUBURN while at UL....

Yeah...you're right. He would've been a safe hire. Despite rubbing the nose of the president of Arkansas in the dirt.
Years ago, back before I officially joined the Rivals board, I lurked around here quite a bit. I remember a classic thread where someone (can't remember who) had this elaborate post about Bobby P coming to UK, Something about a phone call from BP after Thanksgiving dinner to the OP's house indicating he was all set to be UKs next coach. The OP of that thread claimed to be instrumental in bringing the "UK Camp" and the "Petrino Camp" together. It was one of the most elaborate troll jobs I ever remember on any board. I spent about 10 minutes looking for that thread recently but couldn't find it.

Back to the topic of the OP, we didn't exactly have a who's who of college FB parading through Mitch's office wanting the job. I was happy as hell when Stoops was hired, but the honeymoon is over and time will tell if the marriage can be saved.
 

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There were s lot of names thrown around by the fan base and media but it's hard to tell who was actually considered by the admin. My favorite was Butch Jones. His ability to coach and ties to Cincy/Southern Ohio seemed logical to me.

Butch was considered, maybe even offered but he was hoping that the UT job was coming up and the rest is history with that.
 

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Once again......He was passed over by every power five school in the country. He was a toxic hire at the time. The people that cared about his side piece were the attorneys from UA that were having to answer why Petrino hired a person with no experience for a state job while passing over at least one female with administrative experience (who happened to be close to Bobby Ps age). Add that to the fact he left one of the m o st respected NFL owners in the lurch as well as his dalliance with AUBURN while at UL....

Yeah...you're right. He would've been a safe hire. Despite rubbing the nose of the president of Arkansas in the dirt.

You can talk about radioactivity until you're blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is BOTH of our in state little brothers (who have now passed us) hired that "radioactive" coach and had success because of doing so and NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON in the national media is criticizing them because of it. You know what they ARE talking about? How good of a team Louisville has this year. This is college football. It's a cutthroat, multi-million dollar business. Besides rival fan bases, no one cares about what kind of a person your coach is as long as he wins.

If a "radioactive" coach gives you an exciting top-25 team, then I'll take it everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. The fact that Mitch didn't even give Petrino an interview, let alone consideration, is a fireable offense in itself. Mitch should thank his lucky stars that he's not the AD at a school that holds their athletics department accountable for football results or he would've been fired immediately based on that decision alone.
 

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He was not interviewed at Tennessee either. Nor AUBURN. Nowhere.
WKU threw him a lifeline and he took it.
You would have to fire every president of every school that did not interview Petrino if you have that much of an addiction to him.

He was not a viable alternative at the time.
 
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Once again......He was passed over by every power five school in the country. He was a toxic hire at the time. The people that cared about his side piece were the attorneys from UA that were having to answer why Petrino hired a person with no experience for a state job while passing over at least one female with administrative experience (who happened to be close to Bobby Ps age). Add that to the fact he left one of the m o st respected NFL owners in the lurch as well as his dalliance with AUBURN while at UL....

Yeah...you're right. He would've been a safe hire. Despite rubbing the nose of the president of Arkansas in the dirt.

You really like that word "toxic"
 

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Years ago, back before I officially joined the Rivals board, I lurked around here quite a bit. I remember a classic thread where someone (can't remember who) had this elaborate post about Bobby P coming to UK, Something about a phone call from BP after Thanksgiving dinner to the OP's house indicating he was all set to be UKs next coach. The OP of that thread claimed to be instrumental in bringing the "UK Camp" and the "Petrino Camp" together. It was one of the most elaborate troll jobs I ever remember on any board. I spent about 10 minutes looking for that thread recently but couldn't find it.

Back to the topic of the OP, we didn't exactly have a who's who of college FB parading through Mitch's office wanting the job. I was happy as hell when Stoops was hired, but the honeymoon is over and time will tell if the marriage can be saved.
"Hi, this is Bobby". Ring a bell?
That was crazy... I bought it
 
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He was not interviewed at Tennessee either. Nor AUBURN. Nowhere.
WKU threw him a lifeline and he took it.
You would have to fire every president of every school that did not interview Petrino if you have that much of an addiction to him.

He was not a viable alternative at the time.

Yep, and guess what? Those schools can afford not to hire a coach like Petrino and still find a coach that's just as good or better because of their tradition. Come on, it's not brain surgery, why in the world are you trying so hard to rationalize what Mitch did when THE FACTS are staring you right in the face? For the life of me I can't understand it. It was a terrible decision. Point blank. Period. Just admit it and move on. You're only digging yourself in a deeper hole every time you attempt to defend what he did. "Well no one else wanted him!" That's the tried and true line we like to use isn't it? Oh, except for that school a few miles down the road, oh and that other school a few miles down the road. Apparently they don't count because they were just "throwing him a lifeline". Come on. I have never in my life seen a fanbase that tries so hard to rationalize poor decisions and mediocrity.

You're fighting a losing battle trying to defend Mitch with this deal. Go ask any college football expert and they'd tell you that a school like UK would be insane to pass on what might be their one chance at getting a proven winner.
 
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Leach and Petrino were fans' options but were never really in the equation.

Here is an article on Dykes, Anderson, and McIntyre as being the top candidates.

http://www.nationofblue.com/could-kentucky-football-coaching-search-be-coming-to-an-end/

And another article:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...tucky-coaching-search-butch-jones-sonny-dykes
Well considering the other options, obviously should've taken dykes or even the other 2 were damn good options. But out of those options, we really went with stoops who wasn't on the radar with those guys? Dykes could've been a program changer. Same with the others. We screwed the pooch on this one bad. But I mean stoops did a damn good job conning Mb into letting him steal money from the university. As far as I'm concerned stoops hasn't earned a penny of his contract. Making him one of the countries richest thieves. The con job stoops pulled on MB in order to get rich has be one of the most pathetic displays of competence ever from an AD. He really allowed that bafoon. To con him out of like 20 million. How do you let a bafoon like stoops con you THAT bad??

I'm sure Barnhart thinks about this everyday. That he somehow allowed some presentation win him over instead of hiring an actual good head coach. They were obviously much better options at the time and even hindsight shows how terrible the decision was. But it was bad at the time too. Stoops poops. Posts like yours make me laugh at those who say 'what other options were there?' then claim that stoops was by far the best option available.. Pffft. No way, especially when you look at the names of the other candidate, and if that was the case where stoops was by far our best option then might as well cancel football program altogether if we can't do any better than stoops. Sad. Stoops. Poops.
 
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Yep, and guess what? Those schools can afford not to hire a coach like Petrino and still find a coach that's just as good or better because of their tradition. Come on, it's not brain surgery, why in the world are you trying so hard to rationalize what Mitch did when THE FACTS are staring you right in the face? For the life of me I can't understand it. It was a terrible decision. Point blank. Period. Just admit it and move on. You're only digging yourself in a deeper hole every time you attempt to defend what he did. "Well no one else wanted him!" That's the tried and true line we like to use isn't it? Oh, except for that school a few miles down the road, oh and that other school a few miles down the road. Apparently they don't count because they were just "throwing him a lifeline". Come on. I have never in my life seen a fanbase that tries so hard to rationalize poor decisions and mediocrity.

You're fighting a losing battle trying to defend Mitch with this deal. Go ask any college football expert and they'd tell you that a school like UK would be insane to pass on what might be their one chance at getting a proven winner.
(Sigh).....
Okay......so why did all the other Universities across the country pass on him?
Why would he have come here?
The last proven winner that UK hired was Curry. How'd that work?
Barnhardt is far from the AD of the century....but if you recall, the school president had to sign off on the LAST major sports hire with Calipari. Do you think he is would have done the same with Bobby P given the situation?
Of course, like you are saying.....Ramsey did sign off on it.
How's he doing these days?????
Ooooooopsie.
 

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Butch Jones, who I wanted, but there were conflicting reports. I heard he didn't impress Barnhardt in the interview and Matt Jones says he was never interested. So who knows?
But Clyde did impress in his interview? Barnhart's judgement is not to be trusted. Anyone could have spent 5 minutes with Gillispie and realized he was a lunatic........except Mitch. How much was that buyout?
 
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Years ago, back before I officially joined the Rivals board, I lurked around here quite a bit. I remember a classic thread where someone (can't remember who) had this elaborate post about Bobby P coming to UK, Something about a phone call from BP after Thanksgiving dinner to the OP's house indicating he was all set to be UKs next coach. The OP of that thread claimed to be instrumental in bringing the "UK Camp" and the "Petrino Camp" together. It was one of the most elaborate troll jobs I ever remember on any board. I spent about 10 minutes looking for that thread recently but couldn't find it.

Back to the topic of the OP, we didn't exactly have a who's who of college FB parading through Mitch's office wanting the job. I was happy as hell when Stoops was hired, but the honeymoon is over and time will tell if the marriage can be saved.
Yeah.... I remember that post as well... At the time I don't even think I knew what a "troll' was....

Stoops is here for a while longer... If the season unfolds as I suspect there will be a coach or two sacrificed...
But if it comes to that... What difference does it make???............ Always wanted to use that line... appropriately!
Still believe from a management standpoint, all those involved above a coaching level, have made the job at UK toxic..
Don't get me wrong... Mitch Barnhart can find lots of guys out there willing to make 3+ million a year... But I don't see a name guy wanting the job unless they just have an itch to accept the challenge of a lifetime... At this point in my life I'm not going to get too mouthy about the product as I got no skin in the game since 2015..... But certainly do appreciate those that have invested $$$ for being touchy... Hey, maybe Stoops and staff catch a break.... Everyone wants to see decent, hard working people succeed and Joker and Mark fill that role... They just haven't been very successful.
 

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Leech, petrino were options. Obviously much better options than the one we have. I honestly believe all of our other options were proven HC's who have done much better jobs than stoops. I believe stoops was the worst available option of all the ones we had and that was our selection. Sad to say.
leach had already taken WSU job the year before. needed to pull plug on joker quicker
 

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Once again......He was passed over by every power five school in the country. He was a toxic hire at the time. The people that cared about his side piece were the attorneys from UA that were having to answer why Petrino hired a person with no experience for a state job while passing over at least one female with administrative experience (who happened to be close to Bobby Ps age). Add that to the fact he left one of the m o st respected NFL owners in the lurch as well as his dalliance with AUBURN while at UL....

Yeah...you're right. He would've been a safe hire. Despite rubbing the nose of the president of Arkansas in the dirt.
yeah, WKU really paying a price for that right now, eh?
 

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Very uncharismatic guy, but proven winner, who was having trouble up to now like Stoops. Be interesting to see if he does get over the hump this season.

He has only had one winning season out of six as a head coach. Proven winner?