Who else thinks we've got some posters trying to counter OM propaganda machine..

[blacklistedbully]

with our own? Achtung baby, maybe, but wanted to post the obvious anyway. I suspect we have some sixpackers that decided a while back to fight-fire-with-fire, and are hoping Ole Miss fans will self-destruct in the same way some of our fans do when fed misinformation.

I admit to being interested in all this recruiting stuff. What else is a CFB fan to do during this part of the year? But as interesting as it can all be, at the end of the day it-is-what-it-is. If OM takes us to the cleaners with recruits, I hope it's because they're cheating and that they get busted for it. If they beat us badly legitimately, that's a bad sign for us. If they are cheating, I most def want them to get busted, as their success is not good for us, and vice-versa. This is where I don't get the folks who are fine with both schools succeeding. As Bulldogs, it is in our best interest for Ole Miss to do poorly. Same goes for them. We are rivals, afterall (again stating the obvious).

 

[AlSwearengen]

won't work on them the way it has with us. They understand how the game works and they do a hell of a job of falling in line. In all honestly, when it comes to social media, they have been the puppet master and they have their hand way up our ***.

 

[RebChuck]

That is because the knee jerkers won't allow anyone on here to be the straight man. Every time someone sets up a conversation someone on here reacts with the apparently obvious response and calls them on it.

 

[engie]

Much of what you say has merit -- but at the end of the day, many MSU fans are stuck in the mentailty that they are inferior to Ole Miss. No amount of "spin" changes that for them. And these people cower at the first sign of adversity -- regardless of what the actual evidence on hand tells us.

I really hoped this had died in our generation. But it is becoming obvious that many parents passed the mentality on to their children -- in the same way that OM parents pass on "superiority to MSU" to their children(and obviously grandchildren, as it now stands)

It's been 23 years since Jackie Sherrill showed up in Starkville -- and made it obvious that the old thinking was bs. We've come a long way in that time, but there is still a long way to go. We've completely caught up to them in reality in(almost) every way -- but for some reason our own perception is still trailing that. There is definitely a concerted effort among like-minded MSU fans to put that old thinking behind us.

Funny fact -- given growth rates of the past 8 years, our endowment will outsize theirs in approximately 4 more years -- and will be double theirs within 20 years. We are no longer "poor ole MSU" and it's time we stop acting like it.

 

[muddawgs]

with our own? Achtung baby, maybe, but wanted to post the obvious anyway. I suspect we have some sixpackers that decided a while back to fight-fire-with-fire, and are hoping Ole Miss fans will self-destruct in the same way some of our fans do when fed misinformation.

I admit to being interested in all this recruiting stuff. What else is a CFB fan to do during this part of the year? But as interesting as it can all be, at the end of the day it-is-what-it-is. If OM takes us to the cleaners with recruits, I hope it's because they're cheating and that they get busted for it. If they beat us badly legitimately, that's a bad sign for us. If they are cheating, I most def want them to get busted, as their success is not good for us, and vice-versa. This is where I don't get the folks who are fine with both schools succeeding. As Bulldogs, it is in our best interest for Ole Miss to do poorly. Same goes for them. We are rivals, afterall (again stating the obvious).

I don't thinks so. It wouldn't serve really any purpose considering recruits can't talk to any coaching staffs till Wednesday.

 

[blacklistedbully]

That is because the knee jerkers won't allow anyone on here to be the straight man. Every time someone sets up a conversation someone on here reacts with the apparently obvious response and calls them on it.

Which is why I posted this as a separate topic as opposed to replying to one of those threads. If it is a planned propaganda move, I don't want to be the one that poo-poos it on the thread.

 

[Arloguthrie]

The mythical hand-up-the-*** technique

they have been the puppet master and they have their hand way up our ***.

is quite controversial and violates several accepted principles of puppetry. Frankly I'm not sure that it's even possible (Where is the puppet?), and yet the legend continues, much like Sasquatch.

 

[blacklistedbully]

I don't thinks so. It wouldn't serve really any purpose considering recruits can't talk to any coaching staffs till Wednesday.

You miss the point. It's not about recruits talking to coaches, it's about Joe-fanbase going psycho on a message board or twitter, things that recruits DO see, including now until signing day. Besides that, these threads have been posted long before the quiet period.

 

[maroonmania]

Maybe you run in a different circle of MSU fans than me but I don't...

Much of what you say has merit -- but at the end of the day, many MSU fans are stuck in the mentailty that they are inferior to Ole Miss. No amount of "spin" changes that for them. And these people cower at the first sign of adversity -- regardless of what the actual evidence on hand tells us.I really hoped this had died in our generation. But it is becoming obvious that many parents passed the mentality on to their children -- in the same way that OM parents pass on "superiority to MSU" to their children(and obviously grandchildren, as it now stands) It's been 23 years since Jackie Sherrill showed up in Starkville -- and made it obvious that the old thinking was bs. We've come a long way in that time, but there is still a long way to go. We've completely caught up to them in reality in(almost) every way -- but for some reason our own perception is still trailing that. There is definitely a concerted effort among like-minded MSU fans to put that old thinking behind us.Funny fact -- given growth rates of the past 8 years, our endowment will outsize theirs in approximately 4 more years -- and will be double theirs within 20 years. We are no longer "poor ole MSU" and it's time we stop acting like it.

think that's generally the case at all anymore. The last 25 years have wiped most of that mindset except maybe in the very oldest MSU fans. I think that mentality still applies when we compare ourselves to other upper echelon SEC teams (Bama, LSU, Florida, etc.) but I really don't think the vast majority of MSU fans see OM as superior in any way except in doucheyness (if that's even a word).

 

[engie]

think that's generally the case at all anymore. The last 25 years have wiped most of that mindset except maybe in the very oldest MSU fans. I think that mentality still applies when we compare ourselves to other upper echelon SEC teams (Bama, LSU, Florida, etc.) but I really don't think the vast majority of MSU fans see OM as superior in any way except in douchyness (if that's even a word).

Why, then, are we melting down because Jones took a few trips to Oxford? OM still has their chest poked out about their class -- despite almost every blue-chip prospect of theirs visiting elsewhere this weekend. It's a simple fact that many cower to them at the first sign of adversity, at least related to football -- It literally can be seen all over this message board right now. Freaking the heck out about Jones all over SPS and twitter is the same thing as cowering, and I'll tell you why.

Even IF keeping Jones is a huge deal(and it definitely is) -- Neediness is a TERRIBLE quality in a fanbase, just as in people. There is a very distinct difference between making someone "wanted" and being "needy" or "desperate" -- and a large portion of our fanbase is well across that line right now. Would you rather date a needy and crazy 9 -- or her equally attractive, carefree and funloving best friend that wants you? I found out a long time ago that a confident, carefree attitude allowed me to date well outside my league -- and OM has figured this out about football recruiting.

 

[johnson86-1]

What's this "we" stuff?

Why, then, are we melting down because Jones took a few trips to Oxford? ... It literally can be seen all over this message board right now.

There is a very distinct difference between making someone "wanted" and being "needy" or "desperate" -- and a large portion of our fanbase is well across that line right now.

Is it really a large portion of our fan base? Or can 25 idiots freaking out pretty easily post often enough to dominate the first page of this board for days on end? I honestly don't even know where to go outside of the internet to find people that don't just obsess over where a recruit is going to go, but actually feel the need to whine like a jr. high girl over the fact that the recruit is taking the opportunity to get treated like a king for a couple of weekends.

 

[tenureplan]

It is actually only 9 idiots after you account for all of goat's logins

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

This is spot on

Why, then, are we melting down because Jones took a few trips to Oxford? OM still has their chest poked out about their class -- despite almost every blue-chip prospect of theirs visiting elsewhere this weekend. It's a simple fact that many cower to them at the first sign of adversity, at least related to football -- It literally can be seen all over this message board right now. Freaking the heck out about Jones all over SPS and twitter is the same thing as cowering, and I'll tell you why.

Even IF keeping Jones is a huge deal(and it definitely is) -- Neediness is a TERRIBLE quality in a fanbase, just as in people. There is a very distinct difference between making someone "wanted" and being "needy" or "desperate" -- and a large portion of our fanbase is well across that line right now. Would you rather date a needy and crazy 9 -- or her equally attractive, carefree and funloving best friend that wants you? I found out a long time ago that a confident, carefree attitude allowed me to date well outside my league -- and OM has figured this out about football recruiting.

and well said

 

[Coach34]

It is actually only 9 idiots after you account for all of goat's logins

+1

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Haha, calling it for what it is is now needy? Now I've heard it all. Nothing needy about it, you all are being sheep, I'm being real. I don't think he's going to Ole Miss because we're poor lil msu. I think he's going to Ole Miss by the vibe I get from the articles posted here. The fact that it's MSU making excuses for when the guy is in Oxford. You all really think all these recruitniks are in this together? Terrible.

In truth, I'm the one that's not hung up on Jones. Is what it is. Take your money where you can get it. Still got a good class. And if he signs with us, even better. It's baseball season anyway.

 

[maroonmania]

Can't speak for others but my only concern on visiting is that...

Why, then, are we melting down because Jones took a few trips to Oxford? OM still has their chest poked out about their class -- despite almost every blue-chip prospect of theirs visiting elsewhere this weekend. It's a simple fact that many cower to them at the first sign of adversity, at least related to football -- It literally can be seen all over this message board right now. Freaking the heck out about Jones all over SPS and twitter is the same thing as cowering, and I'll tell you why.Even IF keeping Jones is a huge deal(and it definitely is) -- Neediness is a TERRIBLE quality in a fanbase, just as in people. There is a very distinct difference between making someone "wanted" and being "needy" or "desperate" -- and a large portion of our fanbase is well across that line right now. Would you rather date a needy and crazy 9 -- or her equally attractive, carefree and funloving best friend that wants you? I found out a long time ago that a confident, carefree attitude allowed me to date well outside my league -- and OM has figured this out about football recruiting.

I've been around long enough to understand the lengths the OM recruiting machine will go to get a player they want (as has been discussed on this board and others ad nauseum). The type things that I don't believe our current staff and administration would want or allow to get ANY individual player. But that has absolutely NOTHING to do with a mindset that somehow OM is superior to us, just that they have a more "win at all cost" mentality ingrained in them.

 

[Coach 57]

I'ma coach. Words like propaganda are too big for me and are for he brainiacs out there like most of you. I wouldn't know what it is much less how to spread it. I know X's and O's and some Bobby's & Joe's......that's it. I get popped on by idiots like Goat because I take up for other people in my profession. Wheather they are Chris Wilson or even guys like Freeze. I know coaching and coaches, not politics, not rocket science, not how to make a cheesecake or how to engineer a riot. I know some people in my profession and from there tree grows out. Let me preface what I am about to say with this: These are not about UM or MSU but in fact DO go on. I know about $50o bills rolled up in a tshirt with rubber bands on it given to player X. Or trips to the "shake show" that are supposed to be OVs. And more, and when there's $moke there's usually fire. I can't put the fire out, but I can tell you ONE IS COMING.

 

[DAWG61]

Ole Miss stormed the field this year after beating us. You don't do that when you feel superior.