Who is on Your School's Football Mt. Rushmore?

DeanOfSelection

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I sound like a moron for suggesting that an All-Pro NFL QB would not be included. But I actually think McGrew was better at MC under Lenti's system. Though I was a soph at SR when McNabb played one of the best games i've ever seen when 8-0 MC beat 8-0 SR in 93 at Gately.
believe it or not best I saw run the system was Aaron Marshall in 2000. They benched QB week 9 despite being 7-1 and just took off. Was unreal. ie Lucky to beat PC regular season in OT. MC had been outgained 300-100. Played in 5A title game won 38-12. He had transferred in from Michigan Rice.
 
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godfthr53

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I will remove coaches not because they aren't deserving, their impact has been monumental at Naz but rather for arguments sake I think it should have players.

Julian Love
Phil Reed
LaSteven McKinney

Those 3 seem like no brainers the others are a bit harder.

Lyron Brooks
Bart Cason

Tom O'Brien (transfer back and forth and injuries limited him) -
Andrew Winiecki
John Hemmesch (injury SR year hurt him)
Jack Shutack
Michael Owens

Are all names that came up when I asked some Naz people. The 4th would be tough.


Slam Dunks
Julian Love
Phil Reed
LaSteven McKinney


Let me update your list on the 4th
Lyron Brooks
Bart Cason
Andrew Winiecki
Michael Owens
Lundy Swilley
Zavagnin
Moni Fern?
 

DeanOfSelection

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If you include players AND coaches, it's sort of apples and oranges. The challenge is that coaches are usually around for so much longer than players who typically have just one or two years of true greatness. Therefore, a coach's long term impact on the school is going to be greater.

Here is my attempt for Loyola:
Lennie Sachs
Tim Foley
John Hoerster
John Holecek

Not surprisingly, the three Loyola coaches listed are the head coaches with the three longest coaching tenures in Loyola football history.
No Peter Patton?
 
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BretEpic

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I will remove coaches not because they aren't deserving, their impact has been monumental at Naz but rather for arguments sake I think it should have players.

Julian Love
Phil Reed
LaSteven McKinney

Those 3 seem like no brainers the others are a bit harder.

Lyron Brooks
Bart Cason
Tom O'Brien (transfer back and forth and injuries limited him)
Andrew Winiecki
John Hemmesch (injury SR year hurt him)
Jack Shutack
Michael Owens

Are all names that came up when I asked some Naz people. The 4th would be tough.
Love
Reed
McKinney
Owens

Brooks just misses the cut

Love me some Johnny, but he's not in the top 7. Osborne Curtis was arguably more valuable in that class.
 

cmdynasty

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Crete Monee's Mt. Rushmore would consist of: Greg Barksdale, LaQuon Treadwell, Tony Powell and it's a pick'em between Landon Lenoir & Nyles Morgan.
 

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What about PC?
Senffner
Bercich
Steinbach
Boykin

Probably one of the running backs or qb from the mid 90's
 

johnfromthebrook

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no Bailey?

After I made the list I asked the same question to myself but still came to same conclusion.

Some reasoning:

Phil Acton - Came to the Brook from Florida around '79 or '80 and turned the mindset of the program into a winning program in '83 and has never had a losing year since. Raised the bar year after year until it became a perennial power. He retired after I believe 24 years at BHS and turned the program over to Ivlow. Acton is still involved with the program to this day. IHSA Hall of Famer.

Greg Williams - Player of the year in Illinois in '93. All American and in my opinion the best player ever at the Brook. Switched over to Safety at North Carolina and over the course of a few years contributed to one of the top 5 defenses in the country. Spent some time as a Pro and now assistant coach with San Diego Chargers.

Todd Howard - Top 100 national Player (as was Antoneo Harris the same year) and All Everything in his senior year. Went to Michigan and started at corner for 2 or 3 years. Spent some time in various pro leagues. Howard had a nice playing career but so did a pack of others from the Brook. The thing that gets him monumentalized is his contributions to the program as player AND coach. Nobody has that player/coach combination that Howard does. Great career while playing for BHS and after, but he has also been the Defensive Backs coach for what I believe has been over a decade and has coached up some great secondaries in his coaching capacity.

Now for that 4th spot....

Bailey has obviously done great for Bolingbrook and is an absolute elite talent and a winner. Unfortunately, my opinion is he got short changed at Illinois so doesn't have the history that some others do. I think he might just need more time as his story has still not yet been fully written. I watch him fairly often on ESPN3 playing for Northern Iowa and his week over week improvement has been great to watch. Last week he once again lit it up and was a man among boys leading Northern Iowa over #6 Portland State (which beat 8-4 Washington State earlier in the season) in the FCS playoffs. He will be leading Northern Iowa against 4 time defending champion North Dakota State in FCS quarter finals this weekend. I am a big fan of his but he is just starting to get traction at the college level. He did great at Bolingbrook while he was there but so did Antonio Morrison playing for what has been described as best BHS team ever. Really a toss up between the two based on high school performance or maybe Bailey gets slight edge.

vs Antonio Morrison ....or a host of others.

I have been following Morrison's career at Florida for the past 4 years. The guy has absolutely lit it up in every way since being there (he also lit up Florida State QB EJ Manual who was first QB taken in the 2013 draft). He had some starts as a true freshman and by his sophomore year was full time starter. His Junior year he was All SEC and would probably have been drafted in second round or maybe third round as Junior had it not been for serious injury suffered in a bowl game. He has since come back for his 4th year as Captain of one of the nations best defense. Will probably make some All American lists. Coach Macelwain sites Morrison injury comeback as "The story of the football team". Former Florida Head Coach Muschamp now at Auburn stated Morrison would be his first choice if he could take anybody in the draft. When I was in Florida last year I took a visit to the swamp and Morrison had something like 17 tackles that game. His motor is nonstop and doesnt stop making plays. I watch him on TV and he always has a good game. If Florida had any kind of an offense Morrison could very well be leading the Gator defense in the FBS playoffs and possibly to a National Championship. It remains to be seen where he gets drafted or if his 2 collegiate injuries do or do not affect him at the next level. So I have him on the list because of what he has done but I think his story is not yet fully written either.

Unfortunately for an excellent Bailey, he got caught up in a situation at Illinois that slowed him up a bit while Morrison's path at Florida has really allowed him to shine as a player.
 
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Belvidere

Vern Pottinger - Won 5A in 1993, Won 4A in 1994. 2nd in 5A in 1998. Known for his no-huddle hurry up offense out of the wishbone.
Rob DalSanto - All time leading rusher in school history. Played overseas after college. Ran for I believe 2000 yards in one season in the last 80's.
Aaron Latino - Star running back on the 1993 and 1994 teams.
Matt Barr - Quarterback of the 2005 7A semifinalist that lost to Prospect. Over 2000 yards of total offense as a senior in the wishbone. Would have broken every school record if the spread was in vogue back then. Went on to start 4 years at WIU.
 
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For Morris.....the 3 D's

Darlington as coach and player,Dergo..nuff said and Divetwin !!

seriously though after Dergo and Darlington there are many worth consideration that I have to think about it.

A few names Josh Tischer,Mark Sharp,Todd Schultz,Jamie Cumbie,Ed Brady...hopefully Divetwin will add some insight
 
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For Morris.....the 3 D's

Darlington as coach and player,Dergo..nuff said and Divetwin !!

seriously though after Dergo and Darlington there are many worth consideration that I have to think about it.

A few names Josh Tischer,Mark Sharp,Todd Schultz,Jamie Cumbie,Ed Brady...hopefully Divetwin will add some insight
Who's this Dergo guy?
 

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DOS --

Patton was a legendary three sport athlete. Although I am not 100% sure on this, I don't think football was his favorite. He wound up going to DePaul for hoops and probably could have done well in D1 baseball if he wanted. I remember thinking that Peter had the potential to eventually go pro in baseball if he were to devote himself to that sport in college. He definitely had the tools for that. I did not think similarly about his hoops or football potential.

Patton's LA football teams never made it past the semis. In his senior year, Foley's 1965 team captured Loyola's very first Prep Bowl Championship. Just don't think Peter merits the nod over those four.
 

Topiarydan1

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Rice would be Coach Mitchell,Dave Diehl, Mark Donahue and perhaps Schissler/Howe/Barounes/Shouse/Lamar Summers/Nicholson?
 

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Greg Luzinski and a few others from the Monster Squads of the mid-late 60's need mention.
 
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Rice would be Coach Mitchell,Dave Diehl, Mark Donahue and perhaps Schissler/Howe/Barounes/Shouse/Lamar Summers/Nicholson?
Hmm
Rice would be Coach Mitchell,Dave Diehl, Mark Donahue and perhaps Schissler/Howe/Barounes/Shouse/Lamar Summers/Nicholson?
I'm impressed with your knowledge of BR football. Had to Google some of those names. Please give me some background on Howe and Shouse.
 

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DOS --

Patton was a legendary three sport athlete. Although I am not 100% sure on this, I don't think football was his favorite. He wound up going to DePaul for hoops and probably could have done well in D1 baseball if he wanted. I remember thinking that Peter had the potential to eventually go pro in baseball if he were to devote himself to that sport in college. He definitely had the tools for that. I did not think similarly about his hoops or football potential.

Patton's LA football teams never made it past the semis. In his senior year, Foley's 1965 team captured Loyola's very first Prep Bowl Championship. Just don't think Peter merits the nod over those four.

As good as Foley was, he got injured mid-season that year against Gordon, and finished out the season as the kicker.
Patton, on the other hand, started as a soph, and led an under-performing program to two consecutive semi-finals, losing closely both times.
 

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Loyola...

Holecek
Hoerster
Foley
Romanski / Naughton / Laja / Clifford - Could pick one any one these as the fourth, they all have a strong argument.

and then all the O'D's, O'B's, Sully's, Dowdle's and Gleason's...
 

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MC should include Lenti, Frank Pinn, Tony Furjanic, and the guy whose QB stats remain the very best and who led the Caravan to consecutive state title victories over the Wheaton crowd, Mike McGrew.
 

DeanOfSelection

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Loyola...

Holecek
Hoerster
Foley
Romanski / Naughton / Laja / Clifford - Could pick one any one these as the fourth, they all have a strong argument.

and then all the O'D's, O'B's, Sully's, Dowdle's and Gleason's...
Holocek also on Marian's
 

brownandwhite

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I sound like a moron for suggesting that an All-Pro NFL QB would not be included. But I actually think McGrew was better at MC under Lenti's system. Though I was a soph at SR when McNabb played one of the best games i've ever seen when 8-0 MC beat 8-0 SR in 93 at Gately.

McGrew definitely, because he has the overall best QB stats in MC history and led the Caravan to back to back state championship wins over the Wheaton crowd. As a high school player, McNabb is way down the list. Add Frank Lenti, Frank Pinn (held the career rushing record for 47 years, played on three city championship teams), and the dominating guard/LB Tony Furjanic. What a mountain ! ! !
 

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McClain a little bit of a checkered past now of course but he is on there. Baseball MR you'd have McClain, Pappas, Hurry and I am ready to put Alek Thomas on already. Cannot have Malee do to his current affiliation with the Cubs. LOL. All Sports Williams no doubt is on. Chelios woulda been had family not moved.
 
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He won ten U.S. national, three consecutive NCAA (1996–1998) and two Pan American Games titles (1999 and 2003), scored two bronze medals in the 74 and 76-kg division at the World Championships (2001 and 2005), and finished fifth at the 2004 Summer Olympics, considering one of the most decorated wrestling athletes in United States sporting history.

finished high school with an impressive 152–1 overall record, including 95 career falls and a single violation from an illegal slam on his freshman season. He was also named 1992 and 1993 Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by Chicago Tribune.[4]
 

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He won ten U.S. national, three consecutive NCAA (1996–1998) and two Pan American Games titles (1999 and 2003), scored two bronze medals in the 74 and 76-kg division at the World Championships (2001 and 2005), and finished fifth at the 2004 Summer Olympics, considering one of the most decorated wrestling athletes in United States sporting history.

finished high school with an impressive 152–1 overall record, including 95 career falls and a single violation from an illegal slam on his freshman season. He was also named 1992 and 1993 Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by Chicago Tribune.[4]
In the one loss he had he didn't lose on the mat, he was disqualified for some reason. His brother was excellent too.

And as I read it again for an illegal slam.