Who would you call a home run hire?
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Given our roster, Art Briles would win quicker than most.
Art Briles is the home run
Art Briles is the home run
Anyone that is a proven winner with a previous history of program building would qualify, at least in my opinion. Show me a coach that can take what on paper appears to be only average talent and compete with the big boys on a regular basis. That is the type of coach we need at UK. We are never going to be able to recruit with the Alabama's of the world, so we have to have someone capable of doing more with less. Bobby Petrino certainly comes to mind. That guy can take a roster full of 2 and 3 star kids and whip the *** of teams that have much higher rated recruiting classes. Tom Herman at Houston is another example. Jeff Brohm is another. Both of those guys can compete well above their fighting weight. Jeff Brohm last year at Western took mid-major talent and went 11-2 and broke into the top 25. Gary Pinkel (formerly of Missouri) is another one of those guys. Even our own Rich Brooks had some of those traits.
A home run hire is not always a flashy hire. I'll take substance over flash any day of the week. Had Mitch likewise used that sort of criteria to guide his decision, we might not be in this mess now. Stoops was to some degree a rather flashy hire, given he came to us from FSU and is the brother of Bob. But he was also a risky hire because he had no history of building a program or being in overall control of a team. We really should have hired Petrino when he was available. Doing so would have all but guaranteed UK would have achieved some sustained success. Petrino was as close to a sure thing that existed. But because he might not qualify as a Sunday school teacher, he was passed over for our current disaster.
A home run hire is not always a flashy hire. I'll take substance over flash any day of the week. Had Mitch likewise used that sort of criteria to guide his decision, we might not be in this mess now. Stoops was to some degree a rather flashy hire, given he came to us from FSU and is the brother of Bob. But he was also a risky hire because he had no history of building a program or being in overall control of a team. We really should have hired Petrino when he was available. Doing so would have all but guaranteed UK would have achieved some sustained success. Petrino was as close to a sure thing that existed. But because he might not qualify as a Sunday school teacher, he was passed over for our current disaster.
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Now for me Herman or Briles top shelf.
Next shelf Down Brohm and App ST HC
Next shelf Butch Davis,Tressel,Mike Leach
I like your list except for Briles. Not sure if I would want him here. He is a very good coach though
Joel Osteen. He would meet most of our AD's prereq's
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Ok. Not the sexy name you may be looking for, but what about a coach like Mike Sherman? Lots of experience. College, pros, front office. Knows what it takes to compete at the highest level. After getting let go at A&M, most likely has something left to prove. kinda reminiscent of Brooks but with a better resume?
If Stoops ends up taking Mitch out with him he'll have been a home run hire.
Some present pain for big future gain.
Some present pain for big future gain.
Lol mark stoops and Jim tressel aren't on the same level of coaching hierarchy.
These clowns can't coach though. I think Ohio has to be part of the equation, but this staff has shown no ability to keep the lockeroom bought into their system. Four straight years of multiple games where they team shows no fight. This staff has more problems than talent level.
Im telling you! You could set up a contract with him and make sure in his contract he pays a percentage to Abused woman charities or whatever. Let him right his wrongs. Say he gets 2.5 mill a year just throwing number out there 250 grand goes towards abused woman organizations. I'm mean this can be turned out to be good for Kentucky and woman who have suffered abuse and rape etc... Make him hold clinic every off season for abused woman. People you can turn all things around and make them positive. You just got to think outside the box.Art Brilesray:
In no particular order: Meyer, Saban, Kelly, Harbaugh, Dabo, Patterson, Herman, Stoops (not the one at UK), Peterson, Shaw, Dantonio, Petrino, Cutcliffe, Fisher, Richt. None of them are coming to UK.
So of guys that might be obtainable (in order): Tressel (don't care for ol' sweater vest but he's an elite football coach, elite), Fleck (up and comer, great enthusiasm, gets it, not at WMU long), Brohm.
Ingtriguing: Schiano
No's: Briles (damaged goods), Butch D (way too much baggage), Leach (he can pirate a different program), Miles (what does he look like without top 5 talent).
No F Way: Mike Sherman
So of guys that might be obtainable (in order): Tressel (don't care for ol' sweater vest but he's an elite football coach, elite), Fleck (up and comer, great enthusiasm, gets it, not at WMU long), Brohm.
Ingtriguing: Schiano
No's: Briles (damaged goods), Butch D (way too much baggage), Leach (he can pirate a different program), Miles (what does he look like without top 5 talent).
No F Way: Mike Sherman
P.J. Fleck without a doubt. Young energetic and turned a dumpster fire of a program around at Western Michigan.
Todd Graham. I thnk he only has 2 yrs on his contact and only makes $2.8 mil/yr. has had 10 win seasons 5 of last 10 yrs at Tulsa and Arizona St. Defensive background but worked w Malzahn and Rich Rod. One of the better, experienced guys we might actually have a shot at getting.
UKErik had a great post earlier on how to fix the program. I agreed with everything he said in the post. At least let him be a consultant.
BTW Brohm is my pick as well
BTW Brohm is my pick as well
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The answer to this question is Tom Herman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Herman_(American_football)
Proven winner everywhere, at every level. Key point: has experience winning at programs that were not winners previously.
Proven winner everywhere, at every level. Key point: has experience winning at programs that were not winners previously.
Tom Hermans next job will not be UK.
It's comical some think it's a possibility.
It's comical some think it's a possibility.
Fleck and Brohm are really the only two realistic ones.
Briles just isnt happening.
Miles would be a nightmare. He cant win with LSU's talent. Hows he going to do it with our talent, in the same league no less?
Briles just isnt happening.
Miles would be a nightmare. He cant win with LSU's talent. Hows he going to do it with our talent, in the same league no less?
I almost laughed out loud in court reading that post. Sadly, it's true but only if the Pope turns down the job.