Why do libs hate ICE?

MTTiger19

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Short answer is yes. But to highlight the difference, Biden didn’t have guys on the street sticking people in the arms with needles. None of this is right, but there is absolutely a better way to go about handling it. Has to be.
They kinda did. They were forcing every company with over 100 employees to mandate vaccines. I was threatened with termination along with about 80 of my colleagues on a conference call in February of 2022 for not being vaccinated. They were given authority by the government to fire people for not taking a vaccine. Not only fire, but termination with cause meaning they couldn’t get the precious subsidies (unemployment) that these freeloaders get. All the while the border was wide open and 10s of millions were streaming in with who the hell knows what kinda vaccine status. That was the absolute most un-American thing I’ve ever lived through. Give American citizens a choice, to lose their job or get a vaccine while allowing millions in completely unvetted. ICE is out enforcing laws that the previous administration ignored. That’s their fault.

if you’re a moderate as it appears you are. You should’ve been out protesting vaccine mandates and illegals. This was bound to happen after allowing the Biden administration to do whatever they wanted. What do you expect? People wanted this!

people were so fed up with the leftist agenda they gave DJT the keys and said “fix this”. To which he said, “hold my beer.” This is FAFO on a scale we’ve never seen.
 
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dpic73

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They kinda did. They were forcing every company with over 100 employees to mandate vaccines. I was threatened with termination along with about 80 of my colleagues on a conference call in February of 2022 for not being vaccinated. They were given authority by the government to fire people for not taking a vaccine. Not only fire, but termination with cause meaning they couldn’t get the precious subsidies (unemployment) that these freeloaders get. All the while the border was wide open and 10s of millions were streaming in with who the hell knows what kinda vaccine status. That was the absolute most un-American thing I’ve ever lived through. Give American citizens a choice, to lose their job or get a vaccine while allowing millions in completely unvetted. ICE is out enforcing laws that the previous administration ignored. That’s their fault.

if you’re a moderate as it appears you are. You should’ve been out protesting vaccine mandates and illegals. This was bound to happen after allowing the Biden administration to do whatever they wanted. What do you expect? People wanted this!

people were so fed up with the leftist agenda they gave DJT the keys and said “fix this”. To which he said, “hold my beer.” This is FAFO on a scale we’ve never seen.
Wow, if only there was a simple, painless way to avoid all that drama.
 

dpic73

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Have you heard from Michelle today? Are you Michelle/michael
You mock her but Michelle knows, like the rest us, that it won't be long before you're all lower caste deplorables again, sidelined by society. You would do yourself a favor if you wised up and picked up what she's putting down.
 

Jfcarter3

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Biden allowed 25MM illegal people into the country. we have to get them out. there's not really a better way.

A "better way" would've been not to completely open our border to being with. but that horse is out of the barn.
I mean, since we’re bringing up old ****, like a failed wall?
 

Jfcarter3

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Those aren’t the same. Trying to build a wall to enforce your border isn’t the same as not enforcing laws meant to secure it.
Welp, they both failed at border control in that regard, so, same in their failure.
 

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You mock her but Michelle knows, like the rest us, that it won't be long before you're all lower caste deplorables again, sidelined by society. You would do yourself a favor if you wised up and picked up what she's putting down.
What's she putting down?
 
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dpic73

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Of what are you asking to see proof? millions of illegals in our country?
Where are you getting the data that shows Biden let in double the number of illegals that are known to be here in TOTAL?

I get it that lies are part of the maga DNA because you know all your fellow insurrectionists will take you at your word, just because you said it, but they are not me. I expect you to prove it.
 
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Clemblack

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Where are you getting the data that shows Biden let in double the number of illegals that are known to be here in TOTAL?

I get it that lies are part of the maga DNA because you know all your fellow insurrectionists will take you at your word, just because you said it, but they are not me. I expect you to prove it.


how many illegals do you believe the Biden administration allowed into our country? this should be good.
 
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MTTiger19

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So the number just doubled?
Serious question. What does it matter? If it was 50 million or 50,000 it was wrong and it’s too many. This isn’t the issue, the number isn’t what people care about. It’s the fact that we are allowing them in, lettting them vote and putting them on social programs that they’re not eligible for. If it was just one, it’s one too many. How many children have been trafficked bc of this?? If it was one, it was one too many.
 

dpic73

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how many illegals do you believe the Biden administration allowed into our country? this should be good.
Sorry, that's not how this works. You don't get to make an absurdly bombastic claim, then not show the evidence when asked, only to turn around and ask me a question. Show me your proof.
 

Jfcarter3

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Serious question. What does it matter? If it was 50 million or 50,000 it was wrong and it’s too many. This isn’t the issue, the number isn’t what people care about. It’s the fact that we are allowing them in, lettting them vote and putting them on social programs that they’re not eligible for. If it was just one, it’s one too many. How many children have been trafficked bc of this?? If it was one, it was one too many.
I mean, it kind of matters. Bigger the number, bigger the response?

You were doing great and I was agreeing to you until you brought in human trafficking. That premise is flawed because it assumes that only illegals are engaged in human trafficking. Better question, and I am absolutely positive you don't care about it, is how many non-us citizens were trafficked? They seem to be much easier targets...

Also highlights how "facts" change to fuel outrage. And instead of asking for proof, y'all just grab it and go. Kind of like how there was a post earlier in this thread about someone in 2022 in another country being beheaded. That has no place in this thread, but it was dropped in here anyway.
 

MTTiger19

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I mean, it kind of matters. Bigger the number, bigger the response?

You were doing great and I was agreeing to you until you brought in human trafficking. That premise is flawed because it assumes that only illegals are engaged in human trafficking. Better question, and I am absolutely positive you don't care about it, is how many non-us citizens were trafficked? They seem to be much easier targets...

Also highlights how "facts" change to fuel outrage. And instead of asking for proof, y'all just grab it and go. Kind of like how there was a post earlier in this thread about someone in 2022 in another country being beheaded. That has no place in this thread, but it was dropped in here anyway.
Wrong. It highlights the importance of knowing who is in the country. When you don’t vet millions of people you put yourself in a horrible position to be complicit in some of these crimes. Bc you choose not to vet them you could have seriously dangerous people here. We know about the domestic people that commit crimes bc we know who they are and where they are. Big difference.
 
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Clemblack

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Sorry, that's not how this works. You don't get to make an absurdly bombastic claim, then not show the evidence when asked, only to turn around and ask me a question. Show me your proof.


I see all sorts of differing numbers. they are all estimates.

I ask in earnest - how many illegals came in under Biden? Teach me.
 

MTTiger19

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I see all sorts of differing numbers. they are all estimates.

I ask in earnest - how many illegals came in under Biden? Teach me.
Semantics. It was a democrat sponsored invasion. The numbers are irrelevant, what’s it matter if it’s 10 million vs 20 million?
 

Jfcarter3

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Semantics. It was a democrat sponsored invasion. The numbers are irrelevant, what’s it matter if it’s 10 million vs 20 million?
"Sponsored" is misleading. There may have been more of a blind eye, but I don't think it was openly endorsed.
 
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TigerRagRob

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They’re not deflecting, they’re happy. This is what they wanted. They want authoritarianism that includes the maximum amount of cruelty and the least amount of empathy possible. This makes them love the President even more.
So enforcing the law is authoritarian now?
 
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dpic73

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I see all sorts of differing numbers. they are all estimates.

I ask in earnest - how many illegals came in under Biden? Teach me.
I'm sure you do see numbers from pathological liars like Trump and his lackeys and that's why you can't trust anything coming from the right-wing echo chamber.

It's hard to nail down the exact number for many reasons but the concensus seems to be ~ 3.5 MIL, which is way too many but drastically different than the number you threw out.
 
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TigerRagRob

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I'm sure you do see numbers from pathological liars like Trump and his lackeys and that's why you can't trust anything coming from the right-wing echo chamber.

It's hard to nail down the exact number for many reasons but the concensus seems to be ~ 3.5 MIL, which is way too many but drastically different than the number you threw out.
Trumps lies or your lies little Harry Sission?
 

Clemblack

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I'm sure you do see numbers from pathological liars like Trump and his lackeys and that's why you can't trust anything coming from the right-wing echo chamber.

It's hard to nail down the exact number for many reasons but the concensus seems to be ~ 3.5 MIL, which is way too many but drastically different than the number you threw out.


3.5MM is way too many? why do you believe that number is too many? help me understand. that honestly sounds like a MAGA stance, so I'm particularly interested in your opinion here.
 

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3.5MM is way too many? why do you believe that number is too many? help me understand. that honestly sounds like a MAGA stance, so I'm particularly interested in your opinion here.
3.5 Million Undocumented Individuals of the 340 Million total population of the U.S. is literally a little over 1% of the population. That's almost a statistical anomaly. I'll say the quiet part out loud:

- I don't care
- I want them here
- They make the states a better place
- Diversity is a net positive
- I have no issue with my white collar job/tax dollars helping/paying for their benefits when they need it (which is the only time they get it, in cases of emergency and not regular health care).
- I currently employ and have always employed undocumented individuals and always will
- They don't vote (this isn't a voter block MAGA conspiracy theory LOL)
- Undocumented individuals have always been accepted by Blue Collar America (which I grew up as) until Trump came along and stoked your hatred of other. A white collared nepo baby racist. Be smarter

MAGA/ICE are truly a disgrace to everything that makes America, America.
 

Clemblack

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3.5 Million Undocumented Individuals of the 340 Million total population of the U.S. is literally a little over 1% of the population. That's almost a statistical anomaly. I'll say the quiet part out loud:

- I don't care
- I want them here
- They make the states a better place
- Diversity is a net positive
- I have no issue with my white collar job/tax dollars helping/paying for their benefits when they need it (which is the only time they get it, in cases of emergency and not regular health care).
- I currently employ and have always employed undocumented individuals and always will
- They don't vote (this isn't a voter block MAGA conspiracy theory LOL)
- Undocumented individuals have always been accepted by Blue Collar America (which I grew up as) until Trump came along and stoked your hatred of other. A white collared nepo baby racist. Be smarter

MAGA/ICE are truly a disgrace to everything that makes America, America.


I am sorry this is happening to you lol.
 
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