Why does MSU keep doing this.................

[Indndawg]

<h1 style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; font-size: 26px; font-weight: bold ! important; color: rgb(0, 5, 150) ! important; text-decoration: none ! important;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> Mississippi State women's basketball coach Sharon Fanning up for raise, contract extension</span></h1> <div class="byline" style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 11px;"> <p class="clearfix" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 5, 150) ! important; font-weight: normal ! important; display: inline-block;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> <span class="byline" style="float: left;">By Associated Press</span></span></p> <p class="date" style="margin: 2px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal ! important;">4:22 PM CDT, June 16, 2009</p> </div> <div id="story-body" class="articlebody clearfix" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline-block; color: rgb(0, 5, 150) ! important; font-weight: normal ! important;"> JACKSON, Miss. (AP) - Mississippi State women's basketball coach Sharon Fanning is up for a raise and a contract extension.

The state College Board will consider a proposed raise from $167,092 to $230,000 and a two-year contract extension at its meeting Wednesday and Thursday.

The board's approval is usually a formality and the extension would push Fanning's contract to 2013, the longest allowed under state law.

Fanning, in her 33rd year as a head coach, guided the Bulldogs to a 23-10 record and the second round of the NCAA tournament last season. She has won 556 career games at Tennessee-Chattanooga, Kentucky and Mississippi State, with 233 of those victories while in Starkville.

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">One good season</span>
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[Indndawg]

<h1 style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; font-size: 26px; font-weight: bold ! important; color: rgb(0, 5, 150) ! important; text-decoration: none ! important;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> Mississippi State women's basketball coach Sharon Fanning up for raise, contract extension</span></h1> <div class="byline" style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 11px;"> <p class="clearfix" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 5, 150) ! important; font-weight: normal ! important; display: inline-block;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> <span class="byline" style="float: left;">By Associated Press</span></span></p> <p class="date" style="margin: 2px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal ! important;">4:22 PM CDT, June 16, 2009</p> </div> <div id="story-body" class="articlebody clearfix" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline-block; color: rgb(0, 5, 150) ! important; font-weight: normal ! important;"> JACKSON, Miss. (AP) - Mississippi State women's basketball coach Sharon Fanning is up for a raise and a contract extension.

The state College Board will consider a proposed raise from $167,092 to $230,000 and a two-year contract extension at its meeting Wednesday and Thursday.

The board's approval is usually a formality and the extension would push Fanning's contract to 2013, the longest allowed under state law.

Fanning, in her 33rd year as a head coach, guided the Bulldogs to a 23-10 record and the second round of the NCAA tournament last season. She has won 556 career games at Tennessee-Chattanooga, Kentucky and Mississippi State, with 233 of those victories while in Starkville.

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">One good season</span>
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[DerHntr]

idiocy still abound in the AD. wow.

 

[Todd4State]

She had a pretty good season last year, and they will probably make the NCAA Tournament next year.

 

[RebelBruiser]

I think if I was an AD, I would try to find a nice cheap coach for the women's basketball program and let them win or lose for 10-15 years without concern. I'd save more money for the football and men's basketball programs. No one goes to women's games anyway, so I would assume that the return you get for ponying up for a coach is probably negative. I'd imagine at both our schools that the attendance difference between a 10-20 season and an NCAA tournament season is probably on a thousand or so fans total for the whole year if that.

 

[Stansfield]

Her raise should be based on how much money the program makes. I may be totally wrong though. Does women's bball make any money?

 

[Hanmudog]

I have never been a big Fanning fan but she had a good year and has a really good returning team. Don't forget she was basically cheated out of the Sweet 16 by those Ohio State officials. I think the men's and women's teams have a great shot at advancing at least to the Sweet 16 this year.

 

[DerHntr]

her contract was until 2011 and making 167K. so she does well this year. tell her that if she can do it again, with a good, experienced team coming back, then she can expect to see a significant raise and an extension. since the original contract expires in 2011 it shouldn't hurt her recruiting of new players over this coming year.

it just seems premature after her record prior to last year.</p>

 

[Agentdog]

Sharon Fanning is the most successful coach in the short history of women's basketball at MSU. State had not even come close to having a winning season in SEC basketball until Sharon Fanning arrived. As a matter of fact, as pathetic as most of State's athletic programs are.....women's baskeball was probably the most. We had numerous years where we won 0-1 SEC games all season. Then along comes Fanning. In a few short years, we have our first winning SEC season in the programs history and first NCAA appearance. Not to mention the number of outstanding players she has recruited. She deserves the raise because she has done a good job. Plus, she is still one of the lowest paid women's baskeball coaches in the conference and country.</p>

 

[Paper Dog]

Because Sharon Fanning is the best thing that has ever happened to MSU women's basketball

 

[Todd4State]

Her raise should be based on how much money the program makes. I may be totally wrong though. Does women's bball make any money?

was that she got a raise. I didn't realize you were talking about the money of the actual raise.

Well, it's going to come from football, right or wrong in all likelihood.

I still don't have that much of a problem with it, though.

 

[Hanmudog]

A coach should be paid for winning. If the fans don't come support a winning team then that is not the coach's fault. Fanning has the hardest job in the SEC with 3/4 of the SEC being in the top 25 every year.

 

[Stansfield]

A sport program should be judged based on fan support in my opinion.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Women's sports produce no revenue, but that doesn't mean their coaches shouldn't be paid. They work hard too. Fanning really turned up the heat in recruiting and like someone else said, we very nearly made it further than any team in school history. She did a good job and should be rewarded for that.

 

[Hanmudog]

You think we should pay a losing coach alot of money because the fans show up to see us lose but we should not pay a winning coach because the fans don't show up to watch us win? Marketing and getting fans there is the responsibility of the athletic dept. and the fans themselves if the coach has put together a winning program.

Disclaimer: I am all for a pay reduction for Fanning everytime she makes one of her jokes on the rubber chicken circuit.

 

[Stansfield]

You think we should pay a losing coach alot of money because the fans show up to see us lose but we should not pay a winning coach because the fans don't show up to watch us win?

I didn't say that at all. If a coach starts bleeding fans then he/she should be fired. PERIOD. If a sport does not start attracting fans and generating revenue then I don't think more and more money should be pumped into it like a sports bailout.

I have heard all of the reason's why we can't afford men's soccer, but then we are giving raises to coaches not generating any revenue. It just makes me bitter.

 

[bullysleftnut]

You think we should pay a losing coach alot of money because the fans show up to see us lose but we should not pay a winning coach because the fans don't show up to watch us win?

Isn't that kind of what we've been doing all these years?

Croom: multi-million dollar contract for 21 wins in 5 years, Fanning 167K a year for pulling our women's bball program out of the dumpster and making it at least respectable.

I'd say his way hasn't been working very well -- I agree that Fanning deserves the raise.

 

[Stansfield]

I'd say his way hasn't been working very well -- I agree that Fanning deserves the raise.

Fanning may deserve the raise, but if we are going to be spending money on sports that don't make any money, then give men's soccer a chance.

 

[bullysleftnut]

You think we should pay a losing coach alot of money because the fans show up to see us lose but we should not pay a winning coach because the fans don't show up to watch us win?

I didn't say that at all. If a coach starts bleeding fans then he/she should be fired. PERIOD. If a sport does not start attracting fans and generating revenue then I don't think more and more money should be pumped into it like a sports bailout.

I have heard all of the reason's why we can't afford men's soccer, but then we are giving raises to coaches not generating any revenue. It just makes me bitter.

The only way to get fans is to win. Why did Tennessee fans start caring about women's basketball? Why did MSU fans start caring about baseball? Hell, for that matter why did Ole Miss fans start caring about baseball? Because they were winners.

The only way to build a winning program is to show that you are serious about it, and that starts by hiring and retaining good coaches. If our women's basketball program wins a couple of SEC titles or makes a Final Four I guarantee you that attendance will increase a good bit.

 

[graddawg]

Which men's sport do you propose dropping in favor of soccer? If the answer is none we'd have to add another women's sport as well to stay in Title IX compliance. That cost to start two new sports would be substantial.

 

[patdog]

South Carolina and Kentucky are the only two schools in the SEC that play men's soccer, and they play in CUSA (the only CUSA schools near here that play men's soccer are Memphis and UAB). Travel and scheduling would be a *****.

 

[MSUCostanza]

We don't exactly have money lying around to start up sports. We can barely fund the ones we have.

 

[Hanmudog]

I am kidding of course but it is a damn source of annual embarrassment for the University compared to the other sports programs over the last decade. Dan Mullen deserves a likeness the size of the Statue of Liberty on campus if he can make us a winner.

 

[seingeyedog]

but if it did, men's soccer could be offset (Title IX) with women's gymnastics. Won't happen though any time soon. We need to just concentrate on bettering the programs and facilities we have now.

 

[Indndawg]

reward her w/a bigger contract and extension.

We did this w/Croom after 07 and look what it got us, a big hole to dig out of.

We did this w/JWS in 00 after the bama win...& look what we got in 01, 02, & 03

 

[Todd4State]

Croom had a great season in 07, and it looked like he was making some progress, even though the jury was still out long term.

We also gave Jackie a raise after the 2000 season, but this was also after two of our best seasons in our football history- in 1998 and 1999.

I don't think the answer is to not give raises for one season of good performance. I think the answer is accountability. That's what was missing before with Jackie, and for Croom until last year. If Fanning has a losing season next year, she will probably be fired or at least be on the hot seat.

I don't think Byrne would have let Jackie have a 2003 because he would have been gone after 2002 at the latest, and we saw what he did to Croom.

 

[Indndawg]

by the lack of accountability after these extensions

 

[hotdigitydog]

we come out cheaper this way........She looks like Mr. Ed...........

 

[TDAWG.sixpack]

Fanning is a good coach and deserves the raise. She was screwed out of the Sweet 16 this past year. One of the biggest reasons turnout is so low at womens games is that we dont really advertise the games much. I watch the women play tenn in the hump last year and there was a really good crowd (4629 from official stats). True no money may be made at the gate but people visit the concession stand and also you must include advertising into profit.
All in all attendance will rise with more students living on campus and success on the court.

 

[TDAWG.sixpack]

MSU overall record before Fanning 248-327 (43.1%)
MSU record with Fanning 233-186 (55.6%)