Why does Stans refuse to bring in Phil for Barry?

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Barry continues to take people one on one like he is Lebron yet Benock is the only guy Stans will sub for him. I think it's clear that Osby needs more minutes too and the only way that's going to happen is if Phil can play more at the 2 instead of coming in for Kodi at the 4.

Other than that, good performance again today. And I was glad that Stans staggered his substitutions in the first half instead of bringing everyone in at once.</p>
 

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Barry continues to take people one on one like he is Lebron yet Benock is the only guy Stans will sub for him. I think it's clear that Osby needs more minutes too and the only way that's going to happen is if Phil can play more at the 2 instead of coming in for Kodi at the 4.

Other than that, good performance again today. And I was glad that Stans staggered his substitutions in the first half instead of bringing everyone in at once.</p>
 

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can guard the other team's 2 just as good as Benock? On offense, Phil floats around on the perimeter just like Barry. I don't have anything against Barry, I would just prefer that he played 25 minutes per game as oppossed to 35. He gets to jack up contested shots and play with impunity at the expense of Osby and others minutes.
 

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someone please ask this basic question. Kodi Augustus asked and the only response he got was from Coach Kirby who simply said, "we can't do that".

Barry was 2-11 today and played 37 minutes!!
 

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2 people stepped up to guard him, there was a clear kick to Raverne and Stewart still threw it up.

Turner with 17 minutes. That's atrocious. Its arguable he's our 2nd best player.

Definitely pleased as a whole though. Looking forward to wed.
 

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8Dog said:
Turner with 17 minutes. That's atrocious. Its arguable he's our 2nd best player.
I'm glad there are other people who realize this. There are still people who only notice when he screws up. For every bonehead play he makes, he makes about 6 good plays and one or two great plays. Phil Turner should get at least about 24 minutes per game. Stewart would be a very good maybe even great role player if he would just accept that role or if Stans would force him into that role.

I feel bad complaining about anything, though. I think we look great right now. I really think if we can win in Oxford, we might not lose again until February.
 

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about basketball and what it takes to be a good player is off the chart--yours and everyone else who continues to bash Barry Stewart, certainly our most clutch player. I was at the game today, and the UCLA fans marveled at three players--Barry, Ravern and Jarvis. They could not stop talking about what a great defender and hustler Barry Stewart is and what a great shot he has. In his post game show, the UCLA coach singled out Barry Stewart for praise. Those of you who continue to bash him would only notice the two bad plays he had in the game, and on both of those plays he was hustling to the basket trying to draw a foul and a possible three point play. LAY OFF Barry Stewart and stop showing your ignorance. He is one of ours and one of the best players on our team.
 

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8Dog said:
2 people stepped up to guard him, there was a clear kick to Raverne and Stewart still threw it up.

Turner with 17 minutes. That's atrocious. Its arguable he's our 2nd best player.

Definitely pleased as a whole though. Looking forward to wed.

But there is no way he's our second best player. Jarvis, Dee, Kodi, and yes, Barry are better than Phil. He's a perfect 6th man, though.
 

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but I don't know that he's our best player. And if Dee controls the game like he did today, then yes, I'd put him ahead of Phil.

Turner is a beast, and if he'd get the shots Barry gets, he'd find his stroke.

Barry? For real?
 

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I didn't intend for this to be a bash Barry thread. It's more about the amazing unwillingness of Stansbury to play Augustus and Phil at the same time. Osby only got 8 minutes, Turner 17, and Augustus 22.

Barry's play didn't warrant 37 minutes. He was 2-11 from the field. He only grabbed 2 boards. And on a day where our ball movement was exceptional, he was forcing shot after shot including the play where he passed up a wide-open, red-hot, Ravern Johnson. He is a good, but not great defender. I saw him drop too low off of Roll twice and Roll buried the shots. Barry is a senior and he brings toughness and some other good things to the table, but he should really be playing 25 to 30 minutes a game.
 

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Had Twanny not been injured Coach Stansbury would have forced 5-7 minutes per game for that super star because he is a "1" and we could have been exposed to more minutes for Barry at the "2"

Barry plays hard, hustles, must be a remarkable practice player, says yes sir and all that. I don't dislike the guy, but when the best attribute is, uh, he is the glue? I would rather see him stuck to the bench for a few more minutes per game. The shooting %'s of his are horrible. We beat the dog **** out of this UCLA team, well done too I might add, but our recipe for disaster is when both Barry and Ravern go cold in the same night. Ravern went off. Props. Not once the whole night did a UCLA player get a solid lick/foul on him. Do you think the SEC coaches who scout our team will allow that, no way? Watch for it once we start conference play, it has happened the past two seasons. Maybe Ravern can fight through it this season, but at a buck-60, I doubt it.

To repeat our subs should be primarily Osby, & Turner. Those are the guys who need the most minutes. Our team simply flows better with Phil in the game.

Great victory.
 

jcdawgman18

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is that Phil is a TERRIBLE ball handler. He leaves the ball exposed. Very exposed. That's why you don't see Phil ever play the two. He would then have to be the secondary ball handler, and that's no good.
 

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kired said:
Keon Humphries trying to catch a wide open pass

To this day I think Tray Rutland would have been a descent QB if Keon would have caught that ball against South Carolina.
 

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He is a SHOOTING GUARD!!!!!!!!! He has thrown more bricks than the Alabama fan base.

Phil Turner should get the starting nod. Randy should spell him off the bench.
 

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Chem70 said:
about basketball and what it takes to be a good player is off the chart--yours and everyone else who continues to bash Barry Stewart, certainly our most clutch player. I was at the game today, and the UCLA fans marveled at three players--Barry, Ravern and Jarvis. They could not stop talking about what a great defender and hustler Barry Stewart is and what a great shot he has. In his post game show, the UCLA coach singled out Barry Stewart for praise. Those of you who continue to bash him would only notice the two bad plays he had in the game, and on both of those plays he was hustling to the basket trying to draw a foul and a possible three point play. LAY OFF Barry Stewart and stop showing your ignorance. He is one of ours and one of the best players on our team.

im away from my computer on a cell phone but i will try.. its a ***** doing this so please excuse the non caps First of all, how in your right mind can you think he is our most clutch player? For the record, i think barry is a great player who contributes alot to our team. Good leadership and sound play are two things that come to mind, but in no way is he our most clutch player. The main question here is why he gets so much playing time when he continiously throws up bad shots and goes 2 for 11 while playing the most minutes out of anyone on the team. If you were at the game then you should have noticed the times when he put up these pittiful attemps at a basket. So its obvious that your failure to see that he is our weakest link in the starting line up is 'off the chart'. Barry played great defense this game and he has the potential at times to be one of our top players. He just contnues his ******** ***** attemps at shots. How can anyonw in their right mind not see this? Other than that he is a great player. just not one who deserves 37 !!*$#$$ minutes when codi phil and osby need more minutes. sorry barry but you have got to stop throwing up bricks.
 

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I feel like Barry has been appointed the Team Leader by Coach Stans, even if he isn't a vocal outwards leader, per se. That is probably a tough role for him to play. When we play teams with a better defense (UCLA didn't do so great yesterday) teams that extend defense out on the perimeter.....we will get deep in the shot clock and it is time for the "Leader" to step up. This is where Barry probably wants to barf, but goes ahead anyway and drives to the basket. I have to give him credit in this instance. He has two moves, one where he goes under the basket and shields the defender with the rim. This is his better move, the other one is the one that we all cringe when he serves it up, falling away, weak-style. Usually he ends up slammed on the court with no foul called and he walks off holding his wrist (we have seen this over and over).

Just like when Jarvis get abused by larger centers and he ends up rubbing his eye or head in some way(we have seen this over and over).

Yesterday for instance, I think Barry hit his first two shots so that would mean he was effectively 0-9 after that so one must ask when Ravern is 10-11 and Osby is shooting well and others are scoring well, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? continuing to hoist up bricks. Coach Stans has to ask that question, really it isn't a question, it is a statement to Barry, "Stop shooting please." Instead we hear in a hoarse voice on the postgame show, "Well Jack, Barry does the little things, hustling, stepping up, blah blah, shooters just have to keep shooting....." Except if you are Kodi, and you take miss a 3 early in the shot clock and Stans pulls you immediately. Kodi has to wonder why Barry gets to effectively miss 9 in a row and receive praise while Kodi gets yanked after missing one or two? I wonder that too.

To answer some on here about why Phil and Kodi don't play together, Rick would tell you that we don't have sufficient depth at 4 and that Phil has to give us that right now. I think that is false. For now with our current player situations meaning no Sidney, Osby backing up 4 is better than Phil doing so. Phil should get those minutes at 2. What that means is we have less of Barry at the 2. Barry can be an awful offensive liability. Osby needs minutes too. His is one of the most talented young players and he got what, 10 minutes yesterday? For the record, let Benock back up Ravern and Lewis back up Varnado (will be curious how much Reik can contribute).
 

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Turner can help us get the ball up the floor. That is not reason for Barry to get 37 minutes and Phil to get 17.

And rarely do you need a secondary ball handler unless you are getting pressed.