$221 mil to the Palestinians? Premier Donnie should be up in arms over this maneuver rather than head count at an inauguration. Maybe an EO to forbid payments like this in the future? Maybe investigating the legality of the payment? Nope....
Why is illegal for Americans to do business with terrorists but the Former POTUS can wire cash
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Or the pardon of a traitor like bradley manning. I refuse to call him a girl. He hasn't changed where he pees from yet.
I am with you on that one too. A true travesty. When you are you going to appreciate my concern with Trump's behaviors?
last thing muslimobamapuppet did in office... send terrorists another $221M...
the payments to Iran weren't enough...
the payments to Iran weren't enough...
I'm concerned with his inability to let things go, inaguration crowd, illegal votes. I'm not as concerned with supposedly conflicts of interest, yet.
Hmmmmm, odd, I don't recall who this guy was. Did he doing anything significant in the annals of history?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means ... No, wait, I know it doesn't mean what you think it means. Manning isn't a traitor, he's just a screwed up individual who needed closer supervision by his NCOs. And by the way, Obama didn't pardon Manning, he commuted his sentence. There's a difference ... a yuge difference -- y-u-u-u-g-e , as Trump would say.
Or maybe, just maybe, people would stop relying on fly-by-night sources for their news ... If they did, they might learn something ... something like Congress appropriated the money two years in a row as humanitarian aid. I guess he could have withheld it so that everybody could go happily screaming about Obama ignoring Congress, breaking the law, etc.
Probably just forgot to do it and found a reminder when he was cleaning out his desk.
Traitor - A person who betrays country. That Ids Manning. His action deserves death by firing squad.
Where was I wrong? spelling; description of action; Manning's act? Do you have alternate facts?
Right wing fake outrage still continues over Obama while this POS president they continue to support is signing EO's(remember how you nuts used to go crazy over them but now nothing but crickets.....wonder why?) that is spending unappropriated funds for a stupid wall in which Mexico was supposed to pay, authorizing the federal agencies not to follow the law, threatening a federal takeover of an American city while repeating untruths on Twitter and other items that should go through Congress. And then this EPA shutdown is really concerning. But hey, let's just parrot bad journalism over financial aid sent overseas that did go through the appropriate process and act like the outrage should be overwhelming.
Idiots.
Idiots.
Oh goody, moron is back. Shut your hypocritical *** up *****. How many damn lies can one idiot make in one post?
He is a traitor and he should be treated as such. His release of documents caused many deaths, the results were YUGE. Typical left wing idelaogue like Obama to commute his sentence since he too, hated this country.
LMFAO. .the nrws said it was such a "small amount "..they didn't think it was worth going after...WRONG, THEY DON'T KNOW DON!!
I love Trumps behavior. ..a LOT better than the Losercrats, that STILL can't handle reality. ... yeah,congrats, you're a card carrying member! Wear that safety pin with gay pride and obvious delusion. .GOOD TIME TO AN AMERICAN. .FINALLY #MAGA
The "conflicts of interest "Nazis,need to watch what they wish/hope for..AG Sessions is gonna have a very,very HUUUUUUUGE BBQ.. and all the zombies that lapped up everything the Cuntons stood for..are going to be the "secret ingredients "..
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. Why do you think the Army didn't charge Manning with treason?
Since his revelations led to death on the battle field, afghanistan, then I will call him a traitor. Maybe we couldn't make it stick, that's another debate, but what he did got a lot of people killed who were dark complected with black hair, the informant was helping us. The taliban just went out and randomly killed those types of afghanis. Terrible result and one that should have been a lot more than what he got. He should never be allowed a sexx change operation on the backs of tax payers.
********. You're confusing Manning with Edward Snowden. We don't know whether Snowden's spying has caused any deaths, but we can be pretty sure he put people in danger. Manning's release of documents caused nothing but huge embarrassment. You lot love to keep throwing the words "traitor" and "treason" around when you don't have the first f**cking clue what they really mean. There's a reason why the Army didn't charge him with treason. Also note that I said I disagreed with commuting his sentence, despite the fact that high-ranking officers who did worse were let off the hook, including the Marine general that Obama actually did pardon. All Manning got was "time served," the conviction and the dishonorable discharge will stay with him for life unless some future president takes action -- which I doubt.
I will defer since I did confuse the two. He still should be serving more time than he did.
Traitor is a person who commits an act of treason. Treason can be any of several different acts perpetrated by the traitor. Manning did commit several different acts against his government and was charged with 22 counts, including the count of aiding the enemy which could carry a death penalty. That charged was dropped, but several counts of espionage along with other counts (19) stuck and he was found guilty and sentenced to 35 years.
Traitor was the original term that was questioned, and it has been appropriately used. You are attempting to limit the treason term to only be that found in the Constitution.
Saw something today where he has a business interest in at least one of the pipelines that he pushed through. Now, maybe he would have done that anyway, but things like this are what points to possible ethics issues and conflicts of interest influencing policy.
Every study made said the impact would be better by pipeline than transporting it by rail car or truck. Now, Warren buffet owned all the rail roads and was a leading supporter of BO, do you think there was a conflict of interest? Which do you prefer? Move by pipeline or by railroad? I know without a doubt that the RR is dirtier and the oil was going to be moved one way or another. Notice how I threw in RR was dirtier? Double entendre!
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I don't disagree with any of that, but that's not really the point either. Did he do it because it benefitted him, or did he do it because it was the best thing to do? As far as Warren Buffet is concerned ... I would prefer to get all money out of politics, which is the ONE major thing I liked about Sanders. Warren Buffet wasn't a public official, and BO didn't own a stake in the RR, so there is a difference there ... however it's still a breach of ethics if Obama made that decision strictly to benefit a major donor if it wasn't the best option.
Buffett contributed heavily to the dems and lied about his secretary, she made 250,000 and had several homes. Take up for BO but he was as two faced a politician as I have ever seen and I've seen a lot of them. BO had a stake in the RR since he took lots and lots of money from Buffet.
Where did I take up for him?
And BO didn't have a stake in the RR. Warren Buffet did. Maybe Buffett would have continued contributions regardless of that policy, and maybe he would have stopped even if the policy benefitted him. So in that regard, BO had no direct stake in the RR. Trump has a DIRECT stake in the pipeline, completely independent of any donor.
Now, we can discuss how significant of a difference that is ... but it is in fact a distinct difference. BO was at least one person removed from it ... Trump is not.