Seems like every year they have a few stand out guys from Florida. Just curious what is so appealing to a Florida kid about Louisville?
Why is Louisville so successful at recruiting in Florida?
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They have been farming Florida recruits long before CH. Half the team was from FL in BP's 1st stint.
I remember them having over 30 Florida guys one year under Schnelly. Cant remember exactly when but theyve made a living in Florida for several decades. My misguided (UL fan) step son used to tell me he'd rather have a 2 star Florida kid over a 3-4 star Ky kid in most cases. Looking back I cant really argue with him on that one even though I did back then.
The same reason Brohm would be successful recruiting Florida it's all about contacts, and the PiPE has many, many contacts down there.
UL recruits Florida well. UK has a few who make up a nice nucleus for the Cats.
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Badet, Baity, Juice, Jo Jo, McClain, Randolph and Westry
I'd say Schnelly's name carries a lot of weight down there even today. I'd say coaches trying to get players placed may see if he could help. A lot of players down there.
My guess is that they invest a disproportionate amount of slush fund cash down there. Well, in their defense, they do get good returns on most of their investments from there.
They don't waste time in ohio getting into pissing contests with Meyer n Harbaugh, or fighting the rest of the big 10 for their scraps, nor do they waste excessive amounts of time and resources trying to go toe to toe with Nick Saban for the occasional 5* in state kid. Instead they take their chances with 3 stars from UGA, FLA, Alabama.
BP knows how to go and sweep up kids who aren't getting a lot of love from the big southern schools.
God knows how much time, effort, and resources went into Elam and Harris. While CMS was battling it out with the God Father for those guys, ole sneaky P was snatching up speedsters down in SEC country.
I say it all the time. I'll take a 3 star from Florida, Texas, or UGA over a 4 star from ohio, kentucky, and most other places. Sneaky P figured that out a long time ago.
BP knows how to go and sweep up kids who aren't getting a lot of love from the big southern schools.
God knows how much time, effort, and resources went into Elam and Harris. While CMS was battling it out with the God Father for those guys, ole sneaky P was snatching up speedsters down in SEC country.
I say it all the time. I'll take a 3 star from Florida, Texas, or UGA over a 4 star from ohio, kentucky, and most other places. Sneaky P figured that out a long time ago.
Because they realize that a 3* player down there is usually as good or better than a 4* player from Ohio. Plus they have a coach that develops them and gets the most out of their talent (which is half the battle). You could have a roster stocked with 4* players but if guys like Derek Dooley or Mark Stoops are developing them they'll constantly underachieve.
Florida has athletes galore. They have no problem in producing RBs, WRs, DBs, LBs, and DEs.
On the other hand they don't produce that many QBs, even though Bridgewater and Jackson are both from South Florida.
Louisville knows how to mine that talent. UK needs to follow suit.
On the other hand they don't produce that many QBs, even though Bridgewater and Jackson are both from South Florida.
Louisville knows how to mine that talent. UK needs to follow suit.
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I cannot even read this post. UK fans for years claimed Ohio was furtile recruiting territory and that MSU was the example for UK. Now someone praises UL for going to another highly populated state to fight UF, Miami and FSU for recruits as criticism of UK's staff landing good recruits from Ohio? And is critical of the efforts applied to two kids in our own state that Bama wanted? How much effort went into Landon Young and Kash?
Wow.
Florida has the richest football talent in the nation imo. I'd love to get some boys from the Miami-dade area
Yes, in fact Eddie Gran is killing it down there. Wish we had him 3 years ago. He's a heck of an OC and a great recruiter. I'm just afraid it may be too late because Stoops will get fired.
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No offense as I still like coach stoops and hope he is here long turn. But making Gran the head coach is exactly what people complained about with hiring of stoops. He is a career assistant, never been the head man. Only difference is he has about 15 yes on Stoops. Marks resume was better as a head coach when hired than gran has now. I like both of them, but if Stoops doesn't succeed after next year, you have to go outside of the program. Don't need a Joker 2.0
No offense as I still like coach stoops and hope he is here long turn. But making Gran the head coach is exactly what people complained about with hiring of stoops. He is a career assistant, never been the head man. Only difference is he has about 15 yes on Stoops. Marks resume was better as a head coach when hired than gran has now. I like both of them, but if Stoops doesn't succeed after next year, you have to go outside of the program. Don't need a Joker 2.0
Simple. There are enough great high school players in Florida that FSU, Florida and Miami can't get all of them. You could field 10 FBS college football teams just with the players in Florida in my opinion.
I live in the Ft.Myers/Naples area and try to catch 5 or 6 high school games a year here. I marvel at the talent! We have players here no one ever heard of that would be the second coming in Ky.
Louisville only has 2 blue chippers starting on their offense.
This was a comparison to our Florida Gator offense which struggled against UMass.
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We (UF) have 6 blue chippers (4 or 5 star Rival recruits) starting on offense and Louisville only has 2 blue chippers starting on offense.
Our offensive line has a 5 star and a 4 star blue chip recruit starting on it. Louisville's offensive line has a walk on starting at center and the rest are 3 star recruits.
We have 3 sophomores starting on the O line and Louisville has 2 sophomores plus that walk on starting on the O line.
Louisville has a 2 star transfer starting at WR. We have no 2 stars starting on our offense.
This was a comparison to our Florida Gator offense which struggled against UMass.
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We (UF) have 6 blue chippers (4 or 5 star Rival recruits) starting on offense and Louisville only has 2 blue chippers starting on offense.
Our offensive line has a 5 star and a 4 star blue chip recruit starting on it. Louisville's offensive line has a walk on starting at center and the rest are 3 star recruits.
We have 3 sophomores starting on the O line and Louisville has 2 sophomores plus that walk on starting on the O line.
Louisville has a 2 star transfer starting at WR. We have no 2 stars starting on our offense.
Well the question was asked.
Ohio is fertile ground. If you're OSU, MSU, UM, and PSU getting the pick of the litter. Not if your UK fighting Cinci, IU, and the rest of the big 10 for left overs.
I'm more than pleased with Kash and Landon, but those two are the exception and not rule.
Bobby P probably pursued Landon, Kash, Elam, and Harris, but he didn't lose any sleep over them, not when he can go down to the southern territories and grab three star athletes and speedsters who would be 4 maybe even 5 star players and all state in Kentucky.
the proof is in the pudding. Sneaky P and his Florida, UGA, Alabama recruits are taking the football world by storm again and are lead by a heisman contender who will be one of the first QBs taken when he goes. And CMS with his recruits are scratching their heads after a loss to a mid major.
UL doesn't recruit Florida well. They get 1 or 2 decent recruits. The rest are transfers from schools that kicked those players off the team. Take away the transfers and Jackson and UL might not win 3 games this year.
The thing UL does well is they make the most of what they have. When they get a star QB he ends up being one of the best in teh game. UK has gotten 2 super star QBs in the same time UL has got 1. The difference is with UK one of those star QBs bombed and left. The other 3 years later we still aren't sure about. UL doesn't waste talent the way we have. I promise you if you give Petrino a Boom Williams we would be talking about him competing for the Heisman. Not wondering why he's only getting 8 or 9 carries.
The problem is that while Stoops has been the best recruiter UK has ever had he's also the worst developer of talent that UK has ever had. I honestly believe that Bill Curry would win 7 games this year with the talent we have. Stoops will probably only win 3 or 4.
The thing UL does well is they make the most of what they have. When they get a star QB he ends up being one of the best in teh game. UK has gotten 2 super star QBs in the same time UL has got 1. The difference is with UK one of those star QBs bombed and left. The other 3 years later we still aren't sure about. UL doesn't waste talent the way we have. I promise you if you give Petrino a Boom Williams we would be talking about him competing for the Heisman. Not wondering why he's only getting 8 or 9 carries.
The problem is that while Stoops has been the best recruiter UK has ever had he's also the worst developer of talent that UK has ever had. I honestly believe that Bill Curry would win 7 games this year with the talent we have. Stoops will probably only win 3 or 4.
Because UL has been better at developing talent than UK. Switch rosters with UK and don't you think Petrino would have more success with our roster than Stoops has so far? You think Damien Harris would be looking as good at UK as he does at Bama thus far? My guess is he'd be exactly as good as he was the day he stepped onto the practice field at UK for the first time. Since Brooks, we have been hugely inconsistent in developing players. Someone needs to figure out why and make the necessary changes. Only at UK do upperclassmen not get better.
Because they win. I don't know why anyone is comparing us to them. They have won 2 BCS Bowl games in the last 15 years. They have had multiple 10 win seasons in the last 15 years. They are a really good program. We have won 8 games one time in 15 years. The best bowl game we have ever been to is the same bowl game they went to last year in a rebuilding year.
I actually agree with both of you. While Gran definitely isn't my first choice by any means, I really believe he'd be about the best we could get.
The broader, more significant question for me is how is that UK's recruiting classes generally rank about Louisville's, we have much better facility's, UK is the state's flagship university; we have broader statewide fan support than Louisville, yet, for most of the last 15 years, Louisville has generally been the better program? I know we play in the SEC and Louisville doesn't. However, we are nowhere close to being competitive with Louisville right now nor have we have been for the last 5 years despite getting equal to or better talent than Louisville.