Hes completely lowered the standards for what kentucky basketball is and will be in the future, not only that but the recruiting has us set up to buy teams every year instead of building a program, and we dont even have anyone signed up for us next year either!!
Why should he get a third year
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The answer to your question lies in whether you are asking rhetorically. I think most fans are frustrated and want it to be over now, but there are also reasons why he should and will get a third year.
yes but its not looking up is my point, what will next seasom have that this doesnt, itll just get worse
He overachieved season 1, underachieved season 2, season 3 will be the deciding factor. I’m not confident, but willing to give him a third as of now
I understand what you’re saying but he will get a third year outside of a catastrophic finish. I’m talking lose most of the remaining games, miss the tournament, and extreme unprofessional behavior from Pope —- that kind of thing. As much as people will compare to BCG record similarity, the situation is very different.
well i totally get he will be back, i just dont know why
prob a money thing
What would be one reason?
His first year was, by Kentucky standards in a vacuum, average. When considering the conditions surrounding that season — above average. He surpassed preseason expectations with the first team. Unless the second season is an unmitigated disaster of historic proportions, he will be permitted a third year to fight for his professional life.
right, which is why you think hed get a stokes or collins to get some juice if next year is a do or die year ya know
From what we know, both of those guys have a factor related to them that lies outside of his control. Clearly he wants/wanted one or both of those guys. We can debate his recruiting acumen ad nauseum but these have directly been linked to JMI issues.
He’s gonna have to get it done with what he can get next year. Period.
Ok. But he has embarrassed the brand.
He had former greats calling him out public ally. Guys that have never done that.
Announcers calling us out for being out worked.
His teams just quit.
He built up some good will last season because he just such a breath of fresh air. But the signs were there that he was lost.
Still, the embarrassment he put on the floor in MSG and Bridgestone trump any good will he built up.
How has he "completely lowered the standards of Kentucky Basketball" when he went farther in his 1st season than Cal since 2018 LMAO? I am not saying he should or shouldn't, but your Hyperbole is total nonsense lol
Because we can't be THAT crazy. He deserves a 3rd year, based on last years success at least. We may not like it and it may test our resolve but he should get a third year. Kentucky has to practice diligence. Otherwise who on earth would come here after him?
It has nothing to do with Standards. You don’t fire any coach for one bad season. That’s just ridiculous.
Yea when gettin blown out by Tennessee in the tournament is over achieving you know we’re ******
You’re preaching to the choir. I took the question literally and gave an honest answer. I think we both know he will get a third year. Doesn’t mean you agree with it, but it’s true
I’d say Pope should only get a 3rd year is if he brings in Stokes. Can’t bring in a game-changing player? Step down at the end of the season. Next year will be possibly worse than this year if he can’t bring in an elite prospect. And he sure as heck won’t have $20 million to work with this offseason.
He’s starting to give me body language like he don’t even believe he can do this anymore.
One reason is if you fire him after two years then you are going to have a very hard time getting a high profile coach to come here knowing how short the leash is.
Propositions like this are silly, because you’re thinking from the perspective of a fan. If you’re talking about the coach stepping down, your hypothetical should be from the standpoint of the coach.
- Most coaches think there are answers to questions and they will figure it out.
- Most coaches are going to want more money, not less money.
- Most coaches that are likely to lose a major job like Kentucky know that they are going to be falling several rungs down the ladder to a smaller school with less money and resources.
You can say all you want that he will do this or that for “legacy” or “the school” or blah blah blah —- legacy won’t buy a new home when I have to move and it won’t cover my salary decrease that would occur within a few short months.
Complete pipe dream.
If we all know he will, I guess I don’t see the point of it. He will be here unless things get historically awful.
If he had good recruits coming in I could see a year 3, but having him back with an even worse team is insanity.
Like what? I can see an up and coming coach at a small school maybe not care but the next coach would have to be an absolute home run hire.
The current season is pretty close to an unmitigated disaster
I completely agree. We are all angry but I think you move too fast here and you do more harm than good. Another year allows more of these coaches to build a resume — many of us agree that Oats, May, Golden are unlikely at best. I’d love Pearl but it isn’t certain he’d unretire and compete against his own son in conference. Then, you’re probably looking at that next tier of coaches, many of which have some proving to do. What if Tommy Lloyd makes an elite eight and loses a heartbreaker and follows up next year with another really good season? Now, you’ve got a guy you can go all in on. Or…say Byington or McCollom make a deep run in the tournament and have good follow up seasons. Those become names the fanbase can rally around. Do this too early and 1.) the perception of job security becomes more damaged in the view of outsiders, 2.) we end up having to make more of a gamble on the hire.
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BCG's 2 year record may be better than Pope's if we do not see some major improvement. And season 3 is already looking like a disaster.
I really do feel where you’re coming from, but a lot would have to go south from here.
Billy Clyde says bye and Cal says Hello.
Bruce Pearl would come out of retirement. He's already alluded he wanted to be here.
Man at this point I think you’re the only one that defends this absolute nonsense going on. What is it that you are defending? What trait has Pope shown you as coach that you like?
You don't bother reading if you think that. He was not tge guy I wanted. But deciding to fire a guy in Jan of year two is nonsense and counterproductive to the program. You can spout about Kentucky standards, but potential coaches will not give a rats *** about your standards. They will see a guy that went to the S16 year one and then tge fruitcakes wanted him fired halfway into year two. Maybe that will help you understand why the top targets for the job continually tell UK to **** off
yes but cals failures were covered up by stars that were lined up for the next year pope has nothing to look forward to
Na I’m a Kentucky fan not a fruit cake and that’s why he needs to be fired because he’s acting like a fruit cake. Like I said tho one more year of embarrassment isn’t that big a deal in the long run.
and top targets? Scott drew? Mitches church buddy? Nobody said **** off there’s plenty of coaches that will come here if Kentucky wasn’t ran by fruitcakes.
yea give Pope another year. He better have a preseason pep rally next year. I guess that’s why we are having such an embarrassing season so far.
