Why the silence on the Left?

atlkvb

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to the very honest question I asked in WVPATX's thread called "not very hard, but I have figured Trump out"?

Specifically I re-posted an outline of Trump's minority outreach to combat chronically poor economic conditions and a lack of employment opportunities in America's inner cities. The Left has been making promises to fix these seemingly intractable social and economic problems for the past 50 years through massive income redistribution schemes and handouts from social programs, yet the poverty and joblessness remains stagnant.

So Trump is set to roll out a new approach without Big Government, empowering the use of human capital and the financial capital of our free market, free enterprise system to create tangible results for Blacks who have been promised as much from the Left for half a century.

I asked for the Left's alternatives to Trump's initiative since most of you on the Left suggest Trump is stupid so his outreach to pry these traditionally Democrat voters away from the Left will fail.

Yet none of you has produced the Left's alternative to Trump's outreach. How will you counter this, and what are your ideas that are either better which will finally produce results or at least keep Blacks from voting Republican instead of sticking with the Democrat Left?

If you don't answer, I'll assume you agree Trump's plans are superior and can't be challenged, or you are simply admitting defeat of your failed Leftist ideology?
 
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atlkvb

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If this is even a smidgen successful it will turn the parties on their heads.

If I were on the Left and valued those voters, I'd sure be trying to develop a counter strategy. I'd honestly like to see what it would be so I asked?

Crickets.
 

atlkvb

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If this is even a smidgen successful it will turn the parties on their heads.


It will work because it unleashes the power of self sufficiency, earning, owning, and gaining financial relevance in a system Blacks have been convinced by the Left they are either unwanted in or systematically restricted from by rich White people because of their (Black) race.

This initiative throws that entire lie from the Left right back into their face, because they have no response for it, and no answer in their own failed ideology to defeat it. (look at the silence from Leftists on this board)

So stand back and watch Black folks wake up and run away from the economically bankrupt Democrat party as fast as they can. I can't wait to see the Left's desperation once they see their precious Democrat Black voting block disintegrate because of Trump.

Must see PTV (political TV)
 
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It will work because it unleashes the power of self sufficiency, earning, owning, and gaining financial relevance in a system Blacks have been convinced by the Left....

I hope and pray you're right. I have seen too many brainwashed.
 

atlkvb

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I hope and pray you're right. I have seen too many brainwashed.

The problem will be overcoming years of that from the Left. But just like Trump, Blacks are also severely underestimated by the Left.

Just show 'em the way, they'll respond.
 

D. Denzil Finney

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to the very honest question I asked in WVPATX's thread called "not very hard, but I have figured Trump out"?

Specifically I re-posted an outline of Trump's minority outreach to combat chronically poor economic conditions and a lack of employment opportunities in America's inner cities. The Left has been making promises to fix these seemingly intractable social and economic problems for the past 50 years through massive income redistribution schemes and handouts from social programs, yet the poverty and joblessness remains stagnant.

So Trump is set to roll out a new approach without Big Government, empowering the use of human capital and the financial capital of our free market, free enterprise system to create tangible results for Blacks who have been promised as much from the Left for half a century.

I asked for the Left's alternatives to Trump's initiative since most of you on the Left suggest Trump is stupid so his outreach to pry these traditionally Democrat voters away from the Left will fail.

Yet none of you has produced the Left's alternative to Trump's outreach. How will you counter this, and what are your ideas that are either better which will finally produce results or at least keep Blacks from voting Republican instead of sticking with the Democrat Left?

If you don't answer, I'll assume you agree Trump's plans are superior and can't be challenged, or you are simply admitting defeat of your failed Leftist ideology?

Don't assume anything on my part -- there is a third altenative called "I don't give a **** anymore". This subject has been cussed and discussed as you pointed out for the past 50 years. Thirty five of those years had supplemental jobs created by WAR. The Viet Nam debacle and the two Iraqui wars have provided massive input to the workforce; all from volunteers. I hope the POTUS plan works, but until it does, I'm from Missouri. "Show Me"
 

atlkvb

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Don't assume anything on my part -- there is a third altenative called "I don't give a **** anymore". This subject has been cussed and discussed as you pointed out for the past 50 years. Thirty five of those years had supplemental jobs created by WAR. The Viet Nam debacle and the two Iraqui wars have provided massive input to the workforce; all from volunteers. I hope the POTUS plan works, but until it does, I'm from Missouri. "Show Me"

That's cool. Just understand the political ramifications once it does.(it will)

You won't be calling Trump stupid anymore, although many on the Left will get even more pissed at him for stealing their formerly reliable voters.
 
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to the very honest question I asked in WVPATX's thread called "not very hard, but I have figured Trump out"?

Specifically I re-posted an outline of Trump's minority outreach to combat chronically poor economic conditions and a lack of employment opportunities in America's inner cities. The Left has been making promises to fix these seemingly intractable social and economic problems for the past 50 years through massive income redistribution schemes and handouts from social programs, yet the poverty and joblessness remains stagnant.

So Trump is set to roll out a new approach without Big Government, empowering the use of human capital and the financial capital of our free market, free enterprise system to create tangible results for Blacks who have been promised as much from the Left for half a century.

I asked for the Left's alternatives to Trump's initiative since most of you on the Left suggest Trump is stupid so his outreach to pry these traditionally Democrat voters away from the Left will fail.

Yet none of you has produced the Left's alternative to Trump's outreach. How will you counter this, and what are your ideas that are either better which will finally produce results or at least keep Blacks from voting Republican instead of sticking with the Democrat Left?

If you don't answer, I'll assume you agree Trump's plans are superior and can't be challenged, or you are simply admitting defeat of your failed Leftist ideology?

Where is it?
 

WVMade

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to the very honest question I asked in WVPATX's thread called "not very hard, but I have figured Trump out"?

Specifically I re-posted an outline of Trump's minority outreach to combat chronically poor economic conditions and a lack of employment opportunities in America's inner cities. The Left has been making promises to fix these seemingly intractable social and economic problems for the past 50 years through massive income redistribution schemes and handouts from social programs, yet the poverty and joblessness remains stagnant.

So Trump is set to roll out a new approach without Big Government, empowering the use of human capital and the financial capital of our free market, free enterprise system to create tangible results for Blacks who have been promised as much from the Left for half a century.

I asked for the Left's alternatives to Trump's initiative since most of you on the Left suggest Trump is stupid so his outreach to pry these traditionally Democrat voters away from the Left will fail.

Yet none of you has produced the Left's alternative to Trump's outreach. How will you counter this, and what are your ideas that are either better which will finally produce results or at least keep Blacks from voting Republican instead of sticking with the Democrat Left?

If you don't answer, I'll assume you agree Trump's plans are superior and can't be challenged, or you are simply admitting defeat of your failed Leftist ideology?

When you label people as "The Left", you're not going to get a response from many. People like you can't get passed the notion that we're all esssentially on the same side and calling Trump out for his many childish, ignorant, dangerous decisions has nothing to do with party. Or Hillary. Or Bill. Or Obama. You can't get that through your thick skulls. That and the fact that you make so many off the wall, asinine comments (comparing intel on Bin Laden to EPA research), why bother?
 
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When you label people as "The Left", you're not going to get a response from many. People like you can't get passed the notion that we're all esssentially on the same side and calling Trump out for his many childish, ignorant, dangerous decisions has nothing to do with party. Or Hillary. Or Bill. Or Obama. You can't get that through your thick skulls. That and the fact that you make so many of the wall, asinine comments (comparing intel on Bin Laden to EPA research), why bother?

You nailed it. Heck I voted for H.W., George W twice, and Mitt in 12. I don't hate all things republican by any stretch. Just fear Trump
 

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That's cool. Just understand the political ramifications once it does.(it will)

You won't be calling Trump stupid anymore, although many on the Left will get even more pissed at him for stealing their formerly reliable voters.

Excuse me! please show me where I said Trump was Stupid. I think he is egostical, thin skinned and sometimes talks when he should be listening but one thing he is not is stupid.
 

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When you label people as "The Left", you're not going to get a response from many. People like you can't get passed the notion that we're all esssentially on the same side and calling Trump out for his many childish, ignorant, dangerous decisions has nothing to do with party. Or Hillary. Or Bill. Or Obama. You can't get that through your thick skulls. That and the fact that you make so many off the wall, asinine comments (comparing intel on Bin Laden to EPA research), why bother?
When you label people as "The Left"

People like you

your thick skulls
 

atlkvb

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We would need two days to discuss this topic but if he can bring jobs, hope, and better education to our inner cities and Appalachia, I am all for it. since LBJ, we have failed in these areas

Yes, agreed. After the expenditure of billions upon billions of the nation's treasury and nothing but failure to show for it, it's not an easy nut to crack.The point of my post was to suggest the Left's model to fix it indeed has not worked, can't work, and won't ever work. They literally have nothing else to offer.

Trump is coming in with a new paradigm based on an entirely different concept. Trust of the people. This is something the Left's approach does not do because it is not designed to solve the problem, only to increase the Left's control and power by keeping poor people dependent on the Left. This is why they remain steeped in endless poverty.

It's also why I suggested you will not see the Left get anywhere near this. 1) They can't. 2) They don't want the problem solved. 3) Because it won't keep them in power. 4) Which is why they will fight it. 5) Which is why they will loose.

It's a nice dodge to suggest the reason why Trump's opponents on this board have not offered alternatives or not responded to this challenge is because it's just about me or how "asinine" I am. That's cool.

That doesn't really bother me, but it does serve as proof of the Left's disability or spasticity to offer a viable answer to Trump's challenge.(not mine) I am excited over this outreach both for our inner cities and Appalachia who for far too long have been trapped in stifling poverty by failed Leftist ideology which only makes excuses for its failure or blames others while ignoring these folk's legitimate desires to escape the clutches of their gut wrenching poverty and lack of education in exchange for a chance at a better Life.

The Left wants to open up our boarders & allow any Foreign national to walk into America in search of a better Life, and they bend over backwards helping them gain access to our public assistance directed by the Left to access that chance...thus assuring the Left's access to their votes.

However our own American citizens in both our inner cities and Appalachia are "forgotten" and allowed to languish in debilitating substandard living conditions while excuses are made against "the rich" or "White people" or Conservatives who are called horrible names like "racists" who do not want to see these people rise up from their economic destitution.

Trump is going to fix this, and he has a plan to show these American citizens that they are not only capable of rising above poverty, but this country & us on the Right welcomes them to do so. When we get credit for finally helping them climb above their once dire economic circumstances, the Left will still call us names or complain and even predict our ultimate failure, but their whining will simply be ignored because nothing succeeds like success.

The Left goes away with it's failed ideology, and everyone else lives happily ever after.