What’s the reason for their decision? Never understood politics much but my quess because they want to relie on the government for everything including working for them. Is that somewhat true?
Why would someone vote democratic
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one person's opinion...in this case because they weren't Republican..
The Republicans had total control of the government during the past 2 years and did not accomplish what they said they would...prices went up, we started a war, and a lot of people just don't like Trump.
I would say it boils down to individualism vs collectivism. The right believes each person is responsible for their own choices, decisions, repercussions, success, failure etc. They believe everyone is capable of greatness but it’s hard work and many aren’t willing to do it. They believe this country allows that opportunity for EVERYONE. They believe that personal development is the responsibility of the person or family unit, not the taxpayers or government. The left is the opposite of that. They believe everyone deserves everything no matter if they’ve earned it or not. They also have no problem confiscating or taking “wealth” that people EARN and giving it to those that have not. They’re redistribution, social warriors that contribute minimally. Ultimately the government runs on taxes, go search who’s paying the taxes and vote accordingly. Liberals mean well, but they have zero practical understanding of basic economics or human nature. Everything is “feel”, this is why they’re hyper emotional and sensitive. They lack pragmatic reasoning.
This type of black or white, us vs them, complete lack of nuance is infantile and embarrassing.
Agreed with yosh- I don't hate your framing of individual vs. collective, regardless of how reductive it is, but ya certainly put a spin on it.
Republicans: Think thats whats best for the individual is best for the collective
Liberals: Think whats best for the collective is best for the individual
Massive welfare enrollment, open borders, releasing violent criminals, graduating illiterate kids, promoting drug abuse and homelessness, etc isn’t good for anyone. It’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. Even worse is people like you have been convinced by a tenured, privileged professor that this is all because of some inherent skin privilege and not horrible choices. I don’t care to debate it with you, we will never agree, but I was answering OP.
Not only did they not accomplish what they said they would, Trump did the opposite of what he campaigned on. No new wars turned into War with Iran.
Personally, i think he miscalculated. He had a legitimate excuse to go after Maduro. Venezuela put up such little opposition, Trump thought he could do the same thing with Iran. He thought a decapitation strike would be quick and he could get in and out like Venezuela. He thought the people of Iran would rise up, but they did not. We destroyed their military and won the conventional war. But Trump misjudged Irans willingness to take pain. Iran doesn't care if they are losing, they know America doesn't have the appetite to put troops on the ground over there.
That simple miscalculation, after riding the Venezuela high, doomed the rest of his policy successes.
The voters spoke loud and clear, America does not want War. It's that simple in my mind.
No war, and the economy is on fire right now. People would tolerate Trumps antics if their wallets are full. But they are not, and so they won't. He is in danger of getting impeached, with help of Republican votes, if he doesn't read the room correctly.
He’s done some good stuff but he lied about war and that ultimately cost them. He has no one to blame but himself. No one cares about Iran.
Hey man, we could do this all day- all of this propaganda you just regurgitated? It all just got completely and utterly rejected by the American People. All of the unprecedented, evil, chaotic, and AWFUL stuff you handwaved, thought was ok, and thought had legitimate reason for, was HATED by the American People. Not the left- the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
You should rethink some things. You disagreed with a few of what the Trump Admin did these past 2 years. But not nearly enough. From what you post, you're about as maga as it gets. And that movement is over.
Find some new propaganda and talking points, because all of those silly little ridiculous made up grievances are not shared by the People of America.
You’re as woke as it gets. Did you ever ask your tenured minority professor how he successfully navigated the Jim Crow laws and privileges to become successful? That’s truly inspiring. Do you believe he earned that position or was given it because of his positions? Either way you’ll prove my point that you have no clue what you’re talking about and never do. Either the system is fair and just and based on merit or the academic system is captured by virtue signaling zealots. Which one?
You people are such morons.
Presumably you support the party whose leader was promising $5000 checks to everyone if his party won the election?
Do you have any self-awareness at all? Also, one of the few demographics Republicans won were high school educated whites. Those with some college, bachelor degrees and beyond supported Dems by double-digit margins.
The Repub party is basically the uneducated white people identity party in the aftermath of Tuesday night. And it's leader won't keep promising them free stuff and favorable treatment from the government.
Happy to jump back into our good faith convo anytime! This doesn't seem like the appropriate time, as you seem upset/are attacking me based on a conversation that was measured and honest.
Anyways, I'd suggest getting different news sources. You've really dug yourself into quite an echo chamber/silo and it isn't shared by the regular/everyday American People like you thought.
Why would anyone who is not locked in the Fox News and deranged radical far right social media bubble even consider voting for trump?
You can’t answer it because it ruins the grievance nonsense. Just like you absolutely must support reparations like you do, otherwise your positions fold. Your positions need a boogie man, that professor tapped that tiny brain of yours and here we are.
OP, another distinction is these folks believe all white people owe all black people in America money. Specifically this liberal.
You mean like the guy with a masters degree telling everyone about white privelege and owing reparations. Got it! Very self aware.
Only thing I'd say is this- The left was so insufferable and annoying for a decade that enough people who AREN'T locked into FoxNews still voted Trump for a 3rd time and got him elected again in 2024.
Luckily, the American People learned QUICK how awful a truly Far Right Extremist/Fascist Government is, and the midterms proved it.
He has many policies that people support.
I think the people spoke in that they want Republicans and Democrats to meet in the middle on immigration. We need sensible immigration. No open borders, but sensible policy. The parties are giving the extreme, when the people want moderation.
I think it would be a big mistake for Democrats to read this as a mandate for their socialist policies. I still think America is a Capitalist country to the core and the voters will keep correcting the Government until they get it right.
In short they like his capitalist policies. But he broke his promise to the people and the people punished him for that.
You want to point out the last time Dems won in Texas and SC? Those are fairly unprecedented.
Unless you storm the Capitol. Then you are not responsible for your own choices, decisions, repercussions.
Speaking of the boogie man — tell us more about the migrant caravans, trans people, Muslims, socialists...
One thing is for sure, there's more than just politics that you don't understand. Here's a start, Women's right to control their body. That shouldn't be political but the republicans have made it political by having the government restrict women's rights.
Literally THE party of boogie men accusing others of it, is the height hypocrisy
I certainly agree 100% about the war and it's impact on prices. The only thing I disagree with democrats about is their claim that Iran was largely peaceful, not a threat, and had stopped developing nuclear weapons when Obama was president. IMO that's quite naive or looking through blue glasses.
I disagree that republicans failed on affordability aside from the war but I agree that voters believe they did. I'm old enough to remember when inflation took off under Biden. Labor has the upper hand and both unions and non union workers went on strike and won huge wage concessions. Port workers, UAW, Teamsters, UPS drivers, Nurses... You name it. Like it or not we're paying for that in higher prices and there's nobody from either party who is going to make that go away.
I'm amazed at some democrat logic. They want higher wages but don't think that also means higher prices. They hate tariffs because they see that as a tax that's passed through to consumers. They also support higher taxes on corporations that think those wouldn't be passed onto consumers.
The biggest affordability issues are housing, healthcare, and groceries. Thos prices have been going up long before Trump took office. I think voters are blaming the incumbents but the problem was just as bad under democrats. To the best of my knowledge they have no solutions except redistribution which isn't cost reduction.
Lower taxes, controlled border, smaller government
Republicans represent big business and the billionaire class
Democrats represent the average person
Republicans own the mainstream media news networks allowing unfettered access to propagandize fear into the average person to convince them to vote against their own interests
Democrat policies and stances require nuance, making them vulnerable to misrepresentation via sound bites and also making simple Republican concepts (albeit bad for the average person) easier to digest for the average American (this is why republicans poll well with poorly educated whites)
Trump 2.0 showed that when republicans go too far it becomes fascism and domestic terrorism against the citizenry, and they did such a good job of illustrating this that forever red states such as Texas, South Carolina, and Kansas said enough is enough
Democrats represent the average person
Republicans own the mainstream media news networks allowing unfettered access to propagandize fear into the average person to convince them to vote against their own interests
Democrat policies and stances require nuance, making them vulnerable to misrepresentation via sound bites and also making simple Republican concepts (albeit bad for the average person) easier to digest for the average American (this is why republicans poll well with poorly educated whites)
Trump 2.0 showed that when republicans go too far it becomes fascism and domestic terrorism against the citizenry, and they did such a good job of illustrating this that forever red states such as Texas, South Carolina, and Kansas said enough is enough
You're in luck. Democrats have been in charge for 12 of the past 18 years. Thie dominant win in the senate pretty much assures democrat control for at least 6 more years.
Here's what we can look forward to. We'll have Investigations and impeachment for 2 years. After that democrats will have a free run. Billionaires (people earning > $400k) will get a tax increase. Immigrants will receive amnesty and a path to citizenship. Healthcare and home purchase subsidies will increase. Work requirements will be eliminated. Tariffs will be lifted The federal deficit will continue out of control. Solvency for SS & Medicare won't be addressed except to possibly eliminate benefits for the wealthy. I won't go as far as to predict eliminating the electoral college, packing the court, and making D.C. a state but a lot of dems will push for it. Hillary & Kamala already support thoe things.
debt, wars, social unrest due to authoritarian policies.
Tell us again about how the BBB provided new tax cuts for billionaires. While you're at it tell us about how billionaires benefitted from no tax on tips, OT, and SS.
2 days later and the fear mongering is in full affect- thank you for this!
Fear mongering? I'll put you on record as saying a democrat president & congress in 2029:
1) Won't push for amnesty/path to citizenship
2) Won't push for more taxes on billionaires (> $400k)
3) Won't eliminate tariffs
4) Won't increase healthcare subsidies
5) Will reduce the deficit and solve SS/Medicare solvency without higher taxes or reduced benefits
What fairytale land do you live in?
P.S. Jeffries already said he wants to eliminate work requirements and extend covid era enhanced subsidies. Of course I'm just fear mongering.
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I flipped on Fox News this morning while getting ready and they were talking about a scary caravan heading up from Central America. I'm not kidding. Any moment now we will be hearing their concerns about the debt and the deficit.
It's hilarious that you could say "smaller government" and be serious.
Tell us how the boots of billionaires taste when you get done polishing them with your tongue.
Many who knew little of his russia entanglements, bankruptcies, ties to Roy Cohn and character thought he was a good business man. His talent is as a grifter with the Roy Cohn MO.
All true..... Half of the left looks at the government as a wet nurse, and the other half just wants to exploit the biggest mark on the planet.
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