Will Brooks return?

[ruppsrunt1]

Well--straight from those who started the marxist organization--in their words;

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

rr

 

[Rockfly78]

They brought the politics into it.

It was unfortunate but it didn’t stop me from enjoying the games. It’s just ball. I was over it by the end of the day.

 

[Rockfly78]

That’s fair. I don’t know why it would take 4 years for a taller and faster player to be a good defender over shorter, smaller player

Defense also requires knowing how they offensive player will hurt you the most. If it’s by the 3 pointer, you take away the 3. If it’s by driving it’s by taking away the drive

I will take a senior brooks over most of our unproven burger boys. He’s given us 10 pts a game for two years. You don’t want another year of that and potentially/probably a little more?

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

Truth

I’m not talking about the group. The group was founded because of the initial movement. One can be BLM supporter without supporting the group of the same name. There is a distinction between the two.

Why doesn’t Stoops get the same grief Cal does in regards to the situation? Stoops supports his players in this as well. Cal is a bad guy for supporting his players but Stoops gets a pass? Why is that? Maybe because one has an R and the other has a D beside their name? Nah. That couldn’t be it.

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

Well--straight from those who started the marxist organization--in their words;

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

rr

Being a “trained Marxist” doesn’t make it a Marxist movement.

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

Well--straight from those who started the marxist organization--in their words;

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

rr

Patrice Cullors who now owns 4 mansions that she bought with the funds donated by woke corporations.

 

[HydroCat]

Being a “trained Marxist” doesn’t make it a Marxist movement.

BLM's officers and founders stated the organization's goal.

https://fee.org/articles/black-live...xist-aim-that-goes-back-a-century-and-a-half/

 

[JAC71]

I’m not talking about the group. The group was founded because of the initial movement. One can be BLM supporter without supporting the group of the same name. There is a distinction between the two.

Why doesn’t Stoops get the same grief Cal does in regards to the situation? Stoops supports his players in this as well. Cal is a bad guy for supporting his players but Stoops gets a pass? Why is that? Maybe because one has an R and the other has a D beside their name? Nah. That couldn’t be it.

Never understood that myself regarding Stoops getting the same treatment, he was in the parade with the team supporting the same causes as the basketball team but barely heard or read anything.

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

I’m not talking about the group. The group was founded because of the initial movement. One can be BLM supporter without supporting the group of the same name. There is a distinction between the two.

Why doesn’t Stoops get the same grief Cal does in regards to the situation? Stoops supports his players in this as well. Cal is a bad guy for supporting his players but Stoops gets a pass? Why is that? Maybe because one has an R and the other has a D beside their name? Nah. That couldn’t be it.

If there's a distinction, I'm not seeing it in the media reports OR by anyone who kneels or participates.

And it's funny how you concede the point by changing the subject with your 'whataboutism' vis-a-vis coach Stoops.

 

[Cbbcrazy2]

The test the waters thing surprised me, I was thinking he would enter the portal and head home to Indiana. Now I think he will be back and this may end in the better of the two entering the portal. I think you know who I am referring to and in the end we lose as he is much better imo.

 

[Ky_Bred_Cat]

I believe Brooks best option, other than the NBA G-league (his only NBA option), is to come back to UK. I think he also knows he's not a fan favorite so he could try the portal. If he comes back, he is 5 star that had 1AD aspirations coming in and Cal will bring down the program if that's what it takes trying to get the kid a spot in the NBA.

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

BLM's officers and founders stated the organization's goal.

https://fee.org/articles/black-live...xist-aim-that-goes-back-a-century-and-a-half/

Fee.org (a self described conservative think tank) writes essentially an opinion piece based on its interpretation of the groups website and that is the end all be all about the group? Let me be clear. I do not support the BLM group. I think the group is a joke and is taking advantage of the actual movement which I do support. However, using the group as a justification to attack anyone that dares support the movement (including the UK basketball team) is also a problem. Attacking anyone including Brooks and the basketball team because they dare share an opinion that is different than yours is just as bad and just as dangerous as the BLM group.

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

If there's a distinction, I'm not seeing it in the media reports OR by anyone who kneels or participates.

And it's funny how you concede the point by changing the subject with your 'whataboutism' vis-a-vis coach Stoops.

It’s not whataboutism. I’m legit curious as to why Stoops gets a pass for the same thing Cal is crucified for. I want to know what justification people have for doing that.

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

It’s not whataboutism. I’m legit curious as to why Stoops gets a pass for the same thing Cal is crucified for. I want to know what justification people have for doing that.

Who is giving Stoops a pass? And how do you know people are giving him a pass? What sort of action constitutes 'giving him a pass?' Who decides what that means? You?

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

Who is giving Stoops a pass? And how do you know people are giving him a pass? What sort of action constitutes 'giving him a pass?' Who decides what that means? You?

It’s pretty damn obvious. All you have to do is look here. Posts mentioning Cal and the players kneeling show up almost daily. There is rarely if anything posted about Stoops marching with his team. That’s a pretty damn good indicator of Stoops not being held to the same criticism as Cal by the fan base and getting a pass. If people were upset about it, it would be talked about here like it is for Cal. If you can’t see and recognize that, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

It’s pretty damn obvious. All you have to do is look here. Posts mentioning Cal and the players kneeling show up almost daily. There is rarely if anything posted about Stoops marching with his team. That’s a pretty damn good indicator of Stoops not being held to the same criticism as Cal by the fan base and getting a pass. If people were upset about it, it would be talked about here like it is for Cal. If you can’t see and recognize that, I don’t know what to tell you.

This isn't the football forum. LOL

Look, you're wrong. Lots of people called out Stoops, they did it in the political forum. A very basic search will prove that.

Now back to the SUBJECT AT HAND. Do you have zero concerns about the $61 million missing from BLM's coffers? You know, the money that was donated by woke corporations for needy communities and was never used for that, but instead went into the pockets of the leaders of the 'organization?'

 

[Snarks]

I hope not.

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

This isn't the football forum. LOL

Look, you're wrong. Lots of people called out Stoops, they did it in the political forum. A very basic search will prove that.

Now back to the SUBJECT AT HAND. Do you have zero concerns about the $61 million missing from BLM's coffers? You know, the money that was donated by woke corporations for needy communities and was never used for that, but instead went into the pockets of the leaders of the 'organization?'

Again I say, Cal continues to get crucified for something that happened 2 years ago. Stoops might have gotten a little grief at the time it happened but he no longer continues to get it like Cal does. All the posts prove that regardless of forum.

As I said before, I don’t support the BLM group. I support the movement. There is a big difference. If the executives Of BLM took the donations(and it looks like some did), then they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It’s a pretty simple concept. That isn’t the subject at hand though. The subject at hand is what this entire thread is about and that’s Keion Brooks. I simply responded to a ridiculous post that stated Brooks wasn’t a good representative of the University simply because he dare have a different view about kneeling than many members of the fan base.

 

[ruppsrunt1]

Why not--

"All Lives Matter"---red, yellow, white, black, mixed, albino, etc?

rr

 

[TheDude73]

Huh. I noticed you didn't even bother to show up to scold your Cal slurping brethren in the Dontaie Allen-bashing thread. What a hypocrite.

I haven't looked in that thread, and I don't have any "Cal slurpen brethren".

The problem is, though, aside from 2-3 mouthy Cal "slurpers", most of the ****** talk on this forum has been from the Cal haters. Those of us in the middle just get exhausted seeing name calling all over the place - the majority of which comes from your "side".

This is essentially all we see now, in a simple nutshell:

Side 1: I hate the guy.
Side 2: I like the guy.

Side 1: You're an idiot.
Side 2: No, you are.

Side 1: Yeah, well yo momma.
Side 2: You know nothing.

Middle "Side": Good lord people, take a break!

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.


(definition of "middle" are those of us that recognize Cal's failures and needs to adapt - QUICKLY, but have a little more patience in the proverbial "tank" before hopping on a "side")

 

[kuhlkat]

Well, the organization, BLM, is absolutely, 1,000% a Marxist organization. That, sir, is a factoid.

And BLM is a scam. Their leader just bought a $6 million dollar house with the donations they fooled people into giving them.

 

[kuhlkat]

Again I say, Cal continues to get crucified for something that happened 2 years ago. Stoops might have gotten a little grief at the time it happened but he no longer continues to get it like Cal does. All the posts prove that regardless of forum.

As I said before, I don’t support the BLM group. I support the movement. There is a big difference. If the executives Of BLM took the donations(and it looks like some did), then they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It’s a pretty simple concept. That isn’t the subject at hand though. The subject at hand is what this entire thread is about and that’s Keion Brooks. I simply responded to a ridiculous post that stated Brooks wasn’t a good representative of the University simply because he dare have a different view about kneeling than many members of the fan base.

Stoops would be given more grief but his teams are overachieving unlike Cal's teams. Plus this is a basketball forum. And fans are more passionate and expect greatness.

 

[Wunky]

when he is on the court, he plays with heart and passion which is allAnyone can ask for.

Man, the definition of heart and passion sure has changed. How many times did Brooks stand there watching his shot and let an opposing player outhustle him for the rebound this year?

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

I haven't looked in that thread, and I don't have any "Cal slurpen brethren".

The problem is, though, aside from 2-3 mouthy Cal "slurpers", most of the ****** talk on this forum has been from the Cal haters.

Absolutely FALSE. ANYONE who even murmurs a concern about Cal gets swarmed by the Cal Brigade who calls them names like 'haters' and ridicules them and calls them fake fans, and then whines to the mods and tries to get them banned. This creates so much hostility that it entrenches the distaste for Cal in these same people and battle lines are drawn. This is how it started and this is how it continues. You're pushing LIES.

Look at how you put quotes around one term but leave the other term unquoted.

You're so transparent it's comical. You're a fraud.

 

[sk73]

Again, based on his near total lack of improvement and soft body that never got stronger, still not going along with this "he practiced hard" storyline.

His mediocre play aside...

Players who are "representing UK well" don't call for the Arena named after that school's legendary beloved coach to be renamed when you ADMIT to not knowing **** about him.

They also don't represent UK well when they kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bunch of Marxist BS.

If that is the way you measure a players worth then you were obviously, not a fan of any of our players. They all took a knee.

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

If that is the way you measure a players worth then you were obviously, not a fan of any of our players. They all took a knee.

Not being a fan of a particular player is a meaningless pejorative. You're not scoring any points with that one. Most players now are hired guns; mercenaries. Basically we're just rooting for uniforms.

Now, I notice that you didn't accuse him of not being a fan of our program, and that's important. A fan of the program would want what's best for the program, and the way Cal is running things at the moment, what's best for the players may not and often is not the same as what's best for the program.

Everyone needs to ask themselves what is important to them, and whether or not Cal has the program as his top priority. He's STATED that it is NOT his top priority. Some people discount that and say that his words don't mean what they say. It's up to rational people to either take his words at face value or give him the benefit of the doubt. But at the end of the day, results will be the boss of this situation.

 

[TheDude73]

Absolutely FALSE. ANYONE who even murmurs a concern about Cal gets swarmed by the Cal Brigade who calls them names like 'haters' and ridicules them and calls them fake fans, and then whines to the mods and tries to get them banned. This creates so much hostility that it entrenches the distaste for Cal in these same people and battle lines are drawn. This is how it started and this is how it continues. You're pushing LIES.

Look at how you put quotes around one term but leave the other term unquoted.

You're so transparent it's comical. You're a fraud.

You haven't been around these parts long, have ya (I already know the answer - Feb 2022 join date).

I've been posting here regularly for 16+ years. It's clear you have no idea about what kind of poster I am on this forum, given your synopsis is pretty far off (but it includes the obligatory inflammatory name calling!).

I suggest you take a look at some of my past posts and then re-evaluate your current deduction that I'm somehow faking or trying to hide my Calipari "slurping".

 

[kentuckycriedfricken]

You haven't been around these parts long, have ya (I already know the answer - Feb 2022 join date).

I've been posting here regularly for 16+ years. It's clear you have no idea about what kind of poster I am on this forum, given your synopsis is pretty far off (but it includes the obligatory inflammatory name calling!).

I suggest you take a look at some of my past posts and then re-evaluate your current deduction that I'm somehow faking or trying to hide my Calipari "slurping".

I call 'em as I see 'em. Your latest post (and other recent ones as well) has a very obvious bias. You're quick to call out the Cal critics but you let his defenders slide. You're welcome to clear that up, but I see you making no effort to do so. You don't get away with claiming to be the man in the middle here.

 

[MotorCityCat1]

It was unfortunate but it didn’t stop me from enjoying the games. It’s just ball. I was over it by the end of the day.

I’m glad it didn’t bother you. It sure did bother a lot of others, me included.

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

I’m glad it didn’t bother you. It sure did bother a lot of others, me included.

Then you and many others let politics influence areas of their lives that politics shouldn't influence. The only difference is that before the kneeling you didn't know what political beliefs the players held. Now that you know, that somehow is wrong of them? That is a problem you have to deal with not them. They don't fault you for your political opinions. You shouldn't fault them for theirs. There are different political parties for a reason.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Kinda funny how the political party of the left are somehow some kinda bastion party for the upholding of fake organizations such as BLM. Especially considering they were the political party that was PRO slavery pre Civil War. Wonder how many here actually even know that?

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Don’t know if he will go he pro or transfer.

WTF up with the avatar? Weird man.

 

[Rockfly78]

Absolutely FALSE. ANYONE who even murmurs a concern about Cal gets swarmed by the Cal Brigade who calls them names like 'haters' and ridicules them and calls them fake fans, and then whines to the mods and tries to get them banned. This creates so much hostility that it entrenches the distaste for Cal in these same people and battle lines are drawn. This is how it started and this is how it continues. You're pushing LIES.

Look at how you put quotes around one term but leave the other term unquoted.

You're so transparent it's comical. You're a fraud.

I’m trying to decide which side of the spectrum has the thinnest skin and are the bigger crybaby victims. It’s a dead heat.

 

[Rockfly78]

I’m glad it didn’t bother you. It sure did bother a lot of others, me included.

I know it did and god bless ya. I have zero expectations of athletes and celebrities outside of their duties to entertain me. I’d urge everyone to do the same. You’ll be happier I promise

 

[sk73]

Not being a fan of a particular player is a meaningless pejorative. You're not scoring any points with that one. Most players now are hired guns; mercenaries. Basically we're just rooting for uniforms.

Now, I notice that you didn't accuse him of not being a fan of our program, and that's important. A fan of the program would want what's best for the program, and the way Cal is running things at the moment, what's best for the players may not and often is not the same as what's best for the program.

Everyone needs to ask themselves what is important to them, and whether or not Cal has the program as his top priority. He's STATED that it is NOT his top priority. Some people discount that and say that his words don't mean what they say. It's up to rational people to either take his words at face value or give him the benefit of the doubt. But at the end of the day, results will be the boss of this situation.

Again, based on his near total lack of improvement and soft body that never got stronger, still not going along with this "he practiced hard" storyline.

His mediocre play aside...

Players who are "representing UK well" don't call for the Arena named after that school's legendary beloved coach to be renamed when you ADMIT to not knowing **** about him.

They also don't represent UK well when they kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bunch of Marxist BS.

Your main emphasis in on the kneeling. Every player took a knee at the same time. Yet, you seem to focus only on Brooks, maybe because of his comments about the Rupp Arena name. Rupp died decades before Brooks was even born. You actually dismiss a player because his perspective of history doesn't align with yours?
Then you get on here and double down about how bad a player he is and how bad of a person he is. I agree with many others on this board, the kneeling doesn't bother me at all. You are the kind of guy that wants freedom of speech until you disagree with the speech. Get over it or stay miserable.

 

[MotorCityCat1]

Then you and many others let politics influence areas of their lives that politics shouldn't influence. The only difference is that before the kneeling you didn't know what political beliefs the players held. Now that you know, that somehow is wrong of them? That is a problem you have to deal with not them. They don't fault you for your political opinions. You shouldn't fault them for theirs. There are different political parties for a reason.

First of all I use to watch sports to get away from the everyday especially politics. Sorry but I think kneeling is very disrespectful. I never cared what their political beliefs were, that’s their business. these athletes cry about unity, there is so many other things they could do to try and bring people together but they choose to cause more division. so if that’s a problem for you, then you deal with it

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

First of all I use to watch sports to get away from the everyday especially politics. Sorry but I think kneeling is very disrespectful. I never cared what their political beliefs were, that’s their business. these athletes cry about unity, there is so many other things they could do to try and bring people together but they choose to cause more division. so if that’s a problem for you, then you deal with it

It's only divisive because people like you let it be. People who react like you do are the divisive ones. Why not just say I wouldn't kneel but they have every right to if they want? Instead, you take the they are a horrible person and don't represent the university well because they handled a situation differently than you did stance. People reacting like you are is what is dividing this country. So that is a you problem and one way or another, eventually, you will have to deal with it.

 

[Gus Polinski]

Then you and many others let politics influence areas of their lives that politics shouldn't influence. The only difference is that before the kneeling you didn't know what political beliefs the players held. Now that you know, that somehow is wrong of them? That is a problem you have to deal with not them. They don't fault you for your political opinions. You shouldn't fault them for theirs. There are different political parties for a reason.

I have to completely disagree with this take. They brought politics into UK basketball. They now have to deal with the fallout. CCC should have known better than to let them show their liberal views in front of a majority conservative fan-base.

 

[MotorCityCat1]

It's only divisive because people like you let it be. People who react like you do are the divisive ones. Why not just say I wouldn't kneel but they have every right to if they want? Instead, you take the they are a horrible person and don't represent the university well because they handled a situation differently than you did stance. People reacting like you are is what is dividing this country. So that is a you problem and one way or another, eventually, you will have to deal with it.

Ok I wouldn’t kneel, I wouldn’t set cities on fire, if I was in the spotlight I would try to help heal this country, not keep on dividing it. Just keep on with the movement though

 

[TCurtis75_rivals88839]

I have to completely disagree with this take. They brought politics into UK basketball. They now have to deal with the fallout. CCC should have known better than to let them show their liberal views in front of a majority conservative fan-base.

Actually, it doesn't have to be a political issue. You are making it a political issue. It could just be a human rights issue which shouldn't be liberal or conservative. Do you have the same disdain for Mark Stoops? He took his team to march in an actual protest. Have you dragged him, Vince Marrow, and the players over the coals? The football board hasn't had any of the same BS spewed about Stoops as it has Cal.

They do not need your permission on when, where, or how to express themselves. The only reason there is any fallout is because the conservatives in this fanbase hate that people view things differently than they do. You do you but you would be a lot happier if you quit griping about something that in the grand scheme of things means absolutely nothing.