Will Muschamp, anyone?
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He is a tremendous coach who has turned around Rice and now kicking *** at Tulsa. He is a no-nonsense type of coach and will get results.
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sure, he was still too young then, but you have to love that enthusiasm. and he has worked under some of the most successful college coaches, so he knows how to make it work.
i also thought gene chizik would've been good last year, but he has buried himself at iowa state.
i honestly think we need a defensive minded head coach. i think that would be our best bet for sustained success.</p>
i also thought gene chizik would've been good last year, but he has buried himself at iowa state.
i honestly think we need a defensive minded head coach. i think that would be our best bet for sustained success.</p>
I would much rather have a young defensive specialist (Muschamp is my #1 choice also). Bring in a well connected young coach like Muschamp, let him hire a young brilliant coordinator and then forget about the offense. Let Muschamp design the defense, recruit, make personnel decisions, motivate and manage the games. Then if the offense fails, you just hire another coordinator until it works. If it never works, well then that is just our lot in life. If you bring in another "offensive" HC and his offense fails, then you have to go through a whole 'nother hope/impossible situation/5 years of hell before you bring in whole 'nother staff.
Something tells me Muschamp is the kind of guy that is all Defense all the time - and dammit, if his offense isn't scoring points for his boys - time to make a change. That is what we need.
Edited to add: but if we want Muschamp, we need to move quick. He will be in the top 2 or 3 for any opening in the SEC.
Something tells me Muschamp is the kind of guy that is all Defense all the time - and dammit, if his offense isn't scoring points for his boys - time to make a change. That is what we need.
Edited to add: but if we want Muschamp, we need to move quick. He will be in the top 2 or 3 for any opening in the SEC.
....Croom has soured me on offensive minded head coaches. For once, let's let a head coach manage a game and let a coordinator run his offense. And Muschamp is my #1 choice, but I don't see us getting him since he is likely the number one choice at Auburn if there is a vacancy.
working for a monster program that is currently number 1 in the country w/ an old coach (does he have a secret Jimbo Fisher deal?) and is currently the hot coaching prospect. May want to have a plan B.
You can't tell that to some of our fans. They are convinced Muschamp, Mike Leach, Chris Peterson etc would break their neck to get to Starkville "cuz we're in the dadburned SEC!!!" It's just not gonna happen. That doesn't mean we won't be able to hire a quality coach, but we won't be getting one of the top prospects.rebelrouseri said:
Texas fans I know want him at a "midlevel" school in a BCS conference for five years so they can bring him in to replace Brown.
is the SEC Money. We are top 30 as far as coach's salaries so we could steal a big time coordinator.
i think we could get peterson, but i dont think we could get leach....sounds like a lateral move for him and i'm not so sure tech's not paying him more than we could?, but i would love to try and get him thats for sureDawgatAuburn said:
Gary Patterson at TCU. He is a solid coach.
He turned down 2 million from Minnesota last season though.
He may be waiting on the Kansas State job to open.
He turned down 2 million from Minnesota last season though.
He may be waiting on the Kansas State job to open.
it's a demotion. We will be able to talk to big time coordinators or non-BCS HC's. We might, and I stress might, get interest from a lower end BCS school such as Vandy, Baylor, Duke, etc if there was a coach we would be interested in.
Now, not so much. Why would any coach want to leave the consistent winner he's built to go to a school in a similar conference (not to debate which conference is better, let's just leave it that whichever is better isn't a whole lot better), for similar money, that has been a consistent big-time loser for 8 years now.
patdog said:
we're going to have to pony up to get a decent coach. We may be top 30 now, but we need to move into the top 20's.
Not the long term answer you are looking for. Good coach, will get the most out of his players, but would bolt the first chance he got. He has never stayed anywhere for more than three of 4 years. If you want a mercenary, he's your guy, just don't plan on building a program around him.
Not to mention I played for him in high school and he's a prick.
Not to mention I played for him in high school and he's a prick.
If he comes to MSU and does a good enough job to get the Oklahoma job in 4 years (just to throw out a random example), I'd be thrilled. It'd mean we'd be in a much better position to make a coaching hire than we've been in our history. After Tuberville used you for a stepping stone, you went 44-29 (25-23 SEC) with his successor.
As for him being a prick, that's not a negative at all. A lot of good coaches are pricks. I really don't give a **** whether people like our coach or not. Just as long as he wins games.
As for him being a prick, that's not a negative at all. A lot of good coaches are pricks. I really don't give a **** whether people like our coach or not. Just as long as he wins games.
the man won at RICE. Let that sink in- RICE. Talk about academic restrictions, and I believe that they are one of if not the smallest I-A school in terms of enrollment. Plus, before him the last time that they went to a bowl was something like the the 60's. Then he takes over at Tulsa and led them to the C-USA Championship game and is now averaging 56.6 points a game and just hung 77 points on someone. Croom might not get 77 in an entire SEASON. And to anyone who says that their defense sucks, well, all he has to do is bring in someone decent and then we'll be rolling. And I agree with Patdog- if he stays here for four years and has four great seasons and moves on, that's a good thing for us. That was one of our problems with Croom- LT was looking for someone that would stay for 25 years that no one would hire away. Well, no one is going to hire him away and the only way that he would stay for that long is if LT would have stuck around.
Oh, and the fact that someone for Ole Miss thinks that he's a prick and would be a bad choice for us is probably a good sign for us. Kind of like Jackie.
Oh, and the fact that someone for Ole Miss thinks that he's a prick and would be a bad choice for us is probably a good sign for us. Kind of like Jackie.
And I did say he was a good coach. Maybe my perspective is different because I know the guy. He can win anywhere and is probably a really good recruiter because he has mastered the snake oil salesman routine kids like to hear. I just wouldn't want him to be the head guy for my football team.