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Will NCAA presidents really vote this week to allow teams like Nebraska in?

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I haven't followed the bowl saga very closely. However the linked article says,

"There is currently one back-door entry for five-win teams -- if they are among the top five teams in the country in the latest NCAA APR (Academic Progress Report) rankings. But it is understood that those top five teams are already bowl eligible.​

So there will likely be a request as early as this week from the Football Oversight Committee, passed on to the NCAA, asking for a waiver to let other five-win teams into the bowl pool. The final decision will be made by the NCAA Council and/or NCAA Presidents."
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So may we still get left out?

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2015/11/bowl_controversy_looms_with_ta.html
 
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Tulsa Tom_rivals17485

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jteten said:
If we get left out, nobody will complain. If we get the call, great. I am perfectly fine with being able to watch one more Husker game this season.
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I would like to see one more game too. However, I never thought I would see the day when college athletics would be letting 5-7 teams to go bowling. It's a little "participation ribbon-esque" to me.
 
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They should have thought of this before they approved 40 bowl games. What did they think was going to happen? Did no one do any math? I would have no problem if you cancelled those games, but then you have a lot of bands, cheerleaders and other groups who probably raised money and booked travel for a game that will no longer exist. Is it right to punish them for the NCAA's errors? Do bowls go bankrupt because they leased stadiums, tents, food, etc. and now they can't pay for it all? I would be surprised if they were cancelled.
 
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I don't get what that has to do with us. We fall into the first category-i.e teams in the top 5 APR. As the article says, it is already understood that those top 5 teams are already bowl eligible. So what does the NCAA vote to allow other 5 win teams into the discussion have to do with us?
 
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From the NCAA website:


NCAA Football: Council approves process to allow 5-7 teams into bowl games
Greg Johnson | NCAA.com
Last Updated - Dec 1, 2015 11:25 EST
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The NCAA Division I Council on Monday approved a one-time process in which the Division I Football Oversight Committee will identify 5-7 teams with the highest Academic Progress Rates to bring the total of eligible bowl teams to 80 or 81. The multi-year APR scores used will be from the 2013-14 academic year, the most recent year for which the scores are publicly available.

Teams that finished with five wins are needed to fill additional bowl slots this year. So far, 75 teams – five short of the 80 needed – have met the required six wins for bowl eligibility. Kansas State University, Georgia State University and the University of South Alabama could also reach their sixth victories this weekend.

If all three reach bowl eligibility, the number of bowl-eligible teams would still fall short of the 80 teams needed to fulfill all bowl games. All teams eligible for postseason play and reaching six victories will be selected.

In its discussion, the Council recognized the NCAA does not manage bowl contracts, which are agreements between bowls and conferences. Accordingly, the Division I Football Oversight Committee will not be involved in the process of selecting teams to bowl games but will create a pool of teams that are eligible to be selected by bowls looking for teams.

Implemented in 2003 as part of an ambitious academic reform effort in Division I, the NCAA Academic Progress Rate holds schools accountable for the academic progress of their college athletes through a team-based report card that accounts for the eligibility and retention of each student-athlete for each academic term.

The current Academic Progress Rate scores for teams with five wins are:

• Nebraska (985)

• Kansas State (976)

• Missouri (976)

• Minnesota (975)

• San Jose State (975)

• Illinois (973)

• Rice (973)

The Football Oversight Committee is planning to form a task force in January to study bowl eligibility in the future.
 
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You guys who are happy that we,are going bowling should know that it was because of Pelini making sure that his players stayed in class and graduated at a,very high rate which put us in this position to play one more game.
 
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Well, we would surely be the best choice out of that list of top 5 win teams. But regional considerations MIGHT still keep us out when bowls are picking.
 
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Husker Hunyock said:
You guys who are happy that we,are going bowling should know that it was because of Pelini making sure that his players stayed in class and graduated at a,very high rate which put us in this position to play one more game.
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Ok Grandpa, we'll go over and apologize to Mr. Pelini.
 
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Husker Hunyock said:
You guys who are happy that we,are going bowling should know that it was because of Pelini making sure that his players stayed in class and graduated at a,very high rate which put us in this position to play one more game.
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Of course... But lets not gloss over the fact that *some* of the reason why were are here in the 1st place is because of Pelini's craptastic recruiting. So he gives and he takes. Wonderful.
 
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Husker Hunyock said:
You guys who are happy that we,are going bowling should know that it was because of Pelini making sure that his players stayed in class and graduated at a,very high rate which put us in this position to play one more game.
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Pelini was not a bad person just not the right coach for this program and by the way the APR calculations are based on ALL student athletes not just the football players so Pelini had very little to do with the APR score...give credit where credit is due and that is to the student athletes themselves.
 
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Tulsa Tom said:
I would like to see one more game too. However, I never thought I would see the day when college athletics would be letting 5-7 teams to go bowling. It's a little "participation ribbon-esque" to me.
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we cant have a larger playoff but we can have 80 some odd teams go to a bowl....
 
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stxhusker said:
Pelini was not a bad person just not the right coach for this program and by the way the APR calculations are based on ALL student athletes not just the football players so Pelini had very little to do with the APR score...give credit where credit is due and that is to the student athletes themselves.
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actually as reported this week on PBS, It was meantioned that Pelini would continually check on his players to make sure they were going to class. He would keep on them to finish their degrees. You can keep slamming him all you want with no proof, but the players say otherwise.
On a comparison the Oregon State team this year has an APR of .946 compared to the .985 from Nebraska. Oregon State's APR is the second worst in the PAC12. That is on Riley and his coaching staff when they were at OSU. It will be interesting to see what happens to the APR and the academics of the football players now. We already had at least two players drop out this year because they were basically not going to class.
 
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Nate004 said:
Of course... But lets not gloss over the fact that *some* of the reason why were are here in the 1st place is because of Pelini's craptastic recruiting. So he gives and he takes. Wonderful.
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The Oregon State Beavers went 2-10 this year and finished last in their division. Is this because of Rileys Craptastic recruiting?
 
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I don't get what that has to do with us. We fall into the first category-i.e teams in the top 5 APR. As the article says, it is already understood that those top 5 teams are already bowl eligible. So what does the NCAA vote to allow other 5 win teams into the discussion have to do with us?
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Because the rule now is a team must have at least 6 wins. You do understand that if we went 0-12 but were in the top five APRs we wouldn't go to a bowl right?
 
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Husker Hunyock said:
The Oregon State Beavers went 2-10 this year and finished last in their division. Is this because of Rileys Craptastic recruiting?
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The argument could be made that one of the reasons Riley finally left Oregon State is because he realized it was getting even harder to recruit to Corvallis and knew his next few teams were going to be REALLY REALLY bad.
 
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Husker Hunyock said:
The Oregon State Beavers went 2-10 this year and finished last in their division. Is this because of Rileys Craptastic recruiting?
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I don't follow Oregon St's recruiting, so I couldn't say with any certainty one way or the other.
 
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HuskersMan34 said:
Because the rule now is a team must have at least 6 wins. You do understand that if we went 0-12 but were in the top five APRs we wouldn't go to a bowl right?
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What the heck does your question mean? Where in the world would you get the idea that I would think that we could get in a bowl game if we had fewer than 5 wins? Nothing I said suggested anything of the sort. If you would bother to read, this is what I was referring to:
"There is currently one back-door entry for five-win teams -- if they are among the top five teams in the country in the latest NCAA APR (Academic Progress Report) rankings. But it is understood that those top five teams are already bowl eligible.:

It clearly says right there for five-win teams. That is what I read and what I was referring to. Do not treat me like an idiot when it is your own laziness or inability to comprehend clear language that prompts you to ask a meaningless question.
 
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HuskersMan34 said:
Because the rule now is a team must have at least 6 wins. You do understand that if we went 0-12 but were in the top five APRs we wouldn't go to a bowl right?
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You do realize that this is not correct because there are more open bowl spots than teams with at least 6 wins. Right now, there are 5 open spots which will be given to the 5-7 teams that have the highest APR score which is basically the best graduation rate over a 5 year period. Huskers have the highest APR ot those teams at .985. thanks in part because of the fact that Pelini cared that his football players graduated.
 
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jteten said:
I am a Dallas Cowboys and Nebraska Cornhuskers fan. I am fresh out of ego and will take what I can get this football season. :)
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Can you do anything to get Callahan to be our offensive line coach / recruiting coordinator after he gets fired from Dallas this year.
 
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Nate004 said:
I don't follow Oregon St's recruiting, so I couldn't say with any certainty one way or the other.
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I'm just giving you back the argument that you gave me. That we had a lousy 5-7 record because Pelini could not recruit. I disagree with you assumption since he did well enough over a seven year period to win at least 9 games every season. I used this season at OSU to refute this claim since all you had were an assumption, I threw out one as well. I disagreed with the firing of Pelini only because there was no vetting process in place and Eichorst named Riley our coach days afterward. All said and done, I hope that Riley can turn things around and get us back to the upper tier for football schools. I doubt it though, but I will still root for them. If you were going to fire a coach that wins at least 9 games every year, your new guy better be a home run and Riley cannot even get on base yet. Hope we get the bowl in Santa Clara. Hope we land a dozen more great recruits, Hope we come back as a winning team next year. I just don't think it will happen. I don't blame Riley, I blame Eichorst and Perlman for this.
 
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