Will Slive suspend OM's Elston today?
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Yes.
Slive opened Pandora's Box with DDay. The cases are very similar.
1. Previously suspended
2. No flag thrown on play in question
3. Stomp of player on ground
Yes ...
This would be the second suspension for Elston. He was suspended one game by the SEC for a 'flagrant and dangerous hit' two seasons ago.
This would be the second suspension for Elston. He was suspended one game by the SEC for a 'flagrant and dangerous hit' two seasons ago.
If you suspend Day, I don't see any way that you CAN'T suspend Elston too.
Previous suspension.
Stomping a player on the ground.
The situations are very similar.
Previous suspension.
Stomping a player on the ground.
The situations are very similar.
I know the stomp didn't have anything to do with the injury, but it makes it look much worse
A second question...
Where is the Bear Internet Re-education Safety Patrol decrying this heinous act that offends the good senses of the refined???
Where is the Bear Internet Re-education Safety Patrol decrying this heinous act that offends the good senses of the refined???
They don't have to worry about lobbying for a suspension bc freeze will do the right thing (suspend himself) unlike the unChristian mullen**
Well...
He didn't suspend the guys who came off the bench and threw punches against Memphis, though there is an NCAA rule that mandates such punishment, so I wouldn't expect this.
He didn't suspend the guys who came off the bench and threw punches against Memphis, though there is an NCAA rule that mandates such punishment, so I wouldn't expect this.
Two things:
1) Yes, he was suspended in 2012, but it was for targeting, an in-game play, not an extra-curricular. Players are suspended all the time for that now. It's not typically intentional, so I don't think it compares to Day's prior suspension, which was for the exact same thing he did against LSU.
2) I did say last week that Elston is the type of player to play a bit on the dirty side. I hadn't seen it from him really since 2012 though (and I'm not talking about the play he was suspended for, which wasn't dirty, just a touch too high of a hit trying to break up a pass).
The things Elston has in his favor are: 1) He hasn't been suspended for post-play activity before. 2) It was ONE incident post-play, not 3, and I don't think it's as clearly blatant, nor as dangerous as what Day did. A 180 pound guy kicking at someone is not nearly as dangerous as a 300 pound guy bringing all his weight down on a player on the ground.
That said, I could see the SEC suspending him, but based on the scale of the Day suspension, anything more than half a game would be too much. If they do, I wouldn't have a problem with it, because like I said, I know Elston's history, so I don't doubt that he may have been deliberately making a kick, and if they believe it was deliberate, then yea, sit him for the first half against A&M.
1) Yes, he was suspended in 2012, but it was for targeting, an in-game play, not an extra-curricular. Players are suspended all the time for that now. It's not typically intentional, so I don't think it compares to Day's prior suspension, which was for the exact same thing he did against LSU.
2) I did say last week that Elston is the type of player to play a bit on the dirty side. I hadn't seen it from him really since 2012 though (and I'm not talking about the play he was suspended for, which wasn't dirty, just a touch too high of a hit trying to break up a pass).
The things Elston has in his favor are: 1) He hasn't been suspended for post-play activity before. 2) It was ONE incident post-play, not 3, and I don't think it's as clearly blatant, nor as dangerous as what Day did. A 180 pound guy kicking at someone is not nearly as dangerous as a 300 pound guy bringing all his weight down on a player on the ground.
That said, I could see the SEC suspending him, but based on the scale of the Day suspension, anything more than half a game would be too much. If they do, I wouldn't have a problem with it, because like I said, I know Elston's history, so I don't doubt that he may have been deliberately making a kick, and if they believe it was deliberate, then yea, sit him for the first half against A&M.
Another view.
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If you can't look at the videos side by side and see that they are different, that's a you problem.
Like I said, I don't doubt that Elston did it deliberately, but what he did wasn't nearly as dangerous as what Day did, and it only happened once. Kicking at the arm/football is not as dangerous as jumping with a 300 pound body and trying to make sure you land on a player that's on the ground. Both are wrong, but they're different degrees of wrong.
You're letting your fan emotions (and hate) cloud your own judgement.
If I'm the SEC, and Saban sends in the video, I suspend Elston for 1 quarter or a half, using the Day incident as a comparison.
Elston does not have a suspension on his record for post-play activity, and his incident only happened once, and it was not nearly as dangerous of an act. It was stupid, and like I said, Elston plays on the dirty side, but kicking at a guy's arm or the football isn't going to do as much damage as jumping on someone.
As an aside, I don't think the SEC does anything unless Saban sends in the video, which he may not. Day got in trouble because Miles sent in the video...in large part because both of Day's victims went out of the game immediately because of the stomps. Elston's kick didn't do any damage, nor do I think he had any way to know the Drake's leg was broken when the play was just completing.
If Saban does send in the video, I would expect a 1 quarter or 1 half suspension, and I'd be good with that. It would be deserving.
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Like I said, if they send in the video, I would expect a suspension, likely of 1 quarter or 1 half. If they went a full game, I would think that would be too much given the comparison, but I wouldn't complain.
Elston doesn't need to do stupid stuff like that, and he does have a habit of doing it (though he's never been caught before).
By the way, do you think Elston knew Drake was hurt? Watch the timing of the play and the injury and tell me honestly. Do your best to pretend it's a game between Prairie View and Alcorn, not Ole Miss and Bama, and watch the video. I know that's hard to do.
And if you were watching the game live, when did you know Drake was hurt? Did you know the minute he was rolled up, or did you not know until after everyone was clearing out?
That's funny and cute, and no one outside of the MSU fan base would agree with it, but that's what makes it cute.
And yes, I do believe Elston was trying to kick at his arm/the ball after watching again? That's an Elston problem. I didn't see it live obviously (was at the game), and I only watched the replay once, and I didn't know there was a controversy, so I only watched the play once and heard Verne make a quick reference. I also think Day did it deliberately, and the tape clearly shows it to anyone without really thick maroon glasses on. Also, the fact that it happened twice shows it, but you can be a homer about it if it makes you feel better.
Like I said, if the video gets sent in, I would expect a suspension of 1 quarter or 1 half, and that would be about right. If the video doesn't get sent in, likely no suspension coming. You still can't admit Day should've been suspended, but you'll probably call ME the homer.
It doesn't, but Elston didn't even use his 180 pounds. He just kicked, so the act itself isn't as dangerous. Like I said, suspend him for a half or a quarter based on the comparison to Day's suspension. How many of you still think Day was just an innocent victim of the SEC?
you are a 17n piece of work
you absolutely lie about defending Sowell about him trying to take out Cherrington's knee and were found to defend it.... You openly say you were glad that Robert Elliot hurt his knee... You attempt to argue that Day's actions were borderline criminal... But throwing punches in a game and openly kicking a player with his ankle destroyed is somehow ok and fully explainable.
there are no words for your homerism and your stupidity. Absolutely no words. Save your novels and reflect how 17n stupid you and your novels are when you are a proven liar and a hypocrite.
you absolutely lie about defending Sowell about him trying to take out Cherrington's knee and were found to defend it.... You openly say you were glad that Robert Elliot hurt his knee... You attempt to argue that Day's actions were borderline criminal... But throwing punches in a game and openly kicking a player with his ankle destroyed is somehow ok and fully explainable.
there are no words for your homerism and your stupidity. Absolutely no words. Save your novels and reflect how 17n stupid you and your novels are when you are a proven liar and a hypocrite.
If day was suspended a game, then Elston should be suspended a game. And yes, I am calling you a homer because multiple media outlets have said it was an intentional kick to an injured player. You were the first one over here to call out Day, yet your player does the same thing (with a previous suspension), and you fail to see it. Yes, you are 100% full of **** homer.
You might outa get back to dumpster diving looking for those syringes behind the seal complex.
You might outa get back to dumpster diving looking for those syringes behind the seal complex.
It seems like there is a disconnect in the posts here. Bruiser says Elston did it, it was wrong and if he's suspended for it, then he deserves it. Then all responses act as if he did not say the actual words he typed in.
So Bruiser, in response to your response, yes, I believe Day should have been suspended because it is obvious given the number of times and videos of the incidents that the first one was intentional and I can safely presume the second was intentional because of the previous two intentional acts.
Although after watching the video it seems clear that Elston would not know that Drake was already injured, he is still unquestionably trying to kick at him so he should be suspended.
You are a complete and utter retard. Yes, they are different. Day's can at least be argued because the guy moved under him. Elston is intentionally going out of the way to kick at the guy. That he sorta missed him doesn't let him off the hook.
You have a lot of room to talk about fan judgments. I do appreciate you taking time away from your busy schedule of accusing State players of juicing to jump in here and defend the indefensible.
Dubmass.
Is this going to be a weekly thread???
If so, you should go ahead and pin this to the top of the board. Don't y'all have a game this week against a top-2 team and Gameday among other things?
If so, you should go ahead and pin this to the top of the board. Don't y'all have a game this week against a top-2 team and Gameday among other things?