ever win 10 games again? Given the lack of importance placed on the program by current administration it could be doubtful.
Will the WVU football team ...
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They created a landscape that really tilts everything towards the Blue Bloods. WVU, VT, Maryland, Boston College, and schools on that level have seen their best days and it is a shame. The NIL put all those schools at a bigger disadvantage. I can not even get excited about football anymore. Look at the current recruiting class. Talk about unexcitable.
Simple and I and other reasonable people have stated the obvious many times before. But one more time. We are not a program that can tap into great recruits every year regardless of coach. But we can every so often get diamonds of players and everything comes together and have runs of several years of excellence. Then we will struggle for a few years. Has been that way since 1980 and it will continue. When it will start again, don't know. No one could have predicted White/Slaton/Owen years either or any other runs of excellence except maybe the Major Harris years.
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When we stop being a bunch of straight edge cucks yearning for an era that is never coming back and modernize like programs like Cincy, TCU, and other peer institutions that have seen high peaks of success lately then maybe we’ll have good seasons again.
We sit with a losing coach in the middle of our biggest stretch of futility in what, 50 years? Meanwhile Colorado says they aren’t taking this **** anymore and goes and gets Coach Prime immediately followed by the top 2 players in the class. Lean in to NIL, and new ideas or lose and be forgotten. WVU has so far chosen the latter.
We sit with a losing coach in the middle of our biggest stretch of futility in what, 50 years? Meanwhile Colorado says they aren’t taking this **** anymore and goes and gets Coach Prime immediately followed by the top 2 players in the class. Lean in to NIL, and new ideas or lose and be forgotten. WVU has so far chosen the latter.
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WVU will win 10 or more games in a season but I don't think they'll be as good relative to the rest of college football as they were in the past when they won 10 or more games.
After Texas and Oklahoma leave all WVU will have to do to have at least 14 games in a season is be the best team in their six team division or one of the two best teams in the 12 team conference. And the conference won't be that good. Considering that, 10-4 or better is doable.
Ever finishing in the Top 5 or even the Top 10 is a whole other story though.
After Texas and Oklahoma leave all WVU will have to do to have at least 14 games in a season is be the best team in their six team division or one of the two best teams in the 12 team conference. And the conference won't be that good. Considering that, 10-4 or better is doable.
Ever finishing in the Top 5 or even the Top 10 is a whole other story though.
"Modernize like programs like Cincy"! Good Lord are you a clueless whiner. Yeah need a 35,000 seat stadium down town. Oh wait...had one before...before millions were pissed away on a children's game.
Its certainly possible but it will require a good coaching staff. I don't know when or if we are ever going to have one of those. The odds are against us for sure.
An afterthought City school with a 35k seat stadium has 2 undefeated regular seasons in the last 15 years and a CFP appearance. I think we could learn a few things about what they do.
When one looks at the years when WVU was "successful" one thing was apparent - they had a team that had experienced players who had played together for 3 or 4 years. After that one great year, they struggled but improved each year until another 3-4 years came again.
Of course, this didn't apply to the White-Slayton years when they broke onto the scene as freshmen phenoms but the cycle pretty much rang true afterwards.
The biggest problem now is the NIL, transfer portal, and all the changes that has brought forth. It will be nearly impossible for 2nd tier teams like WVU to build up to that standard when top-tier teams can come and poach your best players. 2nd tier programs now act as a minor league - find rough talent, develop them, then send them up when the top-tier teams feel they are ready.
Could it happen? Of course. Will it happen? Not likely...no matter who is coaching.
Of course, this didn't apply to the White-Slayton years when they broke onto the scene as freshmen phenoms but the cycle pretty much rang true afterwards.
The biggest problem now is the NIL, transfer portal, and all the changes that has brought forth. It will be nearly impossible for 2nd tier teams like WVU to build up to that standard when top-tier teams can come and poach your best players. 2nd tier programs now act as a minor league - find rough talent, develop them, then send them up when the top-tier teams feel they are ready.
Could it happen? Of course. Will it happen? Not likely...no matter who is coaching.
Prime the A-Hole will be at Colorado two years tops. He just has to win 7 games a season. He will then get his shot at a Big 10 or SEC team. More than likely will be SEC. Doesn't matter how many great players you have doesn't mean you can coach. See Texas failures and OU last year. Alabama until Saban got there. Michigan with Rod sucked balls. TCU was 5-7 the year before and most likely slips down the pole this year. The **** goes in cycles but a great coach keeps the wheels turning and the engine well oiled.
WVU has averaged 6 to 7 wins a year in it's entire existence. Those 10 plus wins are a rarity as folding Holgs did it twice once with another coaches team and once when Big 12 was **** and still he couldn't beat the top 2. Stewart won 9 all 3 seasons. Rod Fraud won 11 for 3 straight years and used that to fill out his resume then go to Michigan and nearly destroy that program. Nehlen won 11 twice and that's when they only played 11. I think there was only 2 of the 10 win seasons before then.
There were 2 before Don Nehlen arrived. They were 1922 and 1969. The next 10 or above wast 1988 and then 1993 then Rod in 2005, 06 and 07. Folder Holger 2011, 2016.
Neal well he's just a repeat Frank Cignetti 1976-1979.
WVU 47-52 in Big 12.
WVU should be on Par with Oklahoma State every year.
Eventually, yes, because even a blind squirrel finds a nut (Pitt with Clemson down for a year while they were up) but not anytime soon. Between 5 and 7 wins for the next 5 years for sure.
I agree and therein lies the problem. Expectations have fallen so low that most will consider 8-4 and a who cares bowl game outstanding. Passing grade is good enough.
He died. They didn't start winning until Gundy. OSU didn't 10 win season until 1984 and Pa Jones only did that 3 times 1984, 1987, 1988. Didn't happen again until Mike Gundy in 2010. He has it 10+ for OSU 7 times in last 13 years.
I stand by my statement we should equal Oklahoma State and try to surpass them.
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WVU's answer is to find a different route...be known for some out of the mainstream style...recruit and coach to that to that style. For example, the Mountaineers have always fared well with a mobile qb and run first style...paired with a lb led defense.
Are you kidding me? They have done very well. Injuries wrecked their season this past year.
Is that why WVU beat them? Is only our opponents allowed to use the injury excuse? What's their excuse for their other average seasons?
WVU gets throttled by it's own fans for saying players were injured. WVU should be on par with Oklahoma State football and ahead of them in basketball.