Did I say that? I said Peoples would have tore up UNC, Indiana, and Maryland too. He was a very good back last year
Will they play Rettig?
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Did I say that? I said Peoples would have tore up UNC, Indiana, and Maryland too. He was a very good back last year
I agree. Obviously Rettig does not throw that bounce pass to receivers nearly as well as Laviano. Laviano dominates that one and maybe Flood values the bounce pass. My father is a retired basketball coach and he too really valued the bounce pass. Probably the same for Flood.
Seriously, I was looking for QB rushing yards in each game. Don't think you clearly provided that...as you imply. I'm sure it's in your #s somewhere though
Peoples averaged less than 4 yards per carry last year. We have 3 guys over 5 YPC this year.
I provided rushing stats from RBs only with the QBs numbers removed.
EDIT: Added from earlier post.
At least you should have removed the QB numbers from the results.
You would have this:
OSU 31-170 (but as I mentioned we were 15-113 after score was 49-7, we had 15-44 in 1st half)
Neb 31-95 (includes Martin 6-32 at end of game it was 25-63 before that)
Mich 25-72
Tulane was 33-165. Don't care what we did against this crap team.
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Again, Peoples main window of play before getting hurt was against the 4 best teams on our schedule.
We have already played OSU, PSU, MSU and Wisconsin and yet all of our RBs are averaging over 5 YPC. Just give up the ghost, our running game is superior this year to last.
Last year against Wisconsin our backs ran 25-87 but that includes Martin's 6-42 on the last drive to run out clock in 37-0 game. Prior to the last drive of the game last year, we had 19-45.
We had almost double that on our second drive this year.
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Obviously. Rettig has played 15 minutes so you know all his talents? You da man since you're daddy was a BB coach.
This was not an attempt to say we don't have a good running game this year as much as I didn't like anyone crapping on Peoples.
Regarding running results this year vs last year, we did run for a higher avg per rush in 2014 against some key opponents like Wisc , PSU . I'm sure better against Mich st this year.
Because I'm tired of the 0 TDs BS from our starting offense, we've watched the past couple of games, and against PSU.
I'm tired of 31 yards passing vs Wisconsin
I'm tired of opposing defenses loading the box and our offense looking helpless
I'm tired of bounce passes to our wrs
I'm tired of Grant not getting the ball as much as he should
I'm tired of missed opportunities
I'm tired of wanting to go 1-0 and going 0-1
Ultimately, I'm tired of being tired, which is why I'm clamoring for change, and I'm merely one of many.
Great line Al, "I,m tired of being tired"
I've been a fan of RU since the 50's went through this so many times, but I think this is a new low for me, or at least ties the Littlepage years for me.
This really shows how far this program has fallen. It wasn't that long ago that RutgersAl thought we were the USC of the East Coast, and now just like him, a lot of us are tired of losing, and losing in such an embarrassing way.
As I say all the time ... Give Chris the start ... If drives are 3 and out, or down by 21 then call it a day and see what Rettig can do. Our backup needs experience especially in case CL goes down. CL may be good enough to win last 3, but would an experienced Rettig give us a better chance if CL goes down.
No Laviano should be sitting down now,& for the remainder of the year.He has had his day in the sun.We now know what he has to offer,& it isn't enough
You do know that living vicariously thru 18-22 year old college student is a waste of your life energy. IT IS JUST A GAME! You male organ does not grow with every win and you do not look better to women with a win. You remain the same lost soul living thru other accomplishments. (Were you this outraged when we first joined the Big East) as it is déjà vu all over again!
as Bill 86 states above
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Pretty much this. Don't understand why Flood is hell bent on playing Laviano no matter how bad he plays. So be it. Thankfully, the end of this season and hopefully this nightmare is only three games away.
Laviano is marginal at best. Perhaps he could be a backup at a D2 school. What Flood sees in him is beyond me. I haven't heard of anyone who says he has potential to develop and become a better than average QB.
Your comments reflect anger more then sound judgment. Laviano just started as a P5 Quarter back 9 games ago and he is still progressing and learning. Rettig is so far back in the bus now and he showed Saturday when we had to call another time out cause he did not know what to call off his arm band. You have seen every thing Rittig done from the spring game on and where is he SHOWN on the Field that he disserves to start. He has not shown anything to put him equal or ahead of Laviano. Let Laviano develop and learn the position
Our 1st string offense did not score a TD against PSU, OSU, Wisc, and Michigan. This seems like unprecedented offensive futility.
I don't know how anyone can consider that progress. In game 9, Laviano is still bounching balls to our wrs, even when given time. Rettig has one more TD than Laviano in the last three games, setup by a throw I haven't seen Laviano make. Frankly, our offensive production has been pathetic, which is why I think Rettig deserves an honest shot. Sure, Rettig has work to do to get better, as he's raw, but at the very least, he gives our playmakers opportunities to make more plays, even taking into account that he might have problems getting the play in. Laviano has spent 3 years learning the position. its time for someone else.
Rettig is getting his chance See end of Michigan/OSU/Wisconsin games. what was his stats in those games. How many time outs on botched calls. Yes we see he needs development but so does our starter. So lets not waste playing time the second stringer over our starter.
Rettig's also getting maybe 20% of the snaps in practice, too. Your last statement is really the crux of the issue. Why has Laviano been anointed starter come rain or shine for this season? If he's playing like a second stringer, why are we wasting time in practice and in games playing him, rather than our other option, who by all accounts was 50/50 with him going into the start of the season?
It's doing the the same thing and expecting different results. This would be different if it were a struggling senior starter and a plucky RS Frosh people were clamoring for - these are two guys who were in a shoot out up until the last week before the season. One has clearly not produced at an adequate level - why isn't the other guy sniffing the field for any meaningful snaps, or seeing any meaningful time in practice? It really seems like pure stubbornness on the part of the staff.
On the flip side, though, this might be more on McDaniels being over his head than Laviano/Rettig. If the play call on 3rd and X is always a pass for X/2 yards, no one's going to have any success.
If you have watched the QB play by having CL run the team for 9 weeks he has pulled away from any equality they may have had at the start of the season. quite evident even in the mastery of the huddle and play calling, that Laviano is way ahead of Rettig.
Your point is valid about McDaniels he had to go against Meyer, Harbaugh and Chryst. I can say 2 out of 3 of these coaches may be the best coaches in college FB right now. And yes McDaniel is getting schooled by great DCs.
I'd hope that if you took two equal QBs and gave one 80% of the practice snaps and 100% of the game snaps, that he'd improve at a faster rate compared to the other. Unfortunately, after 9 games, it appears as though he's regressing - whether that's to do with coaching, talent, or otherwise. If Rettig had been given the same focus, I'd hope he'd be ahead.
It feels like Flood is chasing sunk costs in Laviano at this point. He can't get back the time he's put into Laviano to give it to Rettig, and he is afraid that he's put Rettig far enough behind the curve that he won't be competitive right now... so he's sticking with Laviano, because he's already invested so much in him. That's a terrible reason to stick with one option over the other.
Unless, of course, he already feels as though he'll be gone next year. If he was planning for next year, it'd make more sense to take some potential set-backs mid season this year to get Rettig on track for next year. If he is playing for this year only, without any eye toward the future, it'd make more sense that he doesn't want to risk any setbacks as Rettig gets up to speed.
Either way, he's stunting the development of his backup QB by not giving him any meaningful snaps - even in blowout situations when he could have easily seen time in the 3rd quarter, or may have provided a spark/change/whatever to get the team motivated to compete in a second half. At a certain point, the coach has to come out and take the ball away from the starting pitcher and bring in relief.
Please share what you are drinking... Laviano can't even field a snap... I'm guessing you are either related to/or Jeff Towers, Kyle Flood, or Chris Laviano