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It's clearly easy to get up for an SEC rival over Utah St. Was AU being vanilla until they HAD to win. I don't damn know. Auburn just has our damn number.
The LSU game just got real damn important (if we're gonna turn the corner).
The LSU game just got real damn important (if we're gonna turn the corner).
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Wilson's blitz packages are very basic with no imagination... That's one thing Manny did was disguise his blitzes and helped us put pressure on the QB. Hell I knew every time when we were blitzing and where we were blitzing and so did Auburn...
idiot. You put the three linebackers we had last year and McPhee out there today and it's not even close. We just weren't getting it done. It was obvious LAST week that we have had an enourmous drop off in linebacker play from last year. There isn'tas muchtalent and not even close to as much experience there. Having McPhee pretty much shutting down one end is missed in the worst way too.
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And how do you think the LSU game is going to turn out? Tak about a team having our number...ha. Hell son, the entire SECW has our number. </span>
nothing to do with developing White, KJ or McPhee? You tell me you thought last years LB's were going to the NFL and you sir would be the biggest liar on this board.<div>
</div><div>Where's the confusion? The blitz's? Its more about D playcalling than the players today dude</div>
</div><div>Where's the confusion? The blitz's? Its more about D playcalling than the players today dude</div>
Just collected a pay check I guess. Your an idiot if you can't see we don't have the talent at LB we had last year.
46 of which was to Blake when Maye got sucked up by the play action. I'd say our corners did a fairly decent job keeping trotter to 100 yards not to mention the pick six. I'm not saying Wilsom coached a great game but going into the year I knew he was no Manny and our linebackers were a weakness so I'm not flying off the handle calling people dipshits because we don't look like last years D.
For the life of me, I do not understand why a defensive coordinator can go to MSU, a school that doesn't exactly draw in every four and five star athlete in America and think that they can run some vanilla defense and win at MSU.
The fact of the matter is we have to be creative and confuse people to win. Carl Torbush and Ron Cooper were not creative. We see how that worked. Ellis Johnson was the exception- but he that is obviously because he is a really, really good coach. But look at Joe Lee Dunn- say what you want about him, but we had the number one defense in the country under him, and win the SEC West when he was in charge. He was darn good until we crapped out on JUCO players. And then look at Manny- we bring him in and win nine games in his one year.
I'm not sure why Chris Wilson went with the Torbush route and he obviously didn't pay enough attention to Manny because the gameplan was awful today.
The fact of the matter is we have to be creative and confuse people to win. Carl Torbush and Ron Cooper were not creative. We see how that worked. Ellis Johnson was the exception- but he that is obviously because he is a really, really good coach. But look at Joe Lee Dunn- say what you want about him, but we had the number one defense in the country under him, and win the SEC West when he was in charge. He was darn good until we crapped out on JUCO players. And then look at Manny- we bring him in and win nine games in his one year.
I'm not sure why Chris Wilson went with the Torbush route and he obviously didn't pay enough attention to Manny because the gameplan was awful today.
20 years...2 wins. And about 7 or 8 of those years is when LSU sucked *** (pre-Saban). I remember when we were a better program than LSU and always thinking "oh well the LSU loss probably won't hurt us in the long run". And I was right...in 1998.
Off tackle to start the 2nd half twice to get them chunks of yardage yet again. I agree though. At MSU, you better get creative and a little unconventional sometimes on defense. </p>
I just think that Wilson is a guy that just isn't cut out to be a DC. I'm sure he is a very good d-line coach, though.
that said, it would take a really good DC to hide our weaknesses. How do you hide basically your whole 17ing linebacker corps? All we really know about Wilson is he's not a very good coordinator. He still could be pretty decent.<div>
</div><div>Overall, people need to chill a little bit about this loss. We knew we had question marks at DE, LB, LT, and defensive coordinator coming into the center. I think the only thing that has turned out ok is LT, and we won't know for sure until we see how clausell does against the better defenses without a 17ing backup. All the other question marks we now know answers to, they're mediocre and worse.</div><div>
</div><div>Sucks, but it happens. We still have 5 more games we should win on the schedule. Don't think there is a chance we can hang with LSU, Bama, and Arky with our defense. I'm guessing Lattimore has a 200 yard game against us, but I think UGA is still a possible win. 6 or 7 wins will be pretty disappointing, but still is helping state build. And at least now some of the chicken littles can stop worrying about whether or not Mullen will be around long enough to build a real foundation.</div>
</div><div>Overall, people need to chill a little bit about this loss. We knew we had question marks at DE, LB, LT, and defensive coordinator coming into the center. I think the only thing that has turned out ok is LT, and we won't know for sure until we see how clausell does against the better defenses without a 17ing backup. All the other question marks we now know answers to, they're mediocre and worse.</div><div>
</div><div>Sucks, but it happens. We still have 5 more games we should win on the schedule. Don't think there is a chance we can hang with LSU, Bama, and Arky with our defense. I'm guessing Lattimore has a 200 yard game against us, but I think UGA is still a possible win. 6 or 7 wins will be pretty disappointing, but still is helping state build. And at least now some of the chicken littles can stop worrying about whether or not Mullen will be around long enough to build a real foundation.</div>
and being unconventional. Having them blitz more.
I'm not saying that we would shut everyone out if we blitzed more or that it would even make our players better, but you play to the strengths of your team, and sitting back in zone coverage is not our strength. You don't have all-world talent- and you don't to be solid on defense- and I consider being solid allowing 20 points or less on average per game, which is really very average.
Look at our 1999 defense that finished number one- Bean, Prather, Josh Morgan, Tim Nelson, Ashley Cooper, Barrin Simpson, Kevin Sluder- how did they do in the NFL? Fred Smoot was the most successful guy, and we did put some guys off of that defense such as Willie Blade, Ellis Wyms, Dorsett Davis, Alvin McKinley, and John Hilliard among others, in the NFL as well, but we were not just loaded with talent. Yes, a lot of MSU fans consider those guys to be "good players"- and they were- but we put them in position to be the most successful that they could be. If we tried to play Tampa-two with those same guys in 1999, we would have had some big time problems.
I'm not saying that we would shut everyone out if we blitzed more or that it would even make our players better, but you play to the strengths of your team, and sitting back in zone coverage is not our strength. You don't have all-world talent- and you don't to be solid on defense- and I consider being solid allowing 20 points or less on average per game, which is really very average.
Look at our 1999 defense that finished number one- Bean, Prather, Josh Morgan, Tim Nelson, Ashley Cooper, Barrin Simpson, Kevin Sluder- how did they do in the NFL? Fred Smoot was the most successful guy, and we did put some guys off of that defense such as Willie Blade, Ellis Wyms, Dorsett Davis, Alvin McKinley, and John Hilliard among others, in the NFL as well, but we were not just loaded with talent. Yes, a lot of MSU fans consider those guys to be "good players"- and they were- but we put them in position to be the most successful that they could be. If we tried to play Tampa-two with those same guys in 1999, we would have had some big time problems.
So Its more about D playcalling than the players today dude wasn't taken directly from your post?And to top it off you added this... I said it has more to do with coaching and getting players in the right position you 17n moron ...... which is saying that if Wilson had been calling the shots for those guys the result would have been what we saw today. As for ALL ofthis: "You god damn LOLing ******. I said it has more to do with coaching and getting players in the right position you 17n moron. You are one stupid son of a *****. Should've gone to school across the ditch"that's funnyas all get out. I'll add this just for fun: LOLOLOL!!!!!!!
All fun aside: the guys we have may very well get better. It's just the second start for the four who are really in question. ThoseNFLers we had last yearweren't world beaters to start with either.
All fun aside: the guys we have may very well get better. It's just the second start for the four who are really in question. ThoseNFLers we had last yearweren't world beaters to start with either.
even if he isnt cut out to be a dc, and the he is just a solid d line coach, this one is still all on him. The front four got absolutely ZERO pressure and that is including mr. all-world fletcher cox and josh boyd. Our talent at de is so far beneath sec adequate it is unbelievable. And just for the record, all these idiots on the board saying cam lawerence sucks, he was hands down our best defensive player today, he was all over the field, if the d line played with the effort he played with today, we might have slowed down the run.