Wins for the Remainder of Season?

BeantownKnight

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I like how this guy rolls and the one who responded and upped the ante.

8-9 wins doable?



I think our gameplan has worked against all of our opponents to date (except Michigan). I do not think it will work against most of the rest of the B1G -- especially since they all know what's coming. Wisconsin will stack the box, as will MSU, Iowa, etc. If our plan is to try and run the ball as much as we have, and to throw (or, should I say "rely on as few completions") as we have, we will not win those games.

I understand where Wimsatt is in his development (and why the coaching staff does not want to risk INT's) but I think there is more we can do with the passing game to keep defenses honest and to give us a better chance at winning. For example, those little out routes (on 1st downs) that you've seen the last few games. Nothing wrong with peppering more of these short-to-medium pass plays in with the run game.

I think the goal should NOT be 20 pass attempts. I think the goal could/should be more like 15-20 pass completions (regardless of how many attempts it takes to get there). That will make our run game more effective against bigger D-lines / rush defenses.
 

Knight Shift

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I think our gameplan has worked against all of our opponents to date (except Michigan). I do not think it will work against most of the rest of the B1G -- especially since they all know what's coming. Wisconsin will stack the box, as will MSU, Iowa, etc. If our plan is to try and run the ball as much as we have, and to throw (or, should I say "rely on as few completions") as we have, we will not win those games.

I understand where Wimsatt is in his development (and why the coaching staff does not want to risk INT's) but I think there is more we can do with the passing game to keep defenses honest and to give us a better chance at winning. For example, those little out routes (on 1st downs) that you've seen the last few games. Nothing wrong with peppering more of these short-to-medium pass plays in with the run game.

I think the goal should NOT be 20 pass attempts. I think the goal could/should be more like 15-20 pass completions (regardless of how many attempts it takes to get there). That will make our run game more effective against bigger D-lines / rush defenses.
15-20 completions- 60 pass attempts? (sarcasm)

I agree with you for the most part. One concerning aspect of the Wagner game (and Teel commented on this a lot) was that Wagner covered our receivers well.
 

Plum Street

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2 more get to 6-6 .
be competitive in all of the games except Penn state and Ohio state…and don’t get completely stomped by Penn state
Win the bowl game.
Continue positive trajectory. Fill NIL coffers
Everyone should be happy with this and would have signed for it in august.
 

BeantownKnight

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15-20 completions- 60 pass attempts? (sarcasm)

I agree with you for the most part. One concerning aspect of the Wagner game (and Teel commented on this a lot) was that Wagner covered our receivers well.

Yes - when I watched that game the first time - and, when I re-watched it last night, I was yelling at my tv saying, "Our receivers can't get any separation!" (except, when they did). However, I do not think the answer is to abandon (or to rely less on) the passing game. We need to have a successful passing game in order for our running game to be successful as well. I thought that was the point of the RPO that we were going to run this year, if defenses are playing up / selling out to stop the run, they're playing man on the back-end, which opens up opportunities for the passing game.

And, if Wagner is covering our receivers well, B1G defenses will cover them better. Expect a lot of Wimsatt over-throws.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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15-20 completions- 60 pass attempts? (sarcasm)

I agree with you for the most part. One concerning aspect of the Wagner game (and Teel commented on this a lot) was that Wagner covered our receivers well.
The question there is whether the receivers were covered well because of poor route running, or because the passing game is unsophisticated. I tend to believe the latter. Receivers become easy to cover when the whole field isn't used.
 
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Joey Bags

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MSU, Iowa, and Indiana are winnable. Gotta bag 2 out of 3. The rest I just don’t see as Ws with current passing game production barring the competition laying an absolute egg or us opening up the passing playbook.

We’re so strong in the run game so far this year that if we even had average passing production the amount of options would be endless.
 
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BillyC80

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We have to take care of business against MSU and Indy to get 6 wins. Then if we beat Iowa for our 7th win, we’re playing with house money and we throw the kitchen sink at Maryland to go for 8-4.
 

RUich

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MSU and Indiana should get us where we have to be. We are better than both.
Iowa could be interesting since they have already shown that offense is not a strong point,
If we keep rotating the 4 backs, we may well wear some D's down.
 

RU#1fan

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They’re all winnable. Depends on Wimsatt’s development.
This will be seen when the Coaching staff has the confidence for Gavin to pass over the middle and not just rely on the sideline out routes.
 

RU#1fan

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Beat Indiana and Sparty and we go bowling. It's that simple. Every other game on the schedule is either an automatic loss or a very unlikely win.
Wrong. Iowa and Maryland are not unlikely wins at this point.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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The ball sails on Wimsatt at times, so they have him throwing to the sideline to minimize the risk of turnovers.
It is his footwork... I think. He doesn't step into throws.. he has a BIG arm and doesn't need to.. but, I think, that makes him less accurate. It does make him better than most while throwing on the run.. not needing to get his feet set properly... but inside the pocket.. I think it make him less accurate. Weird situation... if I assess it correctly... which is not a sure thing... what do I know?

Edit rewatched his throws.. thanks TKR for doing these edits.. its not that he doesn't step into it at all.. its a tiny step forward and sometimes it looks like the step is as much out as it is forward. You step forward so the shoulder is moving towards the target while the arm throwing motion follows. Something just seems a tiny bit "off".
 
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koleszar

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MSU, Iowa, and Indiana are winnable. Gotta bag 2 out of 3. The rest I just don’t see as Ws with current passing game production barring the competition laying an absolute egg or us opening up the passing playbook.

We’re so strong in the run game so far this year that if we even had average passing production the amount of options would be endless.
I agree those three are winnable. I think our next best shot after that would be Wisconsin. They're not high flying, Mordecai mainly throws short, high percentage passes and rarely goes over the top.

High flying offense we will have trouble with. MSU tries to be high flying without the athletes to accomplish it, which is why they're constantly turning it over. Indiana is just bad. Iowa their QB and entire offense is bad, they play good defense but not as good as last year. If one kick goes to Cooper Dejuan someone fvcked up bigtime.
 
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RUBOB72

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There’s a physicality and depth element both Wisconsin and Iowa bring.
I need to be shown 1st hand on Saturday we’re good enough to deal with it.
PSU and OSU are completely elite in that department.
I thought Michigan was a good test for them against a tough , physical group. I don’t know if Wisconsin , Iowa are now that far ahead. Are they tough at home yes but sooner than later Rutgers will surprise 1 and maybe 2 of these on there turf. We are overdue.
 

RU-Kidding

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I thought Michigan was a good test for them against a tough , physical group. I don’t know if Wisconsin , Iowa are now that far ahead. Are they tough at home yes but sooner than later Rutgers will surprise 1 and maybe 2 of these on there turf. We are overdue.
Even a good program like Wisconsin is 3-12 versus Michigan, Ohio State and Penn St in their last 5 games against each. Can't wait until the divisions are eliminated.
 

Southern Gentleman

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I am so happy that y’all are discussing even the possibility of 10-2. Most years I see the moaning and groaning of trying to get to .500. I am damn happy to see the flip side of many fans getting on board.

I only wish Arkansas had a possibility of salvaging a good season.

Best wishes to my Rutgers Brethren.
 

Brisket and Bourbon

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I am so happy that y’all are discussing even the possibility of 10-2. Most years I see the moaning and groaning of trying to get to .500. I am damn happy to see the flip side of many fans getting on board.

I only wish Arkansas had a possibility of salvaging a good season.

Best wishes to my Rutgers Brethren.
Beat OM, Bama, AU, UF and Mizzou and the other cupcake and you’re there