Winston accuser's BAC was only .046. What a *****

[TheStateUofMS]

She said she had 6 shots, was probably drugged, and didn't remember anything and none of that matches the toxicology report. I'm happy for Winston. Feel sorry for Duke. He'll probably hang 60 on 'em. Also, no drugs found in her system. Whole story seems to be fabricated. But why? Was she planning to sue if you can do that? Anyway, he's not charged and the justice system worked.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Sounds like she wanted some money.

 

[tenureplan]

How long after the incident did she go to the hospital? .046 6 hours after would be about 6 shots or more.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

That's what I thought, but he'd go to jail and not play

in the NFL if he was convicted. So, I think she thought she could take advantage of the situation, but did not think it all the way thru.

I'm not sure when she went to the hospital, but they found his DNA on her, so it must have not been long after the sex occurred, unless he had **** on her panties or clothes. Can we say **** on here?

 

[BruceBruce]

They found his DNA

on her panties.

 

[The Peeper]

When it originally happened money wasn't in the picture, he was a freshman non starting qb

 

[TheStateUofMS]

No idea

 

[TheStateUofMS]

It sounds like her bf let her bang Winston

Gang bang or hey you wanna bang the FSU QB? They all sound pretty trashy except Winston. Sounds an awfully lot like the girl Kobe bent over a chair in a Denver hotel room one night.

 

[engie]

When it originally happened money wasn't in the picture, he was a freshman non starting qb

He was a starter on their baseball team -- after being a very early round baseball talent in highschool that would have gone first/second round had he not been dead set on going to college.

Money has always been imminent with Winston. Just not necessarily in football.

 

[treeddeep]

Here we go.

So a girl that's not completely trashed can't be sexually assaulted?

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Huh? She had a .046 bac. For a college student that is extremely low. Half the legal limit to be legally drunk. If he would have been convicted then we all have sexually assaulted a girl at some point.

 

[ClintonInHelen]

I'd hit it.

hitnoku

 

[The Peeper]

15th round draft pick in '12 (486th overall), incident happened in Dec 12. He batted .235 and was 1-2 as a pitcher this season. If she was after money she picked the wrong dude.............

 

[treeddeep]

You're an idiot

 

[muddawgs]

it doesn't matter

How long after the incident did she go to the hospital? .046 6 hours after would be about 6 shots or more.

they can actually take her blood and can tell you what her BAC was at the time she was "supposedly" being rape.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Exactly. There has always been a trash the accuser bent to this board that makes me uncomfortable. Not many fathers of daughters here apparently.

 

[UIUCDog]

I don’t think anyone is saying that. Apparently, though, she claimed that she was drunk/on drugs and taken advantage of, so if she wasn’t actually drunk then that goes to her credibility.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Exactly. There has always been a trash the accuser bent to this board that makes me uncomfortable. Not many fathers of daughters here apparently.

Dude her bf let Jameis bang her while he and several others were in the same room, and he wouldn't even interview with the DA, only provide a DNA sample bc he had to. Did you watch the entire press conference?

 

[engie]

15th round draft pick in '12 (486th overall), incident happened in Dec 12. He batted .235 and was 1-2 as a pitcher this season. If she was after money she picked the wrong dude.............

Yeah -- 15th round because he was unsignable. Do you think Reid Humphreys and Dakota Hudson were 35th round talents? Did you not follow Winston during recruiting at all? He was similar to Cord Sandberg and Anthony Alford -- but higher rated and more highly regarded than either one in both sports.

He would have gone first or second round had he been even the least bit signable by MLB -- and this was WELL known among the FSU fanbase -- just like Cord's baseball prowess and expected future would have been well-known had he shown up in Starkville.

http://www.perfectgame.org/players/playerprofile.aspx?ID=232586
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2011/5/2/2149603/jameis-winston-how-good-of-a-baseball-prospect
http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school...69/winston-martarano-face-difficult-decisions

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Yes a girl who isn't completely trashed can be sexually

Here we go.

So a girl that's not completely trashed can't be sexually assaulted?

assaulted. That's not what I said. Hell, I bet a sober person can be sexually assaulted. You're the idiot.

One night I was legit black out at a sorority date party, and I was basically date raped. I wouldn't have done it sober and declined it several times when she'd call me for booty calls days and weeks after it happened.

Yes, she was a fat girl. Could I have charged her?

 

[tenureplan]

Gangbanged

Winston "was excluded as the source of the DNA profile from the victim's shorts and could not be either included or excluded as a contributor to the foreign DNA profile recovered from the victim's face [based on the limited nature of the profile obtained from the victim's face]."

 

[treeddeep]

Yeah if you didn't consent you could have

 

[tenureplan]

They did

and said it was around a .09

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Oh so if someone has a girlfriend they have the right to pimp her out? Funny I thought slavery was abolished two centuries ago. Let's just say that you have the story right, what about that constitutes as not rape?

I did watch the press conference. I saw people laughing it up about a sexual assault charge. It was disgusting, as noted by almost everyone who watched it. Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing has disproven her claim. Take that misogyny to wherever C34 hangs out now. I'm sure he's ecstatic.

 

[tenureplan]

Oh so if someone has a girlfriend they have the right to pimp her out? Funny I thought slavery was abolished two centuries ago. Let's just say that you have the story right, what about that constitutes as not rape?

I did watch the press conference. I saw people laughing it up about a sexual assault charge. It was disgusting, as noted by almost everyone who watched it. Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing has disproven her claim. Take that misogyny to wherever C34 hangs out now. I'm sure he's ecstatic.

He already started a thread stating how happy he was...

 

[Crazy Cotton]

He should bend you over next time - don't think you'd make a peep.

 

[engie]

Oh so if someone has a girlfriend they have the right to pimp her out? Funny I thought slavery was abolished two centuries ago. Let's just say that you have the story right, what about that constitutes as not rape?

I did watch the press conference. I saw people laughing it up about a sexual assault charge. It was disgusting, as noted by almost everyone who watched it. Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing has disproven her claim. Take that misogyny to wherever C34 hangs out now. I'm sure he's ecstatic.

It's hilarious how hypocritical it is for you to chastise people for looking at the facts of the case and making a rational judgement -- while you are doing the exact same thing, only ignoring all known evidence, in order to go the other way with it to simply agree with an "accuser" that has no basis of facts on her side.

Nothing to disprove her claim -- other than her having a constantly changing story -- being EASILY sober enough legally to remember exact details of everything that was happening -- accusing date rape of being involved when none was found -- "forgetting" that she had also just had sex with her boyfriend -- identifying her attacker as 5'8-5'9 and "unknown" -- before identifying it as Winston weeks later who is 6'4. Need I go on?

But hey -- you stay on your high horse of assumed guilt -- while the rest of us follow facts as they are presented and believe in a legal system of presumed innocence -- ESPECIALLY when they don't even have enough to bring charges and there are MULTIPLE witnesses to this alleged crime, none of which corroborated her story. Just a grand conspiracy, I'm sure**

 

[tenureplan]

The facts haven't come out yet

They will be released tomorrow.

Her BAC at the hospital was .046 but they judged it would be "about" .01 over the legal limit at the time of the incident.

 

[fishwater99]

and said it was around a .09

.09 is drunk...

http://www.willisfraternity.com/wfdata/files/BAC_chart-male.pdf


.08% Definite impairment of muscle coordination and driving skills. Increased risk of nausea and
slurred speech.
.10% Although reaction time is affected after the first drink, there is a clear deterioration of reaction
time and control at this level.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Steubenville, OH. Maryville, MO.

I'm sure you're right. Nothing to see here. She's just a money-grubbing slut. All the guy's friends say so. Must be true.***

 

[The Peeper]

Back to the original discussion, I agree he had POTENTIAL but still didn't have money when she accused him so unless she was willing to be a groupie for a couple years waiting for his potential to come through, she wasn't after money at the time.

Now if it happened a year later (as in this month), I would have a big problem w/ her story, like Sheldon on Big Bang Theory says, "got your back Jack, bitches be crazy"

Edited to say
After a year of batting .235, 1-2 record on the mound, 33 KO's in 119 AB's, 2 of 4 SB, 15th round may be about right, we'll see if he had rookie nerves or what this year.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Well I'm not gay so....

 

[ugabully]

Oh so if someone has a girlfriend they have the right to pimp her out? Funny I thought slavery was abolished two centuries ago. Let's just say that you have the story right, what about that constitutes as not rape?

I did watch the press conference. I saw people laughing it up about a sexual assault charge. It was disgusting, as noted by almost everyone who watched it. Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing has disproven her claim. Take that misogyny to wherever C34 hangs out now. I'm sure he's ecstatic.

I think the situation is a tragedy no matter who is telling the truth. I also have a tendency to think that no one who was capable of consent wouldn't consent to sex under those conditions. But who can say for sure? I'm honestly as baffled by the "boyfriend" and his failure to look out for her than I am by what Winston is accused of or by the police department's behavior.

Nothing has disproved her claim, but, as you know, that isn't how our justice system works. The prosecution would have to be able to prove her claim beyond a reasonable doubt, and apparently they recognize that they can't do that.

It sounds like the Tallahassee Police Department realized that pretty early in the investigation, and while I think the media has been eager to frame that as an effort to protect Winston or athletes in general, I also think that's pretty unlikely. I don't think they would try to stifle the investigation of someone that they thought had clearly committed a rape that could actually be proven in court. I don't think most police officers or the institutional structure are that evil or that indifferent to justice. I think that you'd have as many or more crusaders eager to take a high profile person down as you might people eager to hush stuff up.

Do you think Winston and the young woman would have been better off if the case had actually gone to court where he could actually be found guilty or not guilty? I don't.

Maybe the women will file a civil suit for damages with a lower threshold of guilt.

WAIT: I was relying on what I read here about the boyfriend, but I'm not seeing it in the news stories that I'm reading. Where did you all get that?

 

[tenureplan]

Is it "Why is my crotch sore?" drunk?

 

[treeddeep]

But you turned out a fat chick. After that anything is up for grabs