With Perry gone & maybe Oweh as well, we've only got an 11 man roster. Do we sign 1 maybe 2 more players?

bucsrule8872

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If Oweh stays, then we don’t need anyone else. 12 scholarship players is perfect. Unless we go grab a freshman 3 star or low 4 star point guard or a lower end transfer pg who knows they won’t hardly see the court at all. Otherwise we aren’t signing anymore big time transfers
Agreed.

I think everyone is a little gun shy right now after all the injuries hit last year and how they hit the same position (PG).

I think Pope addressed this issue by getting some versatility on the roster.

PG Lowe/Aberdeen/Johnson/Chandler
SG Oweh/Chandler/Aberdeen/Johnson/Williams/Lowe
SF Aberdeen/Williams/Chandler/Oweh/Johnson/Noah
PF Dioubate/Jelavic/Garrison/Quaintance/Noah/Williams
C Garrison/Quaintance/Moreno/Jelavic

No one is ever injury proof, but having this many players that can play different positions should help tremendously.
 

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Agreed.

I think everyone is a little gun shy right now after all the injuries hit last year and how they hit the same position (PG).

I think Pope addressed this issue by getting some versatility on the roster.

PG Lowe/Aberdeen/Johnson/Chandler
SG Oweh/Chandler/Aberdeen/Johnson/Williams/Lowe
SF Aberdeen/Williams/Chandler/Oweh/Johnson/Noah
PF Dioubate/Jelavic/Garrison/Quaintance/Noah/Williams
C Garrison/Quaintance/Moreno/Jelavic

No one is ever injury proof, but having this many players that can play different positions should help tremendously.
Doubt we see Chandler at the PG position, even if it is a back up role. Lowe, Aberdeen, and Johnson is plenty depth.
 

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Our previous coach would have pushed him out the door, he would not be drafted, and playing in Singapore next year.
I've asked a few times from other posters and haven't gotten an answer. I truly don't know the answer to the question. So here goes again. Maybe you know.

What players under Cal declared early and didn't get drafted?
 

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(No offense to Iowa, it's a fine state.)
It really isn't. Kind of awful actually. I coached in a small town in north MO early in my career. People from Iowa would come to play golf in north MO during the the spring and fall because it was still winter up there. North MO ain't exactly balmy in early spring or late fall.
 

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We thought Butler, Kriisa, and Robinson would be enough last season.
Still, there are already 3 players that can play the point, no need to crowd it with 4. Besides, Robinson was not a PG. We have the SF position handled also if injuries occur.
 

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It really isn't. Kind of awful actually. I coached in a small town in north MO early in my career. People from Iowa would come to play golf in north MO during the the spring and fall because it was still winter up there. North MO ain't exactly balmy in early spring or late fall.
I traveled through there last year and I know this will surprise people but they have some big, like really, really big cornfields. Seriously, I was amazed at how big. And I was pretty sure they had really big cornfields.
 

bucsrule8872

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Still, there are already 3 players that can play the point, no need to crowd it with 4. Besides, Robinson was not a PG. We have the SF position handled also if injuries occur.
I’m talking about who can play it in a pinch. Not who will play it. Chandler won’t play the 1 unless all those guys in front of him are injured. But he can play it. He did some last season.

Also, Robinson ran the point some when Butler was out.
 
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Well, it's simple. The sky isn't falling. This is a pretty good roster on paper, good enough to be on most top 10 preseason lists. *note: roster is probably 90-100%% set, but you never know what could happen (late additions/subtractions).

Is the roster a 100% Grand Slam, mark us down for the final 4? No. It's not 1996 or the 2015 roster.
Concern#1
Chemistry. This will be the norm in the new era. However, as you can see with some portal selections, Pope and staff are trying to build some continuity by landing some players with eligibility left after this season.
Concern#2
Shooting. we only have 1 higher volume shooter that shot an above average percentage.
Concern#3
Best player on the floor? In high level games, we may not have the best player on the floor. Elite first or second team all american talent that makes the game easier for everyone. JQ on the defensive side is probably the closest we have to this. An even more improved Oweh is close though.

These are the ones that jump to my mind. I'm sure we can find others but this roster has more strengths (on paper) than concerns. The SEC doesn't look like it's going to be nearly as strong either. Also, it doesn't look like anyone has put together a SUPER team on paper (yet).

The main complaint I have about last season was the team wasn't playing it's best basketball in March. Yes, injuries contributed to that, but they weren't playing crisp, error free basketball late. I was disappointed that the team didn't step up their play, intensity, and focus in March. I still think Pope did a good job overall, but I want to see March magic. Even if you're outgunned, you still play well and make a game out of it. The UT loss was a let down because the team never made a run and played poorly. Only time will tell if Pope can make the leap from good to a great coach.
 
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If he doesn't return, one realistic possibility for Perry's scholarship could be a guard from a low mid-major who could potentially still make more $$$ at the end of the bench at UK than he would staying where he is.

Maybe find a point guard or combo guard who could fill in if there were some significant injuries, but maybe has some limitations in his game - not a great perimeter shooter or maybe is a good shooter but not quite as athletic. Here are a few examples that may fit those criteria (No idea what kind of NIL money these guys are getting or their mindset of wanting to join a championship contender vs playing more):

Proximity and/or Pope saw first hand as an opponent:
Miles Rigsby - Troy
Dezayne Mingo - Marshall
Marvel Allen - Dayton (has horrible history of injuries, so not sure about this one)
George Kimble III - EKU
Don McHenry - WKU

Playing at lower level (non P5)
Denver Anglin - Rice
Amaree Abram - La Tech (transferred to La Tech from Ole Miss, so he probably wants more playing time)
Dominick Nelson - Utah Valley
Kezz Giffa - High Point
Seth Hubbard - Toledo
 
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Can you provide links to those?
NBA Draft is one of the sites, ESPN has him at 77 undrafted, CBS has him right on the cusp of the last few spots, SI cannot remember but one of the other guys has him at last 2 or 3 spots in 2nd round. Rest was undrafted in the 70/80s range.
 

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Agreed.

I think everyone is a little gun shy right now after all the injuries hit last year and how they hit the same position (PG).

I think Pope addressed this issue by getting some versatility on the roster.

PG Lowe/Aberdeen/Johnson/Chandler
SG Oweh/Chandler/Aberdeen/Johnson/Williams/Lowe
SF Aberdeen/Williams/Chandler/Oweh/Johnson/Noah
PF Dioubate/Jelavic/Garrison/Quaintance/Noah/Williams
C Garrison/Quaintance/Moreno/Jelavic

No one is ever injury proof, but having this many players that can play different positions should help tremendously.

smells like a 'chip to me.
 

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NBA Draft is one of the sites, ESPN has him at 77 undrafted, CBS has him right on the cusp of the last few spots, SI cannot remember but one of the other guys has him at last 2 or 3 spots in 2nd round. Rest was undrafted in the 70/80s range.
See, this is why I asked for links. Draftnet (assume that’s what you meant by NBA Draft) doesn’t have him in the second. CBS only has first round mocks and lists 42 prospects. Obviously he isn’t listed. SI doesn’t list him on their mock and literally just posted an article at noon that said “all of the mock drafts that are coming out don’t have him listed”. I just don’t get the folks that go on and on about this false narrative. Without a link to an actual mock that has him listed, it’s about as accurate as a Loch Ness Monster sighting. Got any pics of those? Or just word of mouth?
 

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See, this is why I asked for links. Draftnet (assume that’s what you meant by NBA Draft) doesn’t have him in the second. CBS only has first round mocks and lists 42 prospects. Obviously he isn’t listed. SI doesn’t list him on their mock and literally just posted an article at noon that said “all of the mock drafts that are coming out don’t have him listed”. I just don’t get the folks that go on and on about this false narrative. Without a link to an actual mock that has him listed, it’s about as accurate as a Loch Ness Monster sighting. Got any pics of those? Or just word of mouth?
It is amazing that I can do a quick google search and find the info that i put out (did it today). Why should I provide you a link. Are you unable to look up information. Or are you just plain lazy. If you do not like what I post move along. It is really pathetic that posters like you go out and try to tear down someone and are just plain lazy and want proof of anything. There are about 100 people out there that do MOCK drafts. You do realize that dont you. Get on youtube, twitter, IG or any of the other forms of media. Just plain pathetic.
 

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It is amazing that I can do a quick google search and find the info that i put out (did it today). Why should I provide you a link. Are you unable to look up information. Or are you just plain lazy. If you do not like what I post move along. It is really pathetic that posters like you go out and try to tear down someone and are just plain lazy and want proof of anything. There are about 100 people out there that do MOCK drafts. You do realize that dont you. Get on youtube, twitter, IG or any of the other forms of media. Just plain pathetic.
Because YOU made the claim. And EVERYONE else knows it’s garbage. Thats why. You state vague untrue stuff, I fact check you, prove you wrong, then you want to tell me to look it up. Here’s a quick news flash, I can’t look up something that doesn’t exist. Most people understand that, which is why I asked for actual links in the first place. Now, if you’d like me to post the links to the sites you said he was on or “on the cusp of” that don’t show him anywhere I can certainly do that. I’m also happy to link the SI article that said he wasn’t listed on any mock boards as well. Now, if your neighbor Gary ran his own mock and drafted him, posted it to his Twitter, and you ran with that…different story. But there are no services that have him listed. None. Most of the ones that rank prospects through 100 have him right around the 75 range. Those are facts you could actually link, but it doesn’t exactly prove your point.
 

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See, this is why I asked for links. Draftnet (assume that’s what you meant by NBA Draft) doesn’t have him in the second. CBS only has first round mocks and lists 42 prospects. Obviously he isn’t listed. SI doesn’t list him on their mock and literally just posted an article at noon that said “all of the mock drafts that are coming out don’t have him listed”. I just don’t get the folks that go on and on about this false narrative. Without a link to an actual mock that has him listed, it’s about as accurate as a Loch Ness Monster sighting. Got any pics of those? Or just word of mouth?
I do not go to Draftnet. I hate the NBA loathe it. The CBS article that is out there is from January and has Oweh in the 2nd round very late. The other guys were on youtube discussing possibilities in the draft. There is so much out on the web that you can find what you want or not want. If you only go to one site DRAFTNET because that is what people use, do not assume everyone goes to the same place. It is not like something anyone writes out there is deleted out. I would assume the other article I saw was an op ed piece by a sports writer from earlier in the year. Lol
 

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I don't believe we get anyone else that can help us next season at least. Maybe a development guy. To many good players for 1 basketball don't see how we get another
 

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Where would Oweh go? he didnt put his name in the transfer portal. oh you think the draft? when he's not even sniffing 2nd round draft boards? 0% he would make 2.5 million as an undrafted player so stop with all of this doomer posting about Oweh.
NBA league minimum is $ 1.152 million.
 

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Because YOU made the claim. And EVERYONE else knows it’s garbage. Thats why. You state vague untrue stuff, I fact check you, prove you wrong, then you want to tell me to look it up. Here’s a quick news flash, I can’t look up something that doesn’t exist. Most people understand that, which is why I asked for actual links in the first place. Now, if you’d like me to post the links to the sites you said he was on or “on the cusp of” that don’t show him anywhere I can certainly do that. I’m also happy to link the SI article that said he wasn’t listed on any mock boards as well. Now, if your neighbor Gary ran his own mock and drafted him, posted it to his Twitter, and you ran with that…different story. But there are no services that have him listed. None. Most of the ones that rank prospects through 100 have him right around the 75 range. Those are facts you could actually link, but it doesn’t exactly prove your point.
Again go look up articles on cbS from january, That is where the CBS one was. Fact check yourself. I tell you what. I will have you on blast from here on out. Just plain pathetic that you are the fact check police for RR. Too Damn Funny. One thing for sure you want to make an enemy, I can make that happen. Yes he is on most about 77 or so. I agree 100 percent. But there are articles out there (might be old but once on the internet it is out there). How many guys did you listen to on youtube, heck look at all the UK experts out there on youtube click baiting information like big news, you see that they have 1k views of total crap. Again. Not trying to get on you but you think you are the police for posting and want people to do your work. You look hard enough and you will find someone telling you Elvis is alive, Tupac is in Vegas and so forth.
 

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I do not go to Draftnet. I hate the NBA loathe it. The CBS article that is out there is from January and has Oweh in the 2nd round very late. The other guys were on youtube discussing possibilities in the draft. There is so much out on the web that you can find what you want or not want. If you only go to one site DRAFTNET because that is what people use, do not assume everyone goes to the same place. It is not like something anyone writes out there is deleted out. I would assume the other article I saw was an op ed piece by a sports writer from earlier in the year. Lol
Jesus Christ man. YOU said it. You stated CBS. Not true. Not listed. You said “NBA Draft” was one. There is no board with that name so I just assumed you meant Draft.net. Which he’s not on either. If all of this info is so easy to find (it isn’t), then post one. Or just go on claiming garbage that isn’t true. But I can’t post a link to something (Oweh on a draft board) that doesn’t exist. It’s like proving a negative. It doesn’t work like that.
 

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Again go look up articles on cbS from january, That is where the CBS one was. Fact check yourself. I tell you what. I will have you on blast from here on out. Just plain pathetic that you are the fact check police for RR. Too Damn Funny. One thing for sure you want to make an enemy, I can make that happen. Yes he is on most about 77 or so. I agree 100 percent. But there are articles out there (might be old but once on the internet it is out there). How many guys did you listen to on youtube, heck look at all the UK experts out there on youtube click baiting information like big news, you see that they have 1k views of total crap. Again. Not trying to get on you but you think you are the police for posting and want people to do your work. You look hard enough and you will find someone telling you Elvis is alive, Tupac is in Vegas and so forth.
Can we both also agree it’s not January? Even if he was on some draft board in January, that doesn’t really seem relevant in late April.
 
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LOL. Hell while we are wishing, maybe a stretch 4 who shoots 42.3%, and a center who shoots 41.4%, a 2G who shoots 45%,,,, Oh and maybe a PG who averages 8 assist per game. I think I will run out to my college basketball player tree and see if I can pick some good ins.












Oweh is a Cat, no need to hope / wish.
I would like that point guard to be a 6'7 defensive juggernaut also, please.
 

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These people think 40% 3pt shooters grow on trees. Anyone shooting over 34% from 3 is more efficient than a guy shooting 50% from 2. So, if a person shoots better than 35%, they are pretty good.
What is the percentage of a good stretch 4? 33% ?
 

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Can we both also agree it’s not January? Even if he was on some draft board in January, that doesn’t really seem relevant in late April.
1000% but does not mean I did not check the date of the articles. It also does not mean that info is not out there on the WWW that shows Oweh as a late 2nd round pick.

My whole point was that OWEH will be back. He will only go in draft with solid first round money. We are getting on each other over agreeing (i think) that OWEH will be at KENTUCKY this year (summer on) to hopefully help us reach another final four and chance to win it all.
 

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I've asked a few times from other posters and haven't gotten an answer. I truly don't know the answer to the question. So here goes again. Maybe you know.

What players under Cal declared early and didn't get drafted?
Not a real answer, but what about the dragon?
Just anything.
As in what happened to...don't even remember his name.
 
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